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Message started by phasender on 11/18/06 at 11:06:06

Title: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by phasender on 11/18/06 at 11:06:06

Trying to do a handlebar mod to reduce the vibrations on my LS650. I bought 7lbs of small lead pellets, a tube of 100% silicone, and finally decided on the non-flame kuryakyn grips, which I haven't ordered yet. The handlebars are the standard U shaped handlebars, Buckhorns, I guess, not flat.

I was planning on  just pouring the lead into the handlbars and capping it off with some silicone last night, but when i took off the shiny plastic end cap of the grips, lo and behold, the handlebar was capped off! What's up with that? I'm torn on whether I should buy new handlebars or just try to drill through the cap. Is there anything in there I need to worry about?

Also, the grips are silver plastic on the ends, black plastic on the inside, look pretty standard When I get my kuryakyns, can I just saw those off? Since I'm going to replace the grips, do you think I should buy a new throttle sleeve too?

Winter's coming. Cat crap is a really good for anti-fog!

Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by luken on 11/18/06 at 11:14:41

There have been a few posts about this.  I dont know much about it, but I seem to recal somebody saying it really didnt do much?

Do a search for handlebar vibration and you can see some of them.  

Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by spike on 11/18/06 at 20:20:13

CAT CRAP?!  :o  I don't have a cat so how about dog? :(

Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by phasender on 11/19/06 at 08:15:27

LOL

http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=608&memberId=12500226

It's such a noob question, but I'm basically trying to figure out how to take off the grips or, alternately, to poke a hole in the metal cap at the end so I can pour the lead in. Get the Led in, so to speak.

Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by Max_Morley on 11/19/06 at 10:06:37

If you Savage is OK, it shouldn't have bar vibration, at least mine doesn't. I'd check all engine to frame bolts for correct torque/tightness, a front tire not balanced or out of balance from losing a weight or wear, front forks low on oil or not absorbing correctly.  Yes there are plugs and I believe weights in the ends of the buckhorn bars, to removed the grips, remove the plastic plug (it is friction fit unless someone has glued it back in) and then use a sharp knife to cut a line down the old grip rubber and peel it off on the left side. Do the same on the throttle except realize there is a plastic/nylon type sleeve under the grip but around the bar, you will have to remove the ridges on the sleeve and some of the material to get the Kurykan grip to fit OK, or at least I did when I put the ISO grips on mine. There should be lots of about the switch information on here.Max

Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by phasender on 11/19/06 at 13:18:27

Thanks, Max. I should have checked the handlebar before I ordered all that birdshot! Maybe I'll take up quail hunting.

The vibrations all come from the engine: the handlebar vibrates when I rev it in neutral. I'll take your advice and try to tighten the engine to frame bolts.

I tried to search the old threads, but I couldn't find an answer to this question: On my old bike, the rubber cushions that connected the handlebar brackets to the steering stem were about 1 inch wide, which I assume reduces handlebar vibrations a lot. The ones on my Savage are around 1-2mm. I searched online for replacements. Can I just take a polyurethane bushing kit for a Harley and use it to replace the barely existent rubber cushions on my savage?

Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by Kropatchek on 11/20/06 at 02:45:03


phasender wrote:

I tried to search the old threads, but I couldn't find an answer to this question: On my old bike, the rubber cushions that connected the handlebar brackets to the steering stem were about 1 inch wide, which I assume reduces handlebar vibrations a lot. The ones on my Savage are around 1-2mm. I searched online for replacements. Can I just take a polyurethane bushing kit for a Harley and use it to replace the barely existent rubber cushions on my savage?


The OEM installation of the risers have 2 off 1" dia. rubber bushings. One on top and one on the bottom of the upper triple tree , covered by two large washers.
Check the diagram of ronayers.com
http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/300_0271/steering_stem/steering_stem.cfm?man=su&groupid=7190&parent=7080
The tapered portion of item #12 and #11 is rubber

Greetz
Kropatchek 8)


Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by phasender on 11/20/06 at 09:30:18

So if I purchase a harley bushing kit, can I replace cushions #11 and #12 with the new bushings? Can I add them on top? Will the bolts, etc. fit?

Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by Kropatchek on 11/21/06 at 03:59:40


phasender wrote:
So if I purchase a harley bushing kit, can I replace cushions #11 and #12 with the new bushings? Can I add them on top? Will the bolts, etc. fit?


Sorry, can't help you with the HD kit, I'm not familiar with that.

The OEM installation dampens the vibration enough IMOO.

I used Intruder risers ( 2"higher) and a bar of 1"dia to my liking.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2383/tachzz5.jpg

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5122/savhd2th5.jpg

Greetz
Kropatchek ;D


Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by Jim_R on 11/21/06 at 11:44:10

all u need is kuryakyn grips.

Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by phasender on 11/25/06 at 14:56:33

I thought all you needed was love?

I installed the kuryakyn's yesterday. Took me an hour to cut/sand down the throttle sleeve, and when I finally put the throttle sleeve on, I didn't get it all the way on and I ended up with a 1/2" gap between the grip and the switch box.

Overall, they're great! They cut out a lot of the vibrations, though the high frequency vibrations still come through a bit. And, I feel like I get a better grip and better control than with the stock grips. I think that I'll buy a pair of stilleto ends, as bar end weights, keep wearing my gel palm gloves and call it good enough.

The only major complaint I have with them is that I can't use my velcro hand warmers with them. Oh well.

It looks like I was confused about the handlebar/stem cushions. Unless I want to shell out $500, there's no real way to quiet the handlebar.


Jim_R wrote:
all u need is kuryakyn grips.



Title: Re: Noob Handlebar mod
Post by Kropatchek on 11/26/06 at 05:12:51


phasender wrote:
I installed the kuryakyn's yesterday. Took me an hour to cut/sand down the throttle sleeve, and when I finally put the throttle sleeve on, I didn't get it all the way on and I ended up with a 1/2" gap between the grip and the switch box.


Move the switchbox towards the grip.

Greetz
Kropatchek ;D

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