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Message started by Paladin on 03/10/07 at 17:22:16

Title: Stole a wheel/tire!
Post by Paladin on 03/10/07 at 17:22:16

http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/002304.html

Have a nearly new Cheng-Shin Hi-Max coming in from Vegas -- already mounted on a wheel. Under $40 to the door. ;D

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Post by TVR on 03/10/07 at 17:24:16

Sweet!

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Post by justin_o_guy on 03/10/07 at 18:36:00

Dude! You STOLE that!

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Post by Brewbrother on 03/10/07 at 18:37:49

very nice. ;D

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Post by justin_o_guy on 03/10/07 at 18:56:26

What does it cost to get the wheel sealed so tubeless will run on it? Does that mean ya cant tighten spokes again? I haven't seen the need yet, but with all the torque it's got to one day. Right?

Title: Re: Stole a wheel/tire!
Post by Paladin on 03/10/07 at 21:15:50

$60. Whatever they do would have to remain somewhat flexible so as to maintain a seal. The spoke, on the inside, shouldn't hardly move as you tighten the nut. Thus, I would assume that you can retighten any loose spokes.

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Post by Greg_650 on 03/10/07 at 21:33:11

Paladin wrote:

How do they seal it?

Is there any chance of damaging this seal with a tire tool when changing the tire? Need to be extra careful?

Title: Re: Stole a wheel/tire!
Post by justin_o_guy on 03/11/07 at 00:03:44

What's the company name? Where are they? spill it man, cmon, we are all waiting.. give us the scoop , people want tubeless tires on their bikes. It's so much easier to plug one & go home than remove & repair on the roadside.. What a fine deal on that wheel & tire. Man,, outrageous.

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Post by PerrydaSavage on 03/11/07 at 06:07:11

Great find Paladin!

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Post by Paladin on 03/11/07 at 13:19:21

justin_o_guy wrote:

What's the company name? Where are they? spill it man, cmon, we are all waiting....

I'm assuming you're talking about the blog entry "Was looking at getting the wheel sealed by Wheel Works...."

http://www.streetchopperweb.com/tech/0106stc_tubeless_spoke_wheels/

refers to http://www.wheel-works.com/

A year ago the wheel sealing was on their website. I can't find it now, but I called and they still do it for $60 a wheel. Since they are only 30 miles from me . . . . ;D

http://www.webbikeworld.com/triumph-tiger/ says he'll be getting his wheels done at http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/

Title: Re: Stole a wheel/tire!
Post by Paladin on 03/13/07 at 18:33:21

Update -- the wheel arrived less than 72 hours after close of auction, including Sunday! Wheel looks perfect, If I'm reading the date code right the tire is less than 2 years old.

If anyone is intersted in it, he's now selling the four-speed bottom end for $20. ebay item 270098841878. Shipping is steep.

Title: Re: Stole a wheel/tire!
Post by justin_o_guy on 03/13/07 at 18:45:21

I went & read one of those websites. When they vacuum the stickum into the cracks & seal the wheel the adjusting of the spokes is over. However, I don't see that as a reason to not do it. $60.00 to run tubeless tires it's worth it. How often do we mess with the spokes? I would say make sure the wheel is in tip top shape & seal that puppy UP..

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Post by Fido_the_Cat on 03/14/07 at 19:51:25

justin_o_guy wrote:

$60.00 to run tubeless tires it's worth it. How often do we mess with the spokes? I would say make sure the wheel is in tip top shape & seal that puppy UP..

Good question. How often should youmess with the spokes? Is there a good tool for snug them up? Looks like a good way to kill a couple of beers if you have to get each spoke.
Not joking Justin, if I had extra cash I would be looking into your suggestion.
Paladin: That's a deal for someone that doesn't even have a bike. Coolness.

Title: Re: Stole a wheel/tire!
Post by justin_o_guy on 03/14/07 at 20:18:05

Paladin posted a link to the folks who do the work. Looked to me like they were doing a great job & making sure the wheel was true & spokes tight & ohh so squeaky clean before they dripped the goo on it.

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Post by Greg_650 on 03/14/07 at 21:07:59

Fido_the_Cat wrote:

There are spoke tools if you want, but a small open end will work.

It is a good idea (perfect for beer thirty )to check the spokes every now and then. Never know. Might take a hard hit on the tire sometime.

To make a simple check, use a screwdriver and your ears. Just go around "tink, tink, tink, tink...thud"...and look for loose ones. If you only have one or two that are loose you can just snug them up till they "tinkle" too.

If you have a bunch of them that "thud" and don't have experience then take the wheel to someone to do the tightening and truing.

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Post by justin_o_guy on 03/14/07 at 21:24:34

DoooWhaaat? Since when do WE allow having no experience cause us to haul stuff tp a pro?

Grab a few pieces O 2x4 & notch the ends of 2 of them. Stick that wheel on the axle & put it in the newly built rack that has the axle level. Use a screwdriver & hold it close to the rim & give the thing a spin. Watch for the rim to move up & down or side to side. Look at the spot on the wheel that is wobbling & adjust spokes to counter the offensive wobbles. I had no experience when I started working on 10 speed wheels & I did get good at it. It's easy, unless the wheel has been damaged. These wheels are beefy enough that much of a bend will be straightened with the spokes & the spokes not be too tight. I wouldn't try that. A minor warp is one thing, a solid smack & a bent rim? Replace it. ( Naturally, if you can get it done cheap enough the whole process is a waste) Question: How many times have you hired someone to do a tedious task that they actually took pains to get it Right? I do this kind of thing myself. You can do it on the bike. Jack it up, pull the belt or not & use the swingarm for a reference. I would rather have the belt off so it will spin easier & allow me to get an idea of the "rhythm"of the wheels distortions. A mental picture of the problem before work starts is good.

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Post by Greg_650 on 03/15/07 at 08:55:35

justin_o_guy wrote:

And see? That's what I meant. You have experience. I said if you don't. You started on bicycles, not motorcycles. Same concept, big difference unless you're never going over 35. A mental picture is good, if you know what you're looking at :P After all, for a wheel to be true you have to consider wobble and concentricity.

I just don't make recommendations to do something that others might perceive as simple. Then they screw it up and blame me :(

If you are gonna do it...at least cough up $20 for a dial indicator and a base at Harbor Freight. Then at least you might look like a Pro.

Title: Re: Stole a wheel/tire!
Post by Fido_the_Cat on 03/22/07 at 21:04:17

I'm gonna need more beer.

Luckily, I'm sure that what is loose will be minimal and for that I am willing to go my own way and snugg them with a wrench. If there was any question as to the "concentricity" I would forego the learning experience and "pay the man" to get the piece of mind that it's done right. Of course it would not be the part timer who needs something to do.

Thanks for the info Guys.

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Post by verslagen1 on 03/22/07 at 21:51:45

You know that's a good idea, flip over your kids bike and get some experience. Our rear wheels will be simple compared due to the short spokes, but the front will be just like your kids bike. As the spokes get tighter, trueing the wheels gets more difficult because of the wide spacing of the cross 3 or 4 spoke pattern. Tighten one side and the other goes astray. Time and patience. Go slow. Observe what happens with every turn. For wheels with dish (off center) true them where they live. It will save you from starting over.

Have fun! ;D

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Post by Savage_Rob on 03/23/07 at 05:44:20

Dan's MC Repair Course (http://www.dansmc.com/MC_repaircourse.htm) has a lot of great info including spoke wheel truing (http://www.dansmc.com/spokewheels.htm).

Title: Re: Stole a wheel/tire!
Post by Fido_the_Cat on 03/23/07 at 18:25:58

Thanks Rob, That was one of the pages perhaps you mentioned in the past that I wanted to bookmark and get back to. Well I bookmarked it didn't I. Thanks.