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Message started by musicdorian on 12/29/06 at 22:42:32

Title: Country of manufacture...
Post by musicdorian on 12/29/06 at 22:42:32

Does anyone know in which country, the current S40's are manufactured in?

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Post by mickthelimey on 12/29/06 at 22:56:22

JAPAN

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Post by john1652 on 12/30/06 at 06:03:37

they are manufactured by the J. A. -- PAN, Corp.

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Post by musicdorian on 12/30/06 at 11:32:31

For the rocket scientist that posted the last message...   the J.A.--Pan  message....  In case you haven't noticed, many Japanese coporporations build their products in other countries.

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Post by allan on 12/30/06 at 12:45:29

Honda goldwings I believe are built in USA  ::)

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Post by john1652 on 12/30/06 at 13:07:05

I am no rocket scientist and i don't appreciate you attitude in fact why don't we meet and i'll knock the SH** out of you jerk

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Post by georgekathe on 12/30/06 at 14:46:06

maybe you guys were just joshing (so sorry if I'm misunderstanding) & though I'd rather you just kept on @ each other & not turn your wrath on me, nor am I the dictator of what is posted on here, can I just recommend we all just watch what we type to each other?

I know from bitter (@ work years ago) experience it is very easy to bash out a message to someone & send it off only to see it in print later &/or see the response & see you have upset someone with name calling or physical threats, whether they could or are carried out.

like I said - not wishing to tell anyone what to post. :)

as far as your question, musicdorian - see what you are asking but sorry I cant shed light on topic.  :)

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Post by WD on 12/30/06 at 15:29:28

Still made in Japan, at least the one I was looking at last week was. And it was brand new on the showroom floor. And the S40 crates out back had Japanese characters stencilled on them.

-WD

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Post by DianeS. on 12/30/06 at 15:38:06

The stamp on my '2000 bike says Suzuki Canada Inc. but later on says "made in Japan".   So, unless the bikes are made locally, it looks like they are produced in Japan and sent overseas.

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Post by john1652 on 12/30/06 at 17:24:51

yes yes yes, my appologies to all. some times I am quick to revert to my old self. There were days when names brought out my fury. especially when people made judgements about me without ever knowing me. that rocket scientist comment just made me snap. I was fortunate years ago to be surrounded by good friends with cooler heads than me,they would be able to cool me off most of the time but my temper has caused me to loose my freedom so I learned my lesson but sometimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
my appologies to musicdorian,yea

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Post by YonuhAdisi on 12/30/06 at 18:05:40

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the actual parts are made in Japan and assembled in the US or where ever they are shipped to for sale.

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Post by justin_o_guy on 12/30/06 at 18:56:51

When they do that don't they get a "made in USA" sticker? Isn't that what they did with, if I remember the brand, Toyota P/Utrucks? Build the whole thing & bring it here without the bed attached & then call it "Made in USA"?

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Post by WD on 12/30/06 at 19:09:48

No, that's Harley Davidson... ::)
-WD

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Post by YonuhAdisi on 12/30/06 at 19:17:41


WD wrote:
No, that's Harley Davidson... ::)
-WD



ROFL

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Post by justin_o_guy on 12/30/06 at 19:52:13

Wooo Hoo,, Thanks,, that was good.


Hey, Musicdorian, is there a reason for wanting to know where they are made? Just curious?

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Post by verslagen1 on 12/30/06 at 21:56:13

There's a set of rules for that Made in USA label.

And I'm 100% positive it doesn't include all materials and labor originate in the USA.

Same from other countries.  I know Japanise have been buying parts from China just like everyone else.

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Post by Max_Morley on 12/30/06 at 22:00:12

I believe the Toyota PUs were marked "Assembled in the USA" in an effort to evade a stiff tariff (25% as I recollect) on foreign manufacured PU. I think the newest model Toyota PU is made in assembled in Texas as that us considered the center of PU country.  Many new vehicles will have a content sticker on them noting % of parts per country of origin. Since NAFTA, I believe many vehicles we think as USA manufactured are built in Mexico or Canada and only minimally noted on the vehicle. Also many what we used to consider imported and now locally built, including one model of Mercedes. some of you who live in the southern states can tell us which other ones. Max

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Post by WD on 12/30/06 at 23:08:24

Toyota, Mazda, BMW, Mercedes, Honda (2 and 4 wheelers), and Kawasaki all build vehicles in the USA.

The Freightliner I drove today had Hecho en Mexico on the ID plate. The White/GMC big rig I drove today was made by Volvo.

A shirt I wanted said Made in Vietnam on the label.

World market economy. But you still get what you pay for from the Japanese brands (for the most part), except Subaru...gutless junkers. The Subaru flat 4s Honda modified for the early Goldwings were good engines, wonder what happened in the interim?
-WD



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Post by musicdorian on 12/30/06 at 23:28:11

Thank you all for responding.

I have no motive for asking this question other than to satisfy my curiosity.  Today I found the "Made in Japan" printing on my bike, so it looks like you all are acurate.  

I have respect for Japanese quality control (and their products in general)  Other Asian countries make some good products as well (Taiwan makes good motor scooters, Korea makes good musical instruments, etc.)
Heck, even the US makes some good stuff !!!

Thanks again for your input (... and John, no hard feelings!)  

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Post by PerrydaSavage on 12/31/06 at 03:01:54

Someone over at Intruderalert.com posted a claim that many of the later model Suzuki's now have Chinese-manufactured engines in 'em ... he did cite the S40 & 50 models too ... he didn't clarify if by "China" he meant Taiwan or the Peoples Republic ...  ::)

Personally, I don't believe that claim either way ...

OTOH ... The Kawasaki 650KLR is now manufatured at a Kawi plant in Bangkok, Thailand according to the latest issue of Canadian Biker magazine ...

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Post by allan on 12/31/06 at 07:27:12

a few years ago dt125/dt175 were made in portugal for european market with just the engine coming from japan,
perrydasavage is right in part a lot of engines are now built in china,
take a look ay ebay.co.uk and look up m/cycles under 250 cc some strange names there but all based round older jap bike technology most seem to be Honda engines, who knows what will happen to our big single when suzuki sell of the build rights. may be a 750 or bigger.
I bought a door for my Surburban it came from tiawan ?


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Post by verslagen1 on 12/31/06 at 08:40:50

I worked for a company that imported alot of parts from Taiwan over 20 years.  The cost of assembly in Taiwan is comparable to assembly costs in Calif, which is pretty darn high.  Over the last few years, our Taiwanese manufacturing partner had open plants in China to reduce labor costs.  And many of the Japanese companies have done the same.  The difference is strict control of quality.

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Post by thumperclone on 12/31/06 at 09:12:09

yes the chineese factories are very crafty at reverse engineering..my" thumper clone" is a replica honda ct 70
most honda parts are a direct replacement ..
have heard rumors that h.d. is considering a plant in china...
mostlyly china means p.r.c. and tiawan is tiawan...

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Post by thumperclone on 12/31/06 at 09:15:44


thumperclone wrote:
yes the chineese factories are very crafty at reverse engineering..my" thumper clone" is a replica honda ct 70
most honda parts are a direct replacement ..
have heard rumors that h.d. is considering a plant in china...
mostlyly china means p.r.c. and tiawan is tiawan...
both my toyotas were asembeled in canada with japanesse parts...in this world economy we live in
quality can come from many different parts of the planet..


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Post by musicdorian on 12/31/06 at 13:24:05

Thumperclone, you mentioned your CT 70 replica,  I have a question for about who sells the best versions of these.  However, I should ask you on a different page (as this one is solely dedicated to the Savage/S70.)  Let me know where I can post this type of question.  Thanks!

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Post by musicdorian on 12/31/06 at 13:26:49

Ooopps...  I meant S40 !!   ;D

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Post by thumperclone on 01/01/07 at 08:10:16


musicdorian wrote:
Thumperclone, you mentioned your CT 70 replica,  I have a question for about who sells the best versions of these.  However, I should ask you on a different page (as this one is solely dedicated to the Savage/S70.)  Let me know where I can post this type of question.  Thanks!
p.m. sent


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Post by verslagen1 on 01/01/07 at 08:33:06

If you make something in a foreign land that requires tooling, and decide this isn't working out.  Getting the tooling from that 'associate' will be very difficult.

Reverse engineered? Hell they use the original drawings.  After all they were making the parts at one point or another.

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Post by stinger on 01/01/07 at 22:12:00

i know Kabota tractors are made in japan. they are orange. When sent to the US, they are dissassembled, painted orangee and sold as american made

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Post by geo on 01/01/07 at 22:31:18

They are made where everything is made now. CHINA!

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Post by sharon on 01/04/07 at 16:53:45

hey guys

i work for a large brake company here in kentucky and you would be surprised where some of your parts come from. our biggest customers are honda, toyota and gm. we ship brakes all over the world. alot of car parts are made in the us and right here in ky. we have companies that make brakes, glass, seats and plastics. maybe someday we'll do suzuki and yamaha. that would make me a happy girl  ;D

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Post by john1652 on 01/04/07 at 17:20:35

hey sharon do ya know where ghent ky. is perhaps?   john

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Post by sharon on 01/04/07 at 18:26:59

hey john

not sure where ghent is. we're in elizabethtown not far from louisville and lexington. lots of good riding in this area. this summer we want to head toward eastern ky, towards cumberland gap area. hubby is hopeing to see our elk in the wild  :)

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Post by john1652 on 01/04/07 at 18:32:06

across the river from cinncinnitti or how ever it's spelled

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Post by sharon on 01/04/07 at 18:41:27

i think cincy if full of yankees anyway!!!!! ;D

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Post by slavy on 01/04/07 at 20:13:52

About the sticker Suzuki of Canada- I have a guess that they mean it is designed to be sold in Canada and it goes thru their branch, like there is a 49 state model and a California model made for USA.
About a good chinese "clone"- I havent seen one yet. The parts are 1:1 like a size, but it is like comparing a 10mm wrench from 99c store with a 10mm Snap-on.


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