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Message started by youzguyz on 02/26/07 at 04:16:55

Title: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by youzguyz on 02/26/07 at 04:16:55

Got a couple questions:
1. Does anybody have any experience with the "Flip-a-lever cruise control?
http://www.schneidersinc.com/flip_a_lever.htm

2. I am considering putting on the Küryakyn Iso grips (PN 6240)
http://www.kuryakyn.com/category.asp?bn=metric&cn=Grips
I know some of you use them.  Could somebody kindly give me the measurement from the chrome band to the throttle cable hold down?
The pictures on the Flip-a-lever site ("Off Position" and "On Position") illustrate the measurement I need.

Thanks!
Neal


Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by Greg_650 on 02/26/07 at 05:12:05


youzguyz wrote:
Got a couple questions:
1. Does anybody have any experience with the "Flip-a-lever cruise control?
http://www.schneidersinc.com/flip_a_lever.htm

2. I am considering putting on the Küryakyn Iso grips (PN 6240)
http://www.kuryakyn.com/category.asp?bn=metric&cn=Grips
I know some of you use them.  Could somebody kindly give me the measurement from the chrome band to the throttle cable hold down?
The pictures on the Flip-a-lever site ("Off Position" and "On Position") illustrate the measurement I need.

Thanks!
Neal


Vista Cruise has a similar concept

Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by youzguyz on 03/01/07 at 10:21:35


Greg_650 wrote:


Vista Cruise has a similar concept


Yah.. looked at those too.. and the option of mounting it "upside down":
http://www.rattlebars.com/mtz/invisible.html

The flip-a-lever looks less "intrusive" for lack of a better word.
Called the place, and the man says it will work ok on the Savage with stock or Iso grips.  Ordered it in.. we shall see.


Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by Greg_650 on 03/01/07 at 10:25:53

Could post the price and some pics of the Flip-a-Lever?

Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by youzguyz on 03/01/07 at 10:57:09


Greg_650 wrote:
Could post the price and some pics of the Flip-a-Lever?


Flip-A-Lever for metric cruisers and Victory $49.95 delivered in Continental US. (no extra for postage)

A bit more than a vista cruise.. which goes for about $40 online or at the stealership here.

Good pics are on the link:
http://www.schneidersinc.com/flip_a_lever.htm

Just found this as well.  Shows both of them being installed:
http://www.gadgetjq.com/throttlelock.htm


Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by youzguyz on 03/07/07 at 04:59:56

Got it, put it on.  Works very nicely.  Looks good to me!
I suggest taking a 7/16 wrench on first test ride, and find a bumpy road.  It needs to be tight enough to hold the throttle in the bumps, but loose enough to move manually while engaged.

From the front:
http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007/03/07/bikepics-822282-800.jpg

From the back:
http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007/03/07/bikepics-822279-800.jpg

Watch out for tank clearance.  Mine is ok:
http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007/03/07/bikepics-822280-800.jpg


Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by franch on 03/07/07 at 07:13:24

so,
in your pics is the throttle locked or unlocked ?
how convenient/ ergonamic is this thing ?
is it a long reach for your thumb ?
i think i would like this better than the "palm" type

Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by Greg_650 on 03/07/07 at 07:54:00


franch wrote:
so,
in your pics is the throttle locked or unlocked ?
how convenient/ ergonamic is this thing ?
is it a long reach for your thumb ?
i think i would like this better than the "palm" type


You might like it, if what you mean by "palm style" is the Throttle Rocker.

This one and the Vista Cruise allow you to take your hand off completely.


Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by Greg_650 on 03/07/07 at 08:03:34


youzguyz wrote:


The flip-a-lever looks less "intrusive" for lack of a better word.

Intrusive is a bit "subjective", for lack of a better word :P

Neither one actually intrude on the rider, but the appearance is definitely different.  Vista Cruise has just been around for at least 15 years that I can remember.  The Flip-a-Lever is newer.

I admit that I've planned to re-engineer the intrusive looking brace on the Vista Cruise, but it was the best thing going before this "new kid on the block" arrived ;D

Are your pictures showing On or Off?

Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by youzguyz on 03/07/07 at 09:34:04


franch wrote:
so,
in your pics is the throttle locked or unlocked ?
how convenient/ ergonamic is this thing ?
is it a long reach for your thumb ?
i think i would like this better than the "palm" type


The pictures show the "unlocked" position.
Locked is a 90 degree flip to the horizontal, and you can flip it either way.
You can also change the angle, it doesn't have to be left/right.  It can be front/back or any angle.  When you adjust the "grab", you are also changing the angle.  So somewhere in 180 degrees there is going to be a place where the grab is what you need and the angle is what you like.
It is not extremely easy to reach with the right hand thumb to flip it on, but it can be done.  I usually just reach over with my left hand.   Flipping it off is easy enough with the right hand thumb or fingers.
I  have heard that the Vista-cruise has the same issue.. reaching for the lever changes the throttle setting.. but it looks easier to reach to turn it on.

Greg is right about the "palm type".  I looked at those as well.  I had an issue with that style being in the way,  and I wanted to be able to take my hand off the grip.


Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by youzguyz on 03/07/07 at 09:52:12


Greg_650 wrote:

Intrusive is a bit "subjective", for lack of a better word :P

Neither one actually intrude on the rider, but the appearance is definitely different.  Vista Cruise has just been around for at least 15 years that I can remember.  The Flip-a-Lever is newer.

I admit that I've planned to re-engineer the intrusive looking brace on the Vista Cruise, but it was the best thing going before this "new kid on the block" arrived ;D

Are your pictures showing On or Off?


You could probably re-engineer flip-a-lever as well to make less "subjectively intrusive"  :P  There is room for improvement.
Bend the mounting bracket.. or make a new one to follow the throttle housing.  Shorten the barrel, trim the handle.  I leave it to the experts.  Looks good enough as is for me for now.  .. maybe....  hmmmmm..

Title: Re: Flip-a-lever cruise control
Post by Greg_650 on 03/07/07 at 11:16:33


youzguyz wrote:


The pictures show the "unlocked" position.
Locked is a 90 degree flip to the horizontal, and you can flip it either way.
You can also change the angle, it doesn't have to be left/right.  It can be front/back or any angle.  When you adjust the "grab", you are also changing the angle.  So somewhere in 180 degrees there is going to be a place where the grab is what you need and the angle is what you like.
It is not extremely easy to reach with the right hand thumb to flip it on, but it can be done.  I usually just reach over with my left hand.   Flipping it off is easy enough with the right hand thumb or fingers.
I  have heard that the Vista-cruise has the same issue.. reaching for the lever changes the throttle setting.. but it looks easier to reach to turn it on.

Greg is right about the "palm type".  I looked at those as well.  I had an issue with that style being in the way,  and I wanted to be able to take my hand off the grip.


Honestly, the Vista Cruise lever is very easy to reach, On or Off, with your thumb.  Not a problem at all.  The biggest drawback is the support bar that goes across the controls, and the fact that the mirror needs to be moved over a little to make room for the clamp.

On my old Yamaha, I found a way to get rid of that bar and clamp, but haven't done that on this bike.

Youzguyz is right about being able to remove your hand.  You never know when you might need to scratch or pick something :P

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/RightGrip_1261.jpg

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