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Message started by Rockin_John on 10/18/06 at 15:45:44

Title: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Rockin_John on 10/18/06 at 15:45:44

Postman delivered my new exhaust pipe and a Sportster seat a few hours ago.

http://www.catoosatrading.com/images/vehicles/cycles/my_ls650/dyna_muff/longtout2.jpg

Of course I couldn't wait to hear the pipe, So...

http://www.catoosatrading.com/images/vehicles/cycles/my_ls650/dyna_muff/savage_turnout1.jpg

Man is this baby LOUD! I looked through it, and all it has is a kind of round "snuffer" covering about half the middle, and that is supposed to direct "some" of the exhaust through a baffle pipe with holes, about an inch in diameter less than the outer pipe.

And where the Dyna muffler on an extension didn't backfire any more than the stock can, this thing is sounding like .22s mixed with the occasional 12ga.

I got it to putt around the block without being too annoying by backing the idle mix screw about 1-1/2 out from stock. Still sounded like a cannon when I rolled the throttle off though.

Gonna take some serious jetting to settle this pipe down, but I'm tempted to stick with it and see how civil I can get it to behave. If I can minimize the backfires and short shift through the neighborhoods, I don't mind a bit having the loudness out on the highway or backroads, or interupting those stop light cell phone calls at intersections ;D

Gonna have to fabricate a bracket, and thinking about taking 3-4 inches off of it (requiring a trip to the muffler shop to get the pipe swedged out). As long as there is still enough straight pipe to keep my chrome flame heat shield :)

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Trippah on 10/18/06 at 17:06:09

Just curious- is swedged a real word. At least folks willknow when you are ariving. Ride safe.

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by mickthelimey on 10/18/06 at 19:34:12

Just checked,Swedge is not a word dangit,I love that word,it's funny it may not be a word but I think every one knows what it means,OK so where did you get it and how much was it,looks very nice,good job.

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Max_Morley on 10/18/06 at 21:16:19

That is strange I've heard that word used by muffler folks, plumbers, irrigation pipe fixers, mechanics and others. Maybe the dictionary just doesn't have technical words in it. Max

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by lancer on 10/19/06 at 03:47:48

You have to have the "Special Tech Dictionary" in order to read those very special technical terms.

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Enfield_fan on 10/19/06 at 05:19:49

The word is "swaged," guys...and it's a perfectly good word.

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Rogue_Cheddar on 10/19/06 at 10:01:35

Max_Morley wrote:

That is strange I've heard that word used by muffler folks, plumbers, irrigation pipe fixers, mechanics and others. Maybe the dictionary just doesn't have technical words in it. Max

Yeah, like "Fogerty bevel or phreniated plebney".

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Rockin_John on 10/19/06 at 11:30:52

Enfield_fan wrote:

The word is "swaged," guys...and it's a perfectly good word.

Right you are, and I should have known better than to use the common shop vernacular. After all, I've "swaged" a few thousand hydraulic hoses in my day. But in the case of a hose, you are crimping the connection smaller, instead of enlarging it like a muffler pipe. Still, the same word applies.

In fact, one might say I was a swagin’ MF’r don’t cha know! Oops, there I go using a vernacular in the place of real words again! :P

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Rockin_John on 10/19/06 at 11:36:42

mickthelimey wrote:

Hey Mick, I got the pipe and the Sportster seat from that eBay seller kwik-bay. Gave him $49.99US for the pipe, and $99.95 for the seat. He sent them together, and I should be due some money back on combined shipping charges.

I know that there are cheaper ways to get some of the parts I've bought, but sometimes I'm willing to pay a bit of a premium to have them magically appear on my doorstep :)

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by vroom1776 on 10/19/06 at 15:17:29

"Swedged" is a perfectly cromulent word!

Good work John! Don't PO yr neighbors too much... unless...

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by luken on 10/21/06 at 07:54:35

That truly looks awsome. Thats a Dyna? Looks just like the screamin eagle I have been coveting.

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Rockin_John on 10/21/06 at 08:48:17

luken wrote:

That truly looks awsome. Thats a Dyna? Looks just like the screamin eagle I have been coveting.

No, the turn-out is replacing the Dyna:

http://www.catoosatrading.com/images/vehicles/cycles/my_ls650/dyna_muff/PA160002.JPG

Which was temporarily fitted with U-bolt clamps just to hear it. I was a little disappointed with how quiet the Dyna was, so I bought the turn-out to try. The turn-out has VERY little baffling and is almost too loud. I'm debating with myself which pipe to keep and tweak the carb to.

Since I bought this bike to customize, I'm leaning towards letting it be louder than my typical tastes dictate.

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by lancer on 10/21/06 at 17:17:50

If you like the turnout muffler the best, but think it is just a bit too loud, you can always add a small baffle in the long neck at the front end. They are very cheap, easy to install, and can make a noticeable sound difference. Check www.jirehcycles.com and you will likely find one for $10 or less, + shp of course.

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Jim_R on 10/27/06 at 14:21:07

Haha I remember I bought 2 of those mufflers and put them on my bike. It was the mysterious one cylinder that kept people guessing. I do remember it being LOUD as heck. Its alot of fun being under highway overpasses and letting it echo off other cagers.

Oh those were the days.

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by ratdog472 on 10/28/06 at 23:18:16

One of those would be interesting as a turn down.. Let it rumble off the pavement.

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Rockin_John on 10/29/06 at 01:13:44

ratdog472 wrote:

One of those would be interesting as a turn down.. Let it rumble off the pavement.

If the sliding track bracket was in the right position to mate up the the Savage bracket, I would have liked to turn it down!

However, if you line the stock Savage bracket up with the track on the muffler, it points the cutout up at about a 35° angle.

If I keep it on the bike it will require me me to fabricate a hanger bracket to go between the muffler and stock Savage bracket, just to keep it pointing straight out. Rotating it to a downward exhaust exit would leave the sliding track right out on top of the muffler. That wouldn't look too good ;)

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by lancer on 10/29/06 at 05:06:21

You do not need an extra bracket ... just take a good sized adjustable wrench, tighten it on the end of the muffler bracket where the bolt hole is, and bend it into the position which will hold the muffler the way you want it to.

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by Rockin_John on 10/29/06 at 10:44:30

lancer wrote:

I understand what you're saying, but there is enough difference in angle and distance between the two, that just cold bending the existing bracket won't work. Not even with my 24" adjustable wrench and a cheater bar!

Only if I were to do what we in the heavy equipment manufacturing business used to call "H&BTF" (Heat & Beat To Fit) will the stock bracket twist around to the track on this muffler. I'm probably going to avoid that solution, and just make a good solid bracket to go between. ;D

Title: Re: It's here, It's on, and It's LOUD!
Post by lancer on 10/30/06 at 06:16:44

Gotcha ... with the situation as you describe that sounds like the way to go.

Don't ya just love the smell of hot metal in the cool morning air? ;D