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Title: tires - tires - & more tires Post by john1652 on 11/27/06 at 14:45:05 Hey, the tires on my suzooki are some kinda IRC stuff, after only 2600 miles the centers are as bald as , well me I guess. I like the wet traction they provided but there has to be A tire that last longer than that. Now you who own a savage know my tire didn't wear out because it burns rubber in all 5 gears. Just junk oem tires would be my guess. Really they started sliding out in heel dragging turns about 400 miles ago. Any input would be well appreciated. As a side note i live in western Pa and it should be snowing, but the weather has been great for biking for the last week. I am stoked, the bike runs great in 50 degree weather. Have a great ride and buckle up for safety. John |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by Brewbrother on 11/27/06 at 14:55:01 john1652 wrote:
IRC are the stock tire. I went with Dunlops and so far I am pleased. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by flywest on 11/27/06 at 16:07:09 :)Brewbrother, I have Dunlap 404 on my old KZ400 realy like them. What size & Modle Dunlap do you have on your Thumper. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by justin_o_guy on 11/27/06 at 16:24:29 I got a Promaxx by Maxiss to replace the stock(slick as snot from day 1 that wore out in 5,ooo miles.) & was so happy with it that I replaced front & rear when the first Maxiss wore out at 12,000. I ride the crud out of this bike. My footpegs are worn off 5/16ths from draggin them around corners & the back tire shows wear all the way to the edge, though that is slight since the tire only has 1000 miles on it. I got them from Motorcycle Superstore & paid no freight.I got 3 tubes & tire ballancing wieghts & rim strips all for about $180.00. You can look for local dealers for the Maxiss tires. They are all over the place I found out after I got these. I don't push it in the wet, but when I do ride it in the wet I am satisfied. There may well be better & I intend to try the other tires the folks with the most experience riding suggest, too. I would say you will be very happy with the Maxiss & for the price it is a winner in my book. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by Brewbrother on 11/27/06 at 16:28:02 flywest wrote:
Dunlop 404. Seem to be working nicely. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by Reelthing on 11/27/06 at 19:37:39 Fan of the metzler me880's here - not sure you can wear out a front one and rear seems to go over 15k |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by geo on 11/27/06 at 20:49:13 Get Metzelers for this bike. This is your only choice. Go to tiresunlimited.com for the best price. The Metzeler is the tire all the custom builders use, and for good reason. These tires hold up and are beautiful. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by georgekathe on 11/27/06 at 21:28:08 in principle I agree with the recommendation for metzler ME880s, but decided to go with a Dunlop 404 & am very pleased with it. less $$ than metzler (which I agree are great tires - just question if not overkill on Savage - have metzler brand tires on my other more powerful bike). the Dunlop is a good price & much better than stock/crap IRC. can't recall where purchased on internet but google them to check on prices - how I did ti - offers change all the time. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by Max_Morley on 11/27/06 at 21:39:16 I like the Dunlop K-555 in the stock size for the back. It is made for the old Hoda PC800 which is a sport touring bike and it i a slightly heavier load carrying capacity than stock. Works well with the bagger loads of mine. Has deep tread when new which I end up wearing flat across in this part of the US, the roads are mostly section lines with few curves. Max |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by azjay on 11/28/06 at 05:48:12 we have dunlops on both HDs and the suzuki, the savage had a k555 on the rear and the origional irc on the front when we bought it, i added a d404 front a week later, because the 10 year old rubber was hard, weathered, and slid around like a greased pig. i've got 12,000 miles on the dunlops on my HD (fxrp a sport/touring type), the rear is showing a little flattening in the center, but they still stick well, and i'm putting plenty of horsepower to them ;D i dont have ANY idea how they work in the rain, we dont get that nasty stuff out here :P my buddy went to metzlers on his HDs and is very pleased with their performance. they are very sticky, his bagger has 103" screaming eagle motor and wheelies after a short burn out. his fxr is turbo'd and putting 117 hp/ 117 ftlb torque to the ground, and will nearly launch itself into the the air when the rear tire gets sticky :o. he said dunlops would simply burn and smoke ::) |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by john1652 on 11/29/06 at 07:58:21 I found a tire yesterday size 130/90-15. It is a couple of inches smaller and thought it might look great, because it will lower the back end. but i wonder how it effect the handling. Has any one tried this size |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by luken on 11/29/06 at 08:52:23 john1652 wrote:
I went with the 140/90-15 last time and I definately want to try a smaller, fatter tire next time. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by ND on 11/29/06 at 14:36:11 I read on a tire mfr's web site (Dunlop, I think) that one of the problems with putting a tire on too narrow of a rim is the it forces the tire to bend around more than it should leaving a narrower contact patch. The stock rim is a 2.75 I believe, and as some folks have already stated this size is more in line with a 130 tire than anything else. For that reason I bought (but have not yet installed ) a 130/90/15 (Dunlop 404) for the rear. This tire is actuall a little taller than stock, and only about 1/2 inch narrower. I figure the contact patch will be about the same as stock because of the above stated info. This size gives you a lot more options that stock, and with the light weight of the bike some reduction in load capability shouldn't be a problem. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by phasender on 12/01/06 at 09:44:02 So I was riding my '97 LS650 in the rain on Monday, gently accelerated through a wide right turn, and the rear tire lost all traction, I skidded, wobbled, and ended up lodged on the median, but still upright. I've skidded before in the rain, and later that day, I was turning at 3 mph in a parking lot, and I guess I hit an oil patch, because I felt the rear tire slide a couple inches. The tires are just the factory installed tires with plenty of tread left on them. Am I sliding around just because it's a light bike on city streets, or do I just have bad tires? |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by vroom1776 on 12/01/06 at 09:47:04 oil + water = no traction. the white paint on streets is very slippery when dry, let alone wet. I run expesive a$$ed Metler 880s, and still slip in those conditions, even on my 600+ lb V* 1100. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 12/03/06 at 15:33:29 phasender wrote:
If your tires are new then it might be just that they aren't broken in. I've seen signs in motorcycle shops saying beware that new tires can be slick for the first few hundred miles. Something to do with chemicals still leeching from a new tire. Oops I'm sorry I didn't see that your riding a 97, are you saying they are original tires, then they might just be weathered hard. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by justin_o_guy on 12/06/06 at 08:27:38 My stock tires were always slimy. Only lasted 5,000 on the back. When I replaced that sorry tire it was like having a different bike. As soon as I scuffed that tire in I was having FUN in corners, not worrying so much about it sliding out & low siding it. When the rear wore out a second time the front was shot, so replaced both & SHAZZAM, it's a motorcycle. Handles so much better than stock. Several tire types are spoken highly of here. You can't go wrong following the advice of these folks with experience. My advice is replace the tire on the rear at least. Both tires if you really want to feel secure in a corner. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by Savage_Rob on 12/06/06 at 11:26:08 I went with Dunlop 491 Elite II and also with the 140/90-15. I have been very pleased with the tires in general and, with the 12.5" Progressive shocks, the changed height/stature and handling of the bike. I did bolt a hockey puck to the bottom of the sidestand to compensate for the additional lean though. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by phasender on 12/06/06 at 11:29:48 Thanks. If my tires are weathered hard, is there anyway to soften them up without replacing them? Not that it matter much right now, battery's drained, and my friend's got the charger, so I'm grounded for a bit. justin_o_guy wrote:
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by Savage_Rob on 12/06/06 at 11:32:03 phasender wrote:
I'm pretty sure that if you remove the tires, soak 'em in gasoline and light 'em with a match, they'll soften up eventually. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by phasender on 12/06/06 at 15:37:51 I'll try that tomorrow. Do I want the high octane fuel, or can I get away with 87 octane? I guess I should clean them first, huh? Just kidding. Actually, though, I usually fill up with premium gas, because at 50 mpg, I figure the extra half penny a mile is worth it. What do you guys use? |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by john1652 on 12/06/06 at 16:57:11 [url][/url] yes but my question is this : has anyone used the 130/90-15 tire? There are several manufactures with that size and I wonder if it makes any appreciable difference thanks so much for the tire softening ideas let me know how it works john |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by justin_o_guy on 12/07/06 at 04:43:11 Paying for that extra octane content in a low compression engine is a waste. Buy El Cheapo fuel & crank the throttle hard enough to waste it! Then use your savings on fuel to pay for more fuel. You are purchasing ;Ds |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by ND on 12/29/06 at 18:30:18 I put the Dunlop 404 130/90/15 on my '04 and I am well pleased with it. I put about 110 miles on it yesterday. It handles very well, but I have to admit that I'm not a peg-scraper and I rarely drive over 65 mph. It doesn't look much different on the bike than the 140, and it gives you several brands to choose from. Plus the tire is slightly taller than the stock tire, which is what I wanted. With the rim being as narrow as it is I don't think I'm giving up any tread contact area. My .02. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by YonuhAdisi on 12/30/06 at 19:32:40 I will be replacing my rear tire pretty soon, already have a dunlop on the front. (unknown model) I was wondering what all weather dunlop you would suggest. I'm not up on tire models so I don't know if the dunlop models mentioned already are all weather or not. |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by clueless on 12/30/06 at 19:36:20 Dunlop 404......works fine ;D |
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Title: Re: tires - tires - & more tires Post by TVR on 12/31/06 at 09:53:39 I went with the Dunlop K555 140/80-15 about 300 miles ago. Its just now gripping like it should in the corners. |
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