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Message started by Jodicline on 02/08/07 at 23:48:31

Title: savage stretch?
Post by Jodicline on 02/08/07 at 23:48:31

hey its matt, jodi's hubby,
anyone know whats involved in a swingarm stretch with a savage?
i am considering getting a used savage and stretching it about 4" would need a longer belt for sure, but dont know where to look...
trying to get my plans together so i know what to do when i get it,
also i want to make custom forward pegs, about 1-2" and 1" wider total

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Kropatchek on 02/09/07 at 01:54:23

Don't know excactly what is involved. One thing for sure: there's NO longer belt available. You have to convert to chaindrive.
Site with some ideas, in German though, but clicking on the gallerys and pictures will give you some thing to think over.

http://www.savage-extrem.de/index2.html

Greetz
Kropatchek ;D

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 05:39:36

Yeah.  Those are some really cool photos.  I could spend a whole day looking through those.

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Jodicline on 02/09/07 at 10:59:18

so there isnt anyway to find a belt that will work? does anyone know who makes the savage belt? and how to ask them if they make a longer one?

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 11:04:56

It is a Bando, I think.  63 or 66 teeth.  I can't remember which.

The guy on this site did it with an industrial belt...

http://www.savage-extrem.de/index2.html

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Reelthing on 02/09/07 at 11:13:31

and man with swingarm on this one you could do the hitch and pull a truck
http://www.savage-extrem.de/jogi/Jogi_neu01big.jpg

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 11:18:30

Yeah, I'm still surfin' around those pics.  Is that bike a hoot or what?

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 11:20:47

Think I'll go out to the garage and do this mod...

http://www.hannelore-klein.de/ext/streetcat/sc3.jpg

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Reelthing on 02/09/07 at 11:23:24

dang - what kind of stuff do these guys have hanging around the house!

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 11:30:06

Best I can tell they fab this stuff.  Mostly stainless.

One thing's for sure, they got some of the world's heaviest Savages...

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 11:34:54

This one's a chain drive...

http://www.hannelore-klein.de/ext/streetcat/sc4.jpg

They sure do have some ugly tags...

http://www.hannelore-klein.de/ext/streetcat/sc7.jpg

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 11:45:27


Reelthing wrote:
and man with swingarm on this one you could do the hitch and pull a truck
http://www.savage-extrem.de/jogi/Jogi_neu01big.jpg


That one runs on alcohol 8)

http://www.hannelore-klein.de/ext/treffen2002/01.jpg

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by vroom1776 on 02/09/07 at 13:17:32

cool stuff, but not my style.

Uh, messing with the frame, look for savage bobber dave.  he ripped off the rear swing arm and madea it a solid/ hard tail setup

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Reelthing on 02/09/07 at 13:48:37


Greg_650 wrote:


That one runs on alcohol 8)

http://www.hannelore-klein.de/ext/treffen2002/01.jpg


knew there was a reason I liked that monster

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 15:07:00


vroom1776 wrote:
cool stuff, but not my style.

Uh, messing with the frame, look for savage bobber dave.  he ripped off the rear swing arm and madea it a solid/ hard tail setup


Not your style.  Okay.  How about a turbo thumper?
http://www.goldammercycle.com/hispeed/galleries/our_bikes/Trouble/25614535895.jpg_lg.jpg

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Jodicline on 02/09/07 at 15:34:37

ok yea those are nice, but i want to stay stock width and belt drive, maybe one size wider tire if itll fit, but im 6' tall i need to stretch it out if i get a savage, and i already plan on drag bars but i need somthing to get my butt back farther, i dont think i can do it more then a inch or two with just the seat,
si all im changing is the lenth of the swingarm, fender and seat, then the bars and if i can maybe a inch or two on the pegs.
so i want to keep the belt drive and shocks. just startch it out a bit.

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by vroom1776 on 02/09/07 at 15:46:44

still prefer super charging   ::)  that's teh one w/ a plated of jug, right?

like I said, cool, but too much stuff...

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by barry68v10 on 02/09/07 at 15:54:40

There IS a belt made by Bando that is identical to the stock Suzuki belt except it is 2 teeth longer.  I don't know of a belt that is 8 inches longer though.  The Savage belt is a common industrial style belt, but an uncommon width.  You could put on a bit thinner belt in the right length I would think.  
Check out:  http://www.gates.com/europe/file_display_common.cfm?thispath=Europe%2Fdocuments%5Fmodule&file=20054E2%5FIBCAT%5F01%5F06%2Epdf

Look at the Powergrip belts.

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Bugscraper on 02/09/07 at 19:44:18

I talked to Heiko Lang (on that German site) a few yrs. ago.  He fabbed the stretrched swingarm so the shocks were at a 45 degree angle (also shortened the shocks), installed a longer belt (don't remember how much longer
-- I think it was Bando), and modded the pullies for the new belt.  He emailed me schematics on the complete job; but, I lost 'em when my aol crashed.  I asked him if he would consider doing the same work for me; but, he was going away to school at the time, and couldn't.  I'd really like to have a stretched Savage, too.  You should email him; he's a nice guy, and will give you all the info. you need.  Let us know; I've still got the idea on a back burner.  

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by slavy on 02/09/07 at 20:44:17

May be the best thing will be to go to a belt and chain wear house and check there for availability. I've thought to check myself, but kept forgetting.

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by steveh on 02/10/07 at 06:40:40

If you are interested, I've got a frame from an 87 Savage that had been converted to chain drive. I'll try to get some photos posted.

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by amcline on 02/10/07 at 16:11:59


steveh wrote:
If you are interested, I've got a frame from an 87 Savage that had been converted to chain drive. I'll try to get some photos posted.

yes i would be interested, you want to sell it? location?
oh by the way this is matt jodi's hubby,(my new account SN)

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by amcline on 02/14/07 at 13:40:49

well i looked the other day at the manufacturur site, and im sure i can find these belts and in many sizes, may have to preorder a certain amount of them tho, i wonder how many poeple would care to have a longer belt, for a swingarm stetched savage?

if i have time ill look again and email them, to find out price and quantity then maybe we could post a thread and see who out there would be willing to split the cost, or pre-order one ith me...

im hoping to get the rebel sold soon and pick up a 02 savage i found so thatll be a sweet lil stretcher,

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Bugscraper on 02/16/07 at 22:34:58

I doubt you'll find enough people to participate.  Best bet would probably be to order the 1 closest to your mod specs, then mod the pullies.  Again, Heiko will probably give you the necessary info.

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by LANCER on 02/17/07 at 08:08:09


Quote:
   im 6' tall i need to stretch it out if i get a savage, and i already plan on drag bars but i need somthing to get my butt back farther, i dont think i can do it more then a inch or two with just the seat


If you want to move your seat position back why not cut the frame pieces down to just behind the top of the shock mounts.  The weld on a little bit of support for the old style seats that were just straight and flat.

http://images1.snapfish.com/349496356%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D3233753%3A78%3A%3A%3Anu0mrj

http://images1.snapfish.com/349496356%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E639%3E697%3EWSNRCG%3D3233753%3A%3C542%3Anu0mrj

This is a Corbin seat I got on ebay for $25 + shp, which was made for a 70-80 model Honda 500 of some sort.
I took it apart and reshaped the metal to fit the Savage.  The foam & gel I have for it will move the seating position slightly rearward but I am only  5'7", so it is not a crucial for me.
The point is that there are some really good seats available for very cheap prices.  It would be much easier to mod the top rear of the frame to mount a seat like this than to build a new swing arm.  Much cheaper to do as well.

Title: Re: savage stretch?
Post by Savage_Rob on 02/17/07 at 14:23:27

I wanna see it on the bike Michael.  Oh yeah, what happened to the custom tank you were sculpting?

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