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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> K&N Conical filter /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1166503417 Message started by geo on 12/18/06 at 20:43:37 |
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Title: K&N Conical filter Post by geo on 12/18/06 at 20:43:37 Is there a noticeable enough difference in performance to justify the installation of this air filter? |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by Savage_Rob on 12/19/06 at 05:41:05 I'd say yes but it's not the only alternative. I personally went with the K&N drop in replacement and removed the snorkel. I'm very pleased with that setup. There are also foam filters and a lot of discussion about all types. In general, when you let more air in you let more dirt in. The reverse is also true. When you restrict more particulates, you also restrict airflow. It's up to you to balance it to your tastes. |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by SAMM on 12/19/06 at 07:26:49 I like my cone K&N filter but something to remember is there is no protection from the rain... (Without an air box) Yes Im a fair weather rider ;D |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by Hashbrown on 12/19/06 at 08:09:53 you will see a noticable difference in performance and sound. Because of the increase in airflow, you might need to rejet and at least retune your carb to compensate for the adjustment. You won't be disapointed ;D |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by geo on 12/19/06 at 17:33:17 I neglected to point out, I'm coming from a K&N slip in. I've noticed some higher speed power improvement from that. Is the cone better yet? |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by Savage_Rob on 12/20/06 at 05:34:46 geo wrote:
I can't say for sure but I would doubt there would be much improvement over the K&N drop-in with the snorkel removed. The two main differences I can think of would be that you could reclaim the area occupied by the airbox and your intake will be more exposed to rain (if you ride in the rain - some don't). |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by lancer on 12/20/06 at 05:55:04 Even though the filter is more exposed than before, I don't think there is any concern of water infiltration. The filter is up against the bottom of the seat and when mounted on the bike the riders legs help protect the sides. Even when riding in heavy rain I have never found the filter to be wet, much less getting any water through it and into the engine ... a little water vapor could be good for it. |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by allan on 12/20/06 at 11:05:46 Ah lancer Steam power? now theres an idea :D |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by mickthelimey on 12/20/06 at 11:27:52 lancer is quite correct ,haven't you guys noticed that your bike seems to run better on damp days, there have been several atempts to add a little moisture to the air intake but they cant seem to get the right amount ,so they just leave it alone. |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by barry68v10 on 12/20/06 at 14:46:43 Quote:
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Actually this is an "old" concept. Water injection has been VERY successful on everything from drag cars to Jet engines. You can actually build a very mild water vapor injection kit for the savage out of a fish tank bubbler and a small plastic bottle. Just fill the bottle with water and put the bubbler in the bottom hooked to an outside air source. Hook a vacuum tube to the top of the bottle so air is sucked through the tube/bubbler setup. It will bubble through the water and be "injested" by the engine. Big help in hot/dry climates... Lots of expensive aftermarket kits out there with power boosts thru 100%. Thought about one myself. |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by barry68v10 on 12/20/06 at 14:48:37 Clarification: The fish-tank bubbler is really just a bubbler stone that takes an air source and "bubbles" it through the water it is submerged in. |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by Savage_Rob on 12/21/06 at 08:18:17 And this is all soooooo pertinent to the question of whether a K&N cone offers any significant performance improvement over a K&N drop-in filter. |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by Rockin_John on 12/21/06 at 20:52:50 Savage_Rob wrote:
Maybe this is at least back towards the original track: I've been looking at the K&N air filter options for my old '87, and discovered that there isn't a drop-in listed on their web site for the pre- '95 bikes. Then searching this site I haven't come up with the model number of the Cone filter that is a best fit for the old stock carb. Anyone care to share that model # info? |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by geo on 12/21/06 at 21:36:28 Be careful water injecting and nitrus injecting these engines. The original designers probably didn't account for this when doing the bearing design, and engine structural design. This thing could blow up right into your crotch! |
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Title: Re: K&N Conical filter Post by Fido_the_Cat on 12/22/06 at 19:08:16 Savage_Rob wrote:
"SNOKEL" Air inlet? #10 in some parts list? I'm on my way to the Tech board to get notes on some Mods. Tis the Season. |
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