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Message started by franch on 02/04/07 at 17:17:51

Title: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by franch on 02/04/07 at 17:17:51

Ok everyone, I need your best input here.
While i'm in the process of recovering the seat(s) with leather; I think i should shave off some of the top layer of foam and "splice" in some gel; particularly on the passenger seat. I did the seat lift and honestly my butt is fine but the better half suffers.
I am NOT considering a change of bikes so don't even go there.
I have looked closely at gel bicycle seat covers and think one could be integrated into the passenger seat if the foam was cut out carefull like.
Don't get me wrong, if i should add some to the drivers seat and things improved i wouldn't pregnant dog.
whats everyone think ?
and where to get the gel material ?
thanks in advance as always

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by TVR on 02/04/07 at 17:31:32

Pregnant Dog replaces beeyotch.....Thats funny

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by serowbot on 02/04/07 at 17:33:58

Since your recovering anyway, maybe you could just add a layer to the pillion without shaving.  Make more tush-cush.  
A lot of dual-purpose guys were buying those pads that are for for kneeling down on and cutting them up as inserts.  You can get them at target, home-depot, etc.  I've seen some that are kinda' hard foamy, and some that are kinda' gellish.  Shop around and see what you think.  You might consider letting the foam bend down the sides of the pillion to add a bit of width as well.
Show us the results when your done.

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by smokin_blue on 02/04/07 at 18:33:47

Since you asked....If I were you I would take a long hard look at the Sargent site and think about getting a chunk of their foam.

Here is  clip from an email I got back from them when I had inquired about raw foam stock for a seat on a custom I am building.  Their site has a lot of detail on how to mod a seat in anyway imaginable.  Cut it down, build it up , insert it..they show it all!!!!!!

Check it out a www.sargentcycle.com

From: Bill @ Sargent  
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: question on foam


Hi Paul,

We  do offer  raw Super Cell foam  in 12" x 12"  x 1.5"  increments for $19.95 plus shipping.
Check out the Case Study on the lower half of our Custom Seat Services page.  There you will see an example of how we install the Super Cell and can keep the seat the same shape.

Please call with questions.

Thanks for thinking of Sargent's.




Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by franch on 02/04/07 at 19:17:24

this i will check out.
thanks

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by Paladin on 02/05/07 at 06:11:48


franch wrote:
....I did the seat lift and honestly my butt is fine but the better half suffers.
No matter how you pad it, the pillion pad is a pad, not a seat.  *IF* I were to consider the regular carrying of a passenger I woud replace that pad with a seat -- a solo spinger seat could be made to fit.


Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by Rockin_John on 02/05/07 at 07:54:12


Paladin wrote:

No matter how you pad it, the pillion pad is a pad, not a seat.  *IF* I were to consider the regular carrying of a passenger I woud replace that pad with a seat -- a solo spinger seat could be made to fit.


There are lots of ideas to be had by searching "gel seats" or likewise on eBay.

Here's one seller's site that gives reasonable sounding advice:

http://www.knoplace.com/Gel_Pad_Installation.html

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by Jack_650 on 02/05/07 at 10:06:16

You can always get the gel seat add-on pads they make for bicycles and shape to fit. Or hit your nearest cycle bone yard and pick up a saddle seat of some sort and work with that. I put a used V-Star seat on mine (pretty easy mod) and did about 2,200 miles on it. I picked up a full saddle shaped gel pad for the 2,000 mile trip back home and wasn't really impressed with the improvement. I could have put the hundred bucks to better use I think. Spreading my weight out over a wider area helped hugely.

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by Jim_R on 02/05/07 at 10:44:03

I used a wal mart bicycle gel seat for 13.95 haha.  The vinyl I bought was 3.00 for a square yard.  It made a very big difference.  All I had to do was cut out the shape and replace it with gel.  

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by TVR on 02/05/07 at 11:34:10


Jim_R wrote:
I used a wal mart bicycle gel seat for 13.95 haha.  The vinyl I bought was 3.00 for a square yard.  It made a very big difference.  All I had to do was cut out the shape and replace it with gel.  

I'd like to see pics of that. Thats a regal idea!

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by Greg_650 on 02/05/07 at 13:13:19

Another option would be to buy the other half her own bike 8)

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by TVR on 02/06/07 at 05:46:31


Greg_650 wrote:
Another option would be to buy the other half her own bike 8)

Only held back by lack of interest on her part...

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by Greg_650 on 02/06/07 at 08:43:43


TVR wrote:

Only held back by lack of interest on her part...

We discussed getting a bike for 2-up riding, and I told her no way was I gonna go through the helmet banging that I'd known before...so 2 Savages = 1 Big bike...

She had experience riding quads, so she was somewhat used to the concept (helmets, weather exposure, possible injury).  A year of practice, the MSF course, and she rides as well as I do on her 2001.

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by Phelonius on 02/16/07 at 11:33:16

If you live in the Seattle area, contact Rich's upholstery and seats at about 100th and Aurora. Mighty fine saddle modifications are available there.

Phelonius

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by Greg_650 on 02/16/07 at 12:33:40

Wish that I could figure out springs for the seat that I have, but this is the front mount that I made last year.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/SeatMount_1442.jpg

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by TVR on 02/16/07 at 15:47:15


Greg_650 wrote:
Wish that I could figure out springs for the seat that I have, but this is the front mount that I made last year.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/SeatMount_1442.jpg

Creative! Doesnt look beefy enough though  :P

Title: Re: SEAT IMPROVEMENT
Post by Greg_650 on 02/17/07 at 08:20:15


TVR wrote:

Creative! Doesnt look beefy enough though  :P

It's 1/4" steel.  That's plenty enough for hauling this bull 8)

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