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Message started by verslagen1 on 03/12/07 at 19:46:01

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by verslagen1 on 03/12/07 at 19:46:01

I can understand a dealers reluctance.  

As hard as it is to get in there and your health on the line... you going to chance it if you got an option?  

Even in my best days pedaling, patches were 90% good. ;D

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by georgekathe on 03/12/07 at 20:04:18

I would not trust my bike, injury or even life to the possibility of a patch lifting/not sealing well.

they don't cost a fortune (not even $15?) so would always go for new tube if punctured.

(by the way, it is standard practice & goes with a couple of pieces of advice on this site to put in a new tube in when putting on a new tire - I know I do).

so, my advice - cost of tube is well worth it when set against the cost of things going potentially wrong.

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by justin_o_guy on 03/12/07 at 20:07:54

Front rire, Maybe I would.

Rear tire? I would sure rather not. As hard as that is to get in to I would think it's a bad gamble. Cost savings versus potential costs if it's a bust.

If I wrote the policy I wouldn't alow them to patch either. A failed patch at speed could cost a Bundle for the insurance company.Granted, unlikely, but why risk it?

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Max_Morley on 03/12/07 at 21:33:26

I change my own tires and always keep an extra tube in case I pinch one during installation. I think is is mostly a sound business decision to not install a patched tube. Slim chance of a problem but a nasty one from a legal stand point should the patch come loose and cause you to lose control and hurt yourself or someone else. They also the right to insist you use their tube supplier rather than one you carry in. Don't like it,  learn to do your own repairs and balance your own tires. Then you can only be mad at yourself if there is a problem. Max

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/12/07 at 22:59:01


Max_Morley wrote:
I change my own tires and always keep an extra tube in case I pinch one during installation. I think is is mostly a sound business decision to not install a patched tube. Slim chance of a problem but a nasty one from a legal stand point should the patch come loose and cause you to lose control and hurt yourself or someone else. They also the right to insist you use their tube supplier rather than one you carry in. Don't like it,  learn to do your own repairs and balance your own tires. Then you can only be mad at yourself if there is a problem. Max

Aw, come on.  You don't pinch tubes do you?

Of course, if you ever change your own tires you will at some time pinch a tube.  It's kinda like an initiation into a club.  You can pinch a tube with the tool or the rim, but usually once is all it takes.

Either let the dealer do it with a new tube or have a go at it yourself.  If you do it yourself, have a good tube patch kit handy anyway.

And if you think street tires are a challenge try some good stiff motocross knobbies with some rim locks thrown in there for grins.  That's real fun.

Hint #1...get a good set of tire tools.  Nothin' worse then bending a cheapy set.

Hint #2 anyone?

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Reelthing on 03/12/07 at 23:26:47


Greg_650 wrote:

Hint #2 anyone?

take it to the dealer

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by justin_o_guy on 03/13/07 at 03:20:55

Hint #2, Study Grampa's list of cusswords. Look in the index for those reserved for "Blue Streak Only" applications.

Hint #3 Soapy water in a spray bottle.

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/13/07 at 07:53:29


Reelthing wrote:

take it to the dealer

You must have gotten that one from the "Newbie's Guide to Motorcycling".

Look in the "Because I Can, Therefore I Do" handbook, instead ;D

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/13/07 at 07:57:41


justin_o_guy wrote:
Hint #2, Study Grampa's list of cusswords. Look in the index for those reserved for "Blue Streak Only" applications.

Hint #3 Soapy water in a spray bottle.


Personally, I think that #2 is the best tool in the box.

#3 is definitely dead on :)

#4?

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by justin_o_guy on 03/13/07 at 11:35:26

#4 Recruit an intelligent gorilla?

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/13/07 at 12:10:19


justin_o_guy wrote:
#4 Recruit an intelligent gorilla?

No!  If it isn't flat, then LET OUT THE AIR!

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by georgekathe on 03/13/07 at 13:21:22

you think changing a tire with rim locks is a pian, I recall trying to get a tire on a scooter wheel - those small tires still have thick walls & are a real pain to get on a rim, even with tire irons almost as long as your arm!

whatever - stand by my first statement - get a new tube & for sake of $25 (in my town anyway) on top of the $10-15 for the tube take it in to the dealer & let them do it - if they pinch it they'll have to put in a new tube - also they get to balance it better than most can.

that's my 3 cents worth (I'm trying to make a profit here on advice! ;D )

(& it's not because I'm not willing to try something relatively easy myself (hello little soap on rims bubbles) but think it is a pain & chance of pinching & having to buy another tube is so frustrating.)

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/13/07 at 14:41:01


georgekathe wrote:
you think changing a tire with rim locks is a pian, I recall trying to get a tire on a scooter wheel - those small tires still have thick walls & are a real pain to get on a rim, even with tire irons almost as long as your arm!

whatever - stand by my first statement - get a new tube & for sake of $25 (in my town anyway) on top of the $10-15 for the tube take it in to the dealer & let them do it - if they pinch it they'll have to put in a new tube - also they get to balance it better than most can.

that's my 3 cents worth (I'm trying to make a profit here on advice! ;D )

(& it's not because I'm not willing to try something relatively easy myself (hello little soap on rims bubbles) but think it is a pain & chance of pinching & having to buy another tube is so frustrating.)


Some of us are so used to thriving in total frustration that a tire change is relaxing :P

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/13/07 at 14:41:57

#4 - remove valve stem...

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by justin_o_guy on 03/13/07 at 19:15:45

My GO  Rilla don't need to remove no steenkeeng valve stem.

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Digger on 03/13/07 at 20:06:07

Hint #5.....

Two words: Heat Gun

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Reelthing on 03/13/07 at 22:12:50


Greg_650 wrote:

You must have gotten that one from the "Newbie's Guide to Motorcycling".

Look in the "Because I Can, Therefore I Do" handbook, instead ;D


naw take it to the dealer came from the Machines are better at that the follow on volume to Stop filling the trays and buy an ice maker

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/14/07 at 05:14:12


Reelthing wrote:


naw take it to the dealer came from the Machines are better at that the follow on volume to Stop filling the trays and buy an ice maker


Do I detect that you've forsaken the basic fundamentals of motorcycling and turned your back on traditional values?  I heard that this can happen with age, but don't worry.  There are many methods of treatment still available for you.


Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/14/07 at 05:19:27


Digger wrote:
Hint #5.....

Two words: Heat Gun


I admit that this one almost stumped me, but obviously we're playing Jeopardy now.  

What tool is used for removing kitchen flooring?


Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/14/07 at 05:22:12


justin_o_guy wrote:
My GO  Rilla don't need to remove no steenkeeng valve stem.


You're right.  Correction.

Hint #4 - Rip off valve stem.


Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Reelthing on 03/14/07 at 09:56:30


Greg_650 wrote:


Do I detect that you've forsaken the basic fundamentals of motorcycling and turned your back on traditional values?  I heard that this can happen with age, but don't worry.  There are many methods of treatment still available for you.

just tubes and gear boxes - life is to short!


Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/14/07 at 10:59:59


Reelthing wrote:

just tubes and gear boxes - life is to short!

Ah, okay.  It's not too late.  You only have selective denial.

:P

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Reelthing on 03/14/07 at 11:09:50


Greg_650 wrote:

You only have selective denial.

:P


life time motto!

Title: Re: Patch tube?
Post by Greg_650 on 03/14/07 at 20:49:21


Reelthing wrote:


life time motto!


Gotcha.  Don't we all?

;D


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