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Message started by Hashbrown on 01/08/07 at 07:47:04

Title: Planet of the Apes
Post by Hashbrown on 01/08/07 at 07:47:04

I have a few questions for anyone out their that has put apes or mini apes on their savage. Do i need longer cables, and if so how hard is that process? Also do i need risers? Is it hard to adjust your riding when installed? Thanks guys

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Savage Librarian on 01/08/07 at 09:39:08

It's a piece of cake to put apes on. While you don't actually HAVE to put on longer cables (depending on height of the apes), it helps. That's not a very difficult process, either. If you go that route, you'll want to talk to Lancer and get new clutch, brake, and throttle lines. The electrical will work, stock. No new risers are needed. It was probably a couple hours to do, working slowly and taking my time.

As for adjusting the ride...it felt pretty natural to me. IT took me longer to adjust to the new seat than it did the apes.

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Hashbrown on 01/08/07 at 10:10:31

Thanks buddy. Now did you get the super 16" apes or the mini 9". I was interested in the 9

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Savage Librarian on 01/08/07 at 11:17:36

I was running 15" rise, 32" width (if I remember correctly). With 9" I don't imagine you would need to change any cables.

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by steelwolf on 01/08/07 at 14:33:05

Probably not. I have 12" apes on "Thing" and the stock cables are tight.

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Hashbrown on 01/08/07 at 15:28:58

hey steelwulf. do you have any larger pics of your bike. Id like to see it with 12" apes

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by steelwolf on 01/08/07 at 16:31:13

Here you go...
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/96savage650/Apes.jpg?t=1168302550

And a bigger pic still. (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i86/96savage650/Apes.jpg?t=1168302729)

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by mickthelimey on 01/08/07 at 18:21:50

All you really need are longer arms

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by justin_o_guy on 01/08/07 at 22:22:11

With bars like that, what happens if ya need to make a quick adjustment, like someone pulls ouot & the only way you don't get bent is the quickest left turn you ever made. Can ya still do it with bars like that? I have never ridden anything like that & have no idea what it does to handling.. clue me in? I have noticed, that's not the kind of bars I see on hotrod bikes. so I am gyessin they don't handle as well, but, what's the story from someone who rides with them?

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by stinger on 01/09/07 at 02:51:42

I dont understand them! When riding for any distance, i like to kinda lean back with my buckhorns. its comfortable. I have seen many a biker with them on the interstate sitting straight up with the ape hangers at 65 plus mph. Seems like it would wear you out. But I guess there has to be something alluring to them or they wouldnt be so popular.

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by steelwolf on 01/09/07 at 03:56:09

You really don't loose much in the way of handling. Granted they are no drag bar but they still give plenty of control to make quick, safe maneuvers. Swerving is nearly always less effective in accident avoidance than braking anyhow. A swerve is essentially 3 turns. In that distance you can slow the bike enough to avoid any collision majority of the time.

Highway riding is really comfy. At least for me anyhow. The drag bar made my back hurt between my shoulder blades if I rode for any length of time. The buckhorns were fine but I like the hand position the apes give me. With the 12" apes my hands are just below my shoulders. They also keep me from slouching which my father would be very happy to hear. ;D

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Kropatchek on 01/09/07 at 04:33:15

Apes? Be carefull.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7866/asiapehanger0cu.jpg

Kropatchek ;D

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Savage Librarian on 01/09/07 at 07:35:12

I've not had any comfort or control issues either. I've been able to handle anything with the apes that I could handle with the buckhorns. And comfortwise, they're much better than I had anticipated. I can still slouch to my heart's content (and being 5'9" it's not because of my height). It really isn't an uncomfortable position, for some reason.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/palidraven/Bobber009.jpg

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Hashbrown on 01/09/07 at 07:39:42

how long are your apes Savage?

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Savage Librarian on 01/09/07 at 08:48:31

Those are 15 inchers. Here's another view of where they are in relation to the rider (keeping in mind that the seat in this pic is about an inch and a half higher than stock).

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/palidraven/Bobber015.jpg

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by WD on 01/09/07 at 21:50:26

I have 15s on mine as well. Had 13.65" with stock cables rerouted. Very tight fit.

I'll have to get a current pic as soon as I change the camera battery.

PIN the risers and bar together if you go over 6" past stock! The bar WILL move on you if you don't... Trust me, I prefer the ride and handling of 15-18 inch apes. I find most cruisers are more responsive with them versus stock bars (and you couldn't pay me enough to run drag bars).

Pinned risers:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1112724/pinnedrisers.jpg

Still kinda looks like this:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1112724/roached.jpg
-WD

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by steelwolf on 01/10/07 at 03:47:21

Hey WD! Been wondering when you would chime in. How's the job going?

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Hashbrown on 01/10/07 at 05:56:47

That's it, you guys convinced me. im going for the 15" apes. ill post if i run into any problems

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Savage Librarian on 01/10/07 at 12:25:20

Hang 'em high!

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by Hashbrown on 01/10/07 at 12:27:31

now when you say PIN the risers and bar together, do you literally mean drill a hole in the Bar and risers and screw it together? Sorry for the noob question

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by WD on 01/10/07 at 12:35:08

Exactly. Those are #6X1.5" stainless screws. And they can still shear off.

As for the job question...I'm hauling containers from the various local marine terminals. Except today, it snowed, I had the rig at home on a block heater and can't get out.
-WD

Title: Re: Planet of the Apes
Post by steelwolf on 01/10/07 at 12:59:04

Enjoy the day off my friend. For me at least they seem to be way too few and far between.