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Message started by tbalam on 03/17/07 at 20:06:19

Title: Update with pics
Post by tbalam on 03/17/07 at 20:06:19

I recently did a tear down and rebuild of the savage, read cam chain, and chain conversion. I have a 96 that started out bright yellow, with 14500.

While I was in there I decided to do the plug leak fix, spark plug door mod, moved the battery back about 3-5 inches, rerouted some wiring, took off the kickstand switch and bypassed, shimmed the clutch springs. I also went up to a 155 in the carb.

Prior to this tear down I took her apart, I tinker alot, and did some body work and repainted her. I reshaped and recovered the seat, removed the pillon and sissy bar, bondo'd the holes in the fender and then painted it a color changing paint.

At this point I don't think I can get any more ponies out of her without some serious mods like Lancer and Greg are doing. so that'll have wait I just don't have the time. SHe is getting close to the look i want.

TODO: fab forward controls.
         paint cobra style racing stripes.
         change bars to drag style
         replace front running lights/blinkers
         put in a front drive speedo to comp for the chain conversion.
         New grips and controls


Thanks to everyone on the site for all of your hints, tips, suggestions, and wisdom, My scoot rocks because of it. After all of these mods she is truely custom.  ;D

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by tbalam on 03/17/07 at 20:17:37

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C03%5C17%5Cbikepics-832593-full.jpg (http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C03%5C17%5Cbikepics-832593-full.jpg)

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C03%5C17%5Cbikepics-832592-full.jpg (http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C03%5C17%5Cbikepics-832592-full.jpg)


You can see the change in color depends upon how you view it.

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C03%5C17%5Cbikepics-832590-full.jpg (http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C03%5C17%5Cbikepics-832590-full.jpg)

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C03%5C17%5Cbikepics-832588-full.jpg (http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C03%5C17%5Cbikepics-832588-full.jpg)


Here the bracket that i fabbed, you can see that it moves the battery back between 3-5 inches. I  haven't measured it. It's bolted to one of the chain guard tabs, and to the original brackets

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C03%5C17%5Cbikepics-832589-full.jpg (http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C03%5C17%5Cbikepics-832589-full.jpg)

;D ;D ;D


Thank you all again,

I'll post updates here as she comes along. I'll have more this week when I get her completely put back together.

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by Greg_650 on 03/18/07 at 05:35:14

Hey, Man...She's looking good!  

I like the Green paint, Pod filter, Battery moved, airbox removed.  Looks familiar...as they say, imitation is the best form of flattery :P

Can't you find a replacement for that breather hose?.  I used the stock hose with the K&N breather filter.  That water hose is....well, er, ah, :o

How about the ignition unit?  Got any plans for that?

I LOVE THAT CHAIN DRIVE!!!  DAMM NICE.  I gotta hurry up and do that...so that I can be like you :P

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by justin_o_guy on 03/18/07 at 07:28:08

I plan on shimming the springs when I do the cam chain. How thick did you go? Steel or aluminum? Did you make the shims or buy washers? Looks like just a thin shim will make a decent change since it would lift the spring out of that slight pocket. I am not worried about coil binding the springs. I don't see that happening.

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by tbalam on 03/18/07 at 11:00:50

I don't like that water hose either, I am picking up some other hose on monday. My oem hose was cracked and broken.  

Justin, I probable went a little extreme with the washers. I put about an 1/8" in underneath the springs with some steel washers from home depot. I took the clutch basket in and got one that were a good fit around the spring posts.

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by LANCER on 03/18/07 at 12:00:21

I really like the color shift paint.
I had not seriously considered doing the chain conversion since I have liked the belt for a long time, but in the past few days I have felt an urge ...   ::) ... we shall see how it all goes because if I keep adding things to do I won't get to ride until spring '08.   :-/

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by Bikemom28 on 03/18/07 at 20:39:13

I gotta say the bike is looking real nice I just Love the green glittery paint. That is one of a kind. :D

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by verslagen1 on 03/18/07 at 21:11:52

with all the 4 speed trans gears on ebay, can you mix and match gears from 4 speed to 5 speed to get the ratios you want?

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by Kropatchek on 03/19/07 at 08:33:01

The paintjob is auwfull. I will stick to yellow for the moment.

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by Greg_650 on 03/19/07 at 08:36:22


verslagen1 wrote:
with all the 4 speed trans gears on ebay, can you mix and match gears from 4 speed to 5 speed to get the ratios you want?


I think that someone nixed that idea in another post...I'm still wondering about swapping the primary drives though.  Seems that would work to me.


Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by verslagen1 on 03/19/07 at 08:55:59

I know they said can't put a 5 speed in a 4 speed box.
But will gears from a 4 speed fit in a 5 speed?
Pair of gears for pair of gears swap.  In other words, replace 5th speed of an s40 with the 4th speed out of a '80's ls650.
Some of these tranny's can be picked up for $10.  That and a gasket could be  ;D

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by Greg_650 on 03/19/07 at 09:55:47

Almost riding time, and you're talking about splitting cases :P

Interesting ideas for next winter, eh?

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by verslagen1 on 03/19/07 at 11:25:57

I'm in sunny Cal, the only time I don't ride is for bike maintenance and when the man upstairs decides to wash the streets.   ;D

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by Greg_650 on 03/19/07 at 14:29:10


verslagen1 wrote:
I'm in sunny Cal, the only time I don't ride is for bike maintenance and when the man upstairs decides to wash the streets.   ;D

Is that the same area as smoky brush fire Cal?

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by tbalam on 03/19/07 at 18:45:23


Kropatchek wrote:
The paintjob is auwfull. I will stick to yellow for the moment.

:'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by Greg_650 on 03/19/07 at 22:23:55


tbalam wrote:

:'( :'( :'(

Possibly a communication error?

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by Trippah on 03/21/07 at 15:58:11

Love the color, and the fact it changes shade/color :D depending on angle of viewing.  Y adone good, tbalam

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by grim on 03/22/07 at 23:53:10

Now I have to ask, what type of air filter is that, was it a fitting you had to modify, and did you have to re-jet the carbs.  I plan to re-jet anyway to get the lean mixture out and make the mix "normal" as the other posts have suggested.  I like the battery move for car b access.  

What about a shorter battery and cut the battery case in half.  Then you could get to the carbs and not have to move the battery?

Batteries for Suzuki Savage 250cc
1969-1972
6N2-2A Wet - Flooded 6 2 2.8L 1.9W 3.8H 1 $24.95




Title: Battery is moved!
Post by grim on 03/23/07 at 20:16:05

Removed the airbox(three bolts hold it on, Clymer said only two I think, and I was pulling on it for a while).  Added a little base extension for the batter mount and moved the battery back.  I am using two bolts instead of the original four.  Keeps it simple, no real hardware mods.  Now I have to find the KN filter intake... ;D :D ;)

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by tbalam on 03/23/07 at 20:24:29

Hey grim,
Sorry I was on rotation and couldn't get back to you. As you have found out you don't need to do the chain mod to move the battery. ALso the K&N is RC1250. BOlts right up you can order it from K&N directly will take about 2-3 weeks.

Title: Re: Update with pics
Post by grim on 03/23/07 at 20:43:51

Kool, thanks.  so did you end up having to re-jet?  

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