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Title: Trouble with cold start. Post by STLBrown on 10/13/06 at 08:37:37 We're getting our first overnight frosts here in Missouri and thumper doesn't want to cold start in the morning. This will be my first winter with the ol' girl and I'm at a loss how to coax her into starting in the cold. I push the ignition and she tries to turn over...I try the choke in....I try the choke out...after a while I just get clicking noises and nothing else. Does my battery need to be replaced? I've never had a problem starting her in weather over 32F. I don't have the luxury of a heated garage or anything, so that's out. I guess I could invite Suzi into bed with me but my girlfriend would probably reject that idea. Although I've always dreamed of..... Nah. Thanks. Chris |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by PerrydaSavage on 10/13/06 at 08:42:50 Welcome aboard Chris! Sounds like you need a new battery ... someone on here recently mentioned a battery that they recently bought that offered more cranking amps that the standard m/c battery ... maybe they'll chime in with a recommendation. An investment in a battery tender prolly wouldn't be a bad idea either. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Savage_Rob on 10/13/06 at 08:47:16 I like my Odyssey but I've heard several others recently who've bought the "Big Crank" brand. Both are AGM. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Reelthing on 10/13/06 at 08:50:19 STLBrown wrote:
Bet a maint free Bigcrank would fix you right up |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by thumperclone on 10/13/06 at 16:57:44 cold weather eats batteries get a battery tender and plug er in at nite or bring er indoors... |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Rockin_John on 10/15/06 at 00:44:48 I'm just going to ring in with others... I put a "Big Crank" in place of a failing battery about a week ago. Great battery. I even worked on my wiring and had the lights off and on for a couple of hours before starting it the first time with the new battery. Got my lights sorted out, and the Savage cranked right up. No charging, nothing... pull the choke; push the start button and Vroom! Just the way it oughta be. No maintenance and no leaking acid too. Best money I've spent on the Savage yet I think. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by verslagen1 on 02/06/07 at 11:33:48 I installed a Big Crank and no more problems. No push starting on cold mornings. Before, my VR1 would shut down with every start. Now it doesn't even wink. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Greg_650 on 02/06/07 at 11:36:48 Every biker needs a Big Crank :) http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/BigCrank_1173x480.jpg |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by franch on 02/06/07 at 12:49:19 how much are those "big crank " batteries anyway ? |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by verslagen1 on 02/06/07 at 13:36:08 $50 plus shipping http://www.bigcrank.com/motorcyclebatteries.mv?p=BIG-ETX15L |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by georgekathe on 02/06/07 at 21:24:03 when my newish AGM battery (came with bike) dies will certainly buy big crank, but also will recommend a battery tender - have one & keeps bike nicely charged. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Odar on 02/08/07 at 12:39:11 Hi Rob What model of the Odyssey battery did you put in your bike? Did you have to cut some edges of to get it in place? Odar |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Savage_Rob on 02/08/07 at 17:48:12 Odar wrote:
I used the PC545MJ. It's wider and shorter than the stock battery. I bent a small piece of aluminum to act as a platform to raise the battery and I removed the tool pouch holder to accommodate the width. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Brewbrother on 02/08/07 at 19:52:22 bought a big crank last week. Other than the modification on the battery connections its a great battery. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Greg_650 on 02/08/07 at 20:27:26 Brewbrother wrote:
Sure is a good battery even though I'm not sure what the "electrolyte stuff" inside is like. What did you have to modify? |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by verslagen1 on 02/08/07 at 22:48:42 I just added a spacer under each cable to get the lip above the terminal. Otherwise you need to flaten the lugs on the cables. Thought about cutting a slot in the terminal to fit the lugs. But want to keep everything stock until it proves out. Since the boot no longer fit over the terminal, I modified the plastic terminal cover that came with the battery to cover the lower half that wasn't being covered by the boot. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Kropatchek on 02/09/07 at 02:24:47 verslagen1 wrote:
For a more/better connection of the lug to the terminal of the battery: REMOVE THE SPACER. Reason: you're adding an extra resistor in between ! ( from the aviation electrical handbook) Greetz Kropatchek ;D |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by barry68v10 on 02/09/07 at 03:28:48 Also, for cold weather starting, synthetic oil will help since it will have much lower viscocity in cold temps. Some of the heavier oil turns into Sillyputty when its coldish out. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 05:28:11 verslagen1 wrote:
Okay. The Big Crank came with some spacers, but I opted to bend the lugs on the cables instead. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Kropatchek on 02/09/07 at 05:56:51 Greg_650 wrote:
Did you read the same book, or is this common sence? Greetz Kropatchek ;D |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 07:32:28 Is this in that book? http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/Battery_1296.jpg |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Max_Morley on 02/09/07 at 08:07:34 In automotive circuits we consider each connection a potential for voltage loss due to the resistance than can occur. If you use the current flowing voltage drop method to check for resistance, 0.1 V is allowed for each connection, but only 0.5 for most circuits (older toyota material allowed for 1.0V per circuit on non computerized ones. If you have any broken stands in your standed type wiring it will cause voltage loss when the load is applied as the path for the current flow is now smaller. An ohmmeter will not catch this as the current flow is very low, only what that 9V battery will push and still run the meter. Max |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by verslagen1 on 02/09/07 at 09:18:18 Yeah, I hear you about the spacers. It's common sense. They'll be pulled and lugs flattened in the future. After I have confidence in the battery. I hate to make a change for something I have to pull right out and return. So far there's so much reserve that my electronic gizmo's don't blank out when starting. ;D |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 09:35:46 Max_Morley wrote:
Yep. Though I might not have explained it that eloquently, that's why I added 4 more ground connections from the harness to the frame. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 09:38:43 verslagen1 wrote:
Another concern that I had was to keep my terminals as low in the box as possible because they are uninsulated. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by verslagen1 on 02/09/07 at 11:21:00 That's why I left the Boot on even though it no longer fit. At least it covered it somewhat. And to protect the bottom I modified the plastic terminal protector. |
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Title: Re: Trouble with cold start. Post by Greg_650 on 02/09/07 at 11:22:39 verslagen1 wrote:
The boots didn't match my "no color" scheme :) |
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