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Title: bang for your buck Post by franch on 10/20/06 at 19:16:22 Can anyone think of a better bike for the buck than we get with the savage ? In my case I had limited funds ($1200 from an ATV sale) and i had asked my friends advice, he said get the newest model year you can, no matter what it is. Everything I looked at was 80's, chain drive, needing something or other, then stumbled on to the savage, a 98 for $1100 jacket and helmet thrown in. yeah it had 16k but so what ? this was clearly a case of rather being lucky than good as the savage is in it's own right an awesome motorcycle. recently we measured the 2 bikes to see if they would both fit in my toyota pickup and he was flabergasted when the harley was only 2 inches longer. It's all in the sweeping savage rake. By the way that friend who gave me advice rides a 2000 harley 1200 sportster xl for which he paid 8999 used. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 10/21/06 at 18:00:31 I got my '95 in August with less than 8000 miles, with studded throwover bags, Slipstreamer windshield and a highway bar with O-ring footpegs, for the paltry sum of $1200. It's been great. T'is better to be lucky than good most times. ;D |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Stimpy on 10/21/06 at 22:58:40 Nop, canīt think of any bike that comes even close for that price. $1,100 for a 98 with 16k sounds pretty sweet to me. Maybe you can get a recent model Honda Rebel 250 (or a Suzuki GZ250 or something from the now "classic" Honda CB series) for around that price. Rebels are a bit underpowered and lack the torque of a Savage (which is the FUN part ;D) but the top speed issue can be fixed easily by getting a 30 or 28 tooth rear sprocket instead of the 33 stocker. Rebels, and such, are cheap, light and nimble and good enough to learn the basics and this will give you enough time to save some more money untill you are ready sell the pile and upgrade, and buy a Savage ;D. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by lancer on 10/22/06 at 05:44:24 Just changing the rear pully will not make for a higher top speed, only more power will accomplish that. When the engine is making enough power to pull 5th gear all the way to 6500 rpm (the stated redline/max rpm), which will translate to about 100 mph +/-, then you could change the pulley and expect that it might increase the max speed. Many bikes may even have a higher top speed in 4th gear than 5th, because 5th is too tall for the power available. 5th gear is typically a highway cruise gear, made to be able to cruise at 60 or 70 at a lower rpm than the old standard 4 gear trans. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Salad_Shaker on 10/23/06 at 03:04:17 With respect, I read the earlier post to be referring to changing the rear sprocket on the Rebel not the belt pulley on our Savages - an issue pretty comprehensively debated recently in another string. :P |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by lancer on 10/23/06 at 04:11:49 Salad_Shaker wrote:
OK, it is out in the open now, I am mentally challenged. ::) Of course there are some folks who having known me for many years would say that is nothing new. Thank you for helping this older person across the road of words in order to avoid being hurt by the oncoming traffic. I thank you. Trying to skim through the posts too quickly ends up with me in a rear end collision when I post a response that is #*@^ ... wrong. Thank you for being gentle as well. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Stimpy on 10/23/06 at 11:43:50 All that Iīm trying to say is that: - NO, I donīt think anything comes even close in value more than a Suzuki Savage. Thatīs why I bought one ;D - And that I used to have a Rebel a while back and it would seem that the engine would explode at 60m/h (4th top/gear) untill I changed the rear procket and that helped things A LOT. - And that the Rebel (and other bikes like it) and the Savage are in the same price range (both new and used) and that itīs clear which is the better choice, for people in the market for one, that is. Unless you want to spend $5000+ for a used Sportster which is the bike after which basically the Savage was designed after. Thatīs all. (And donīt roll your eyes at me for trying to participate and give my opinion and share my experiences ::) ) |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by lancer on 10/23/06 at 11:50:50 Quote:
I used the rolling eye character because I am a bit goofy at times, and because like everyone I may say of do something dumb. I was making fun of myself. Lighten up and have fun. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Stimpy on 10/23/06 at 11:58:01 ;D |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Hashbrown on 10/24/06 at 10:22:19 $1600 for a 98 with only 3500 miles. Now thats a bang for your buck. Also, its not the fact that you can push 80 that makes the savage great, its because you can get their in 6 seconds! ;D |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Salad_Shaker on 10/25/06 at 08:55:34 Whilst I do enjoy going from zero to max in as short a time as possible I've not yet worked out how to time myself while doing it - it takes pretty much all my powers of concentration to get The Lettuce screaming down the highway without keeping half an eye on a stopwatch. How? Any suggestions? |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by lancer on 10/26/06 at 05:19:25 That is what the Veypor is for. By the way, just as a general notice, I am backing out of the parts business a good bit. It is taking too much time with little return for it. Especially the ebay fee's, they are eating up most of the gross profit and leaving almost no net profit. So if anyone wants to get a Veypor, VR2 or accessories for them, I will get them at cost + shp for anyone who wants them. By Christmas time I plan on being down to just the Savage specific parts. The Veypor lists for $279, cost was $205 the last time I ordered one. Shipping runs $15-20 mostly, depending on whether it is shipped from the Canadian or the US facility. So the total would be about $225 instead of the regular $300. I will post a seperate notice with closeout prices on parts after we get back from out trip this next week. Salad_Shaker wrote:
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by mornhm on 10/26/06 at 05:22:12 I think the Concours is more bang for the buck than the Savage, but then again some people would just call me cheap. A lot of other people out there agree that there isn't a MC that gives more bang for the buck than the Concours, and acknowledge the Savage as a close second. Personally, I think the Ninja 250 is a lot of bang for the buck also. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by barry68v10 on 10/26/06 at 15:21:35 I got a 98 Savage with 698 miles for $1775. It was in showroom condition when I picked it up. I hope nobody hates me for this, but I had no intention of buying a Savage (I'm over 6' and everything I read said the Savage was too small for me.) Now that I have it I've been riding it to work everyday and really like it! I've been getting close to 60 MPG and I'll continue to ride it as long as the temp is above freezing. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by DianeS. on 10/26/06 at 19:46:15 I got an awesome deal when I purchased my used Savage. A 2000 with 7,400 kms. on it for $2899 Cdn. New ones were going for @ $5000 here. I keep snooping in the Buy & Sell magazine - not because I am looking because I love my savage, but just to keep an idea of prices etc. The only bikes I've seen with similar prices are the 250s, or older bikes with lots of miles on them. The cheapest new Harley, the 883 retails here for @ $8 or 9 grand. Though there are some pretty nice end of season deals. DianeS |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Savage_Rob on 10/27/06 at 08:39:53 barry68v10 wrote:
That is one heck of a deal. I got my 98 Savage a little over two years with 1640 miles on it in excellent condition for $2200. Good enough for me. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Vikki on 10/27/06 at 08:46:38 You're right, Diane. The prices are horrendous. I was shocked when I started shopping around for a used bike and discovered that $2,000 Canadian would generally only get you a 20-year-old bike with 40,000 kilometres on it and in need of some work. My husband fluked out on a website where a guy had just posted his 1996 Savage with 5,800 miles (9,300 kilometres) on it with no work needed for only $2,000 Canadian. You can bet we jumped on that right away, especially when he sent us the pictures and we saw the excellent condition of the bike. There were some additional costs incurred along the way because the bike had been purchased in the U.S. and had never been registered in Canada, so we agreed to split the costs, and in the end we paid $2,200 still WAY better than anything else we had seen. It has turned out be an excellent purchase. Vikki |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Jim_R on 10/27/06 at 13:59:40 I think for that price your options are SEVERELY LIMITED. I think u could get a very nice bicycle with that budget tho. I think for the money you are better off with a Suzuki Savage that has been taken care of and low miles. U'll notice that the stock savage has a longer rake than a harley sportster. wierd huh? ps no offense about the budget.. I only paid 1300 for mine but the cam chain broke like 1k after I got it. I should have realized that METAL SLAPPING NOISE wasnt normal hehe. I had a 1995 with a 5 speed. U prob want a 5speed because it breaks 100mph easier ( ::) ) Teasin |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by DianeS. on 10/27/06 at 18:07:42 In the Buy & Sell magazine (at least here in Ontario, Canada) I often see used savages with very few kilometers on them. I guess people buy the bike, ride it for a bit, and then want to move up to a two cylinder or bigger bike. I am the 5th owner of my savage, and yet in the 5 years before I purchased it, those 4 owners only put on 7,400 kms. Couldn't have ridden it much. I don't ride it in the rain, but even so, I've just about gotten 13,000 kms. on it so far. Kind of feel that the bike must be happy to finally be ridden and taken care off (lol). There do seem to be an awful lot of used bikes for sale though. I wonder how many people go out buy a bike, find it's too much bike to handle, and then sell it. There sometimes seem to be good deals on salvage title bikes, if you know what to do to fix them and bring them back to title status. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by firsts40 on 10/27/06 at 19:00:54 I have a new S40 that I bought from the local Suzuki dealership for $4099. I get compliments from Harley riders all the time on what a sharp bike it is. It is stock with a Boulavard Sport shield and Boulavard compact slant bags. I go out on very short 50 and 60 mile cruises all the time, and sometimes I go out on a medium cruise of around 200 miles or so. The bike is comfortable for me, and when I get on the Interstate, I have no problem cruising at 70. It is great around town and commuting back and forth to work (12 miles round trip), and just overall a pleasure to ride. What more can you ask for for around $4000? Gotta love the S40 :) 8) |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by pittmancharles on 10/28/06 at 19:35:19 01 ls650, 5000 miles on it, highway pegs, saddle bags, two helmets, sissy bar, got it for $1500. definately bang for a buck |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by franch on 10/29/06 at 13:31:47 Pittmancharles, Can I hear a hell yeah ? that was an awesome deal, how long did you look for that bargain ? |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by femme fatale on 10/29/06 at 20:06:22 Hashbrown wrote:
Aaaa, I got a 2001 with only 533 miles for $1800! I got a great BIG BANG for my buck! The Michigan economy is all downhill so you can find great deals here. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by pittmancharles on 10/29/06 at 21:28:49 hell yeah. deal fell in my lap, from a guy i was selling a guitar to. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by barry68v10 on 10/30/06 at 02:20:36 Quote:
Wow! Guess I'll have to shop for stuff in Michigan... |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Salad_Shaker on 10/30/06 at 04:44:50 Can't match those supercheap purchases - The Lettuce cost me 2400 (3000$) for a '97 with 20k km/12k miles on it, one previous owner. However, the other question that the Savage wins on is cheap insurance. I pay 180 (230$) a year whereas the XJ 600 Diversion I was eyeing up would have cost me almost 1000 (1290$) to insure! No contest, the Savage wins hands down. Insurance is something I don't understand as it varies so much between markets - maybe there's a US/Canada divide on this too. There certainly is in Europe. That Divi could be insured in the UK for a mere 78 pounds a year i.e. 120/150$. Makes me seriously consider buying my next bike back in England, riding it the 1500miles out here and see how long I can get away with it on UK plates without importing it. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by Bulwark on 11/15/06 at 14:09:33 Well, I was heavily leaning towards a new 2006 GS500F but I think a S40 may be a better deal for me. Cash is very limited for us as Ive been on disability for a while now. How is the Savage for having a passenger on it? It will mostly be myself and my 7 yr old on the bike but once in a while I wouldnt mind having my wife on the back. The S40 is $1100 CAD less than the GS and Ill mostly be in town with the occasional 2 hr drive. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by lancer on 11/15/06 at 14:30:21 The substantial torque in the low/mid range and upright riding position make the Savage a great "around town" bike. |
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Title: Re: bang for your buck Post by barry68v10 on 11/15/06 at 16:46:20 I've taken several trips with my 7-year old and my 10-year old. Can't even tell they're on the back! |
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