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Message started by firsts40 on 12/21/06 at 11:50:28

Title: Oil Leak
Post by firsts40 on 12/21/06 at 11:50:28

Maybe this has been addressed before and I didn't see it. I just went on a 300 mile round trip with the PGR on my 2006 S40, and most of it was from 65 to just over 70 MPH. When I got home, I noticed I had blown what appears to oil from the area of the Oil fill window, and around the very bottom of the other side. The ol level still seems to be OK, pretty close to 3/4 showing. It is going in the shop next week for the 3000 service. But the question I have, is this to be expected riding like I was?, or could I have a problem? It still runs quiet and with the same power as before. I noticed the small amount of what appears to be oil on my heat shield, and on the other side along the very bottom of the lower casing. ??? ???

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by justin_o_guy on 12/21/06 at 15:27:23

Only place I have ever lost oil was from where the clutch actuator goes thru the case. Haven't lost a drop since I went to 20/40.

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by steelwolf on 12/21/06 at 15:30:35

Check where the speedo cable goes in. It will leak there if it is not tight or the o-ring is bad.

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by firsts40 on 12/22/06 at 09:53:22

I seen where my oil leak is coming from, I think. It looks as if it is coming from where the shift linkage enters the lower casing. It goes in the shop in the morning for a 3000 service, and they said they would look at it. I HATE TO THINK WHAT THEY WILL CHARGE ME TO FIX THIS LEAK!! ??? :'(
When I talked to the shop, they have done me right in the past, they said it was not good to run a 650 that long at 65 to 70. ??? I don't think that would bother it that much, maybe a little oil usage, but not any serious damage. It did blow out enough oil that I do have to add some before I drive it in the morning though.
Do you guys think what I have told is correct? ???

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by firsts40 on 12/22/06 at 10:18:52

One more thing, if it is only a seal or gasket, how much problem is it changing these things. ??? I have done some work on my own bikes in the past, although I am not the most mechanically inclined person in the world. I have the tools, and I am not afraid to try it, if it will cost me an arm and a leg for a shop to do it. Also, does anyone know if this would be covered under the one year warrentee?

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by justin_o_guy on 12/22/06 at 11:30:47

It's an O-Ring. That's where mine was leaking.It stopped when I went to 20/40 oil.

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by firsts40 on 12/22/06 at 11:37:25

:) Justin_O_Guy, thanks, I hope you are right. It makes me feel a little better. I beginning to worry because I am on a very limited budget, and I was worried it would be laidmup for awhile and I would still be making payments.
Like I said, you could see where it was blowing out the oil on my belt guard. I checked tyhe oil this morning and there were no oil leaks on tyhe garage floor, but the belt guard was a mess. I checked the oil and there was none showing in the window, but it must still have enough ti lubriicate some, because coming home the other day, it was still running very quiet like a sewing machine. I am praying you are correct. :)

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by justin_o_guy on 12/22/06 at 12:29:14

OOOps scratch that. Mine leaks at the clutch actuator thru the case. Yours is where the shifter goes in.
I am sorry. I have no idea about that repair. I asked about mine while it was still under warranty. It was about 1.5 hrs I think. Again, I appologize..

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by firsts40 on 12/22/06 at 22:45:08

Well Justin_O_Guy, that's OK. I just hope it is something as simple as that on mine. I figure there is something similiar where the shift linkage goes in also. That is where it looks like it is coming from. Mine should also be under the warrentee, since I got it new in July and it has only 2800 miles on it.
I wouldn't think running it at 65 and 70 would blow out a seal though. What do I know though? ??? :(

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by justin_o_guy on 12/22/06 at 23:59:58

I was making 2 trips a week from Longview to Tyler running 70 a lot of the time. I blew no seals, I really don't know why they say not to run it 70. Owners manual tells me I can run it 100 MPH as soon as it's broken in. & I will do just that as soon as I finish all the mods/ (I hope I hope)

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by firsts40 on 12/23/06 at 05:36:49

I appreciate the confidense and info. 70 is fast enough for me on somethng as light as the S40, but I stilo don't like being left behaind if we are running 70 for 40 or 50 miles straight. I know the Thumper can do it, tyhat is why I think it may be a defective seal. Still the HD people have been very impressed with the little Thumper when I go on the PGR missions with them.
Still ??? ???

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by azjay on 12/23/06 at 05:50:50

debby rode her thumper on a 300 mile trip this last june, we rode 70mph the whole time, and into a 30mph headwind coming home. it never complained at all, 1/4 - 1/2 throttle the whole time, except pushing the headwind was closer to 3/4 throttle. her suzuki would accelerate with my Harley better than her new Harley does.

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by firsts40 on 12/23/06 at 11:30:39

Well, I heard from the shop. ;D ;D No leak found at all, think it was some road crime that I picked up.. I ran into some "stuff" a couple of times, not to mention pieces of a tire a cager blew on the road in front of us. Had a cager next to me with no where to go. The HDs were impressed with the little Thumper though. Had a sore butt when I got home, but that was it. So, my worries are over. ;D 8) Thanks to everyone who had advise. And yes Azjay, I ran with the HDs, gear for gear, mile for mile.

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by justin_o_guy on 12/23/06 at 22:52:59

Yep, Dana, your worries are over. Well, maybe one thing to consider. How is it you managed to be so short of oil after a 300 mile blast? I used to use some oil, even before the very minor leak at the clutch actuator/case, when I ran it that hard. Haven't seen it go down yet since I went to 20/40. I haven't seen anyone's take on that oil yet. I may be messing it up. Sure hope not. Also, I saw the oil stay constant in the window when the oil was fresh, but after 1,500 or so miles I started seeing some useage. Good luck, Glad you have no outright leak.

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by firsts40 on 12/23/06 at 23:05:15

I have been checking it on regular basis, and have seen a slight drop in it, but it has stayed in the safe range. I figure it used a little iol between the 300 mile trip and the 200 mile trip the other day. Both trips were around the same speed. Before the first trip, the oil was between 1/2 and 3/4. It may have been "operator error" in checking it on my part also. The main thing is the shop said "Little Suzi" was well and doing fine. ;D 8)

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by justin_o_guy on 12/23/06 at 23:20:58

Very good news there. Coolness

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by necropsy on 12/24/06 at 06:50:37

When you ride with that many "big dogs", you're bound to get pee'd on.

Title: Re: Oil Leak
Post by WD on 12/24/06 at 08:03:07

Having lived where you live, and gotten my bike from the Biloxi dealer...

20W50 GTX, year round. Yep, the car oil. Used the entire oil sump worth of 10W40 synthetic at the Little Sturgis (MS) rally in an hour.

Expect the speedometer cable to weep oil, fr its full length. And for the speedo itself to drip oil on the top of the engine. It gets wicked up, has to go somewhere.

The fuel line is a replace yearly item. Get reinforced from Carquest, the factory type is actually vacuum line.

IRCs will dry rot away to nothing, quickly. Heat and salt air.

Ought as well paint your chrome now...ask Max Morley, he bought my old fender rails. The front sides were okay, the insides were rusty. I ended up painting my spokes and hubs when I moved away from there, they were rough. And get some fork gaiters, they'll help preserve your tubes and seals.

Expect the muffler to last a season or two. The salt air gets in and rots them out, starting at the weep hole on the very bottom. If you ride every day, the engine heat significantly slows the process.

If Beauvoir hadn't been Katrina'd, I'd move back in a heartbeat. Good food, mostly good people, tons of great rides. And little snow (snowed on us in 96 at the shop in Gulfport).
-WD