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Message started by gary_ona_savage on 10/07/06 at 20:42:21

Title: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by gary_ona_savage on 10/07/06 at 20:42:21

Got my HD Screaming Eagle turnout pipe installed today.  OH MY GOD!  Is it a head turner!  Oh yeah, I'm riding with the Big Boys now!  [picture me doing cool dance]

So, can you tell I like it?  ;D

When I took it for a test ride it was like a new bike!  I swear it goes faster with that pipe on it.  I was getting head turns from the Harley boys...thumbs up as I went by.  It feels good to be BAD!  If you haven't upgraded your muffler, you have got to.   But I warn you, this pipe is LOUD.  If you don't want loud (like..go deaf after a long ride loud), then don't do it.  However, ear plugs are cheap.    ;)

The upgrade was not hard.  Bought the kit from ebay (if whoever sells it is on the site...I kiss your feet..smack!).  The instructions were very clear with pictures, but really not the necessary.  Taking the old muffler off was the hard part.  Putting the new one on was very easy.  I didn't bend the tab as recommended (which seemed very hard to do).  Instead I bought a wrap around muffler hanging kit at the auto store (2 bolts and wrap metal strip with holes in it).  I wrapped it around muffler hanger and stuck the bolt two holes at the right length, and cut the remander off with my drimmel.  Simple and doesn't look out of place.

So now my Savage has a Sportster seat (with the emblem on the back), and a HD turnout pipe (with the HD logo on the pipe), and no Suzuki emblems on it anywhere (getting it ready for painting).  I wonder if people will be confused seeing what looks like a one-lung "Harley"!  I kinda feel like the old Johny Cash song about the pieced together Caddy.  "Hey, dude...what IS that thing"   ;D  

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by sluggo on 10/07/06 at 23:08:30

great report, well all accept the "cool" dance.   ;)


your right about the cash caddy song.  i do the get old harley thing all the time.

enjoy sluggo

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by Steve530 on 10/08/06 at 00:02:23

Have you added a K&N and modded and rejetted the carbs?


Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by gary_ona_savage on 10/08/06 at 00:25:27

Carb is modded and the new 155 jet is on the way.  Have the pilot backed out 4 turns, but still popping on every shift.  Wouldn't a K&N give it more air and make it run more lean?  It's way to lean as it is now.  Would a 155 jet give me enough fuel to add a K&N?

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by PerrydaSavage on 10/08/06 at 02:33:59

;) This Thread is useless without pics!!  ;)

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by lancer on 10/08/06 at 11:18:49

Hold up there pardner, you are riding dangerously with the pilot screw out 4 turns...it could fall out.  Get the next larger size pilot jet and readjust the pilot air screw.  You never want to go over 3 turns out.  Ideally, shoot for 1.5-2 turns out when you have it running best.




gary_ona_savage wrote:
Carb is modded and the new 155 jet is on the way.  Have the pilot backed out 4 turns, but still popping on every shift.  Wouldn't a K&N give it more air and make it run more lean?  It's way to lean as it is now.  Would a 155 jet give me enough fuel to add a K&N?



Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by gary_ona_savage on 10/08/06 at 14:42:14

Lancer, help please.  What size jet's (main & pilot) should I be running with this exhaust and a stock air filter?  I have a 155 main jet that should be here tomorrow.  Do I need a 55 pilot?

Thanks

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by gary_ona_savage on 10/08/06 at 15:18:42


PerrydaSavage wrote:
;) This Thread is useless without pics!!  ;)


As requested.

Wide shot
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C10%5C08%5Cbikepics-696961-full.jpg

Closeup of muffler
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C10%5C08%5Cbikepics-696962-800.jpg

The muffler/header connection.  New heat shield is on it's way.
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C10%5C08%5Cbikepics-696963-800.jpg

The metal strapping kit, seen from under bike.  You can't see it from the side vew.
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C10%5C08%5Cbikepics-696965-800.jpg

My studded HD sportster seat
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C10%5C08%5Cbikepics-696966-800.jpg


Ok.  I'm out of my league when it comes to knowing what the pipe color means.  As you can see the pipe's already golding up.  The header's golding as well.  The blue was already there.  Does that mean lean or rich.  Haven't had time to pulled the plugs yet.  Only run the bike about 30 minutes with the new pipes on it.  Any help greatly appreciated for this wanna-be motorcycle mechanic.  ;D


Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by Brewbrother on 10/08/06 at 15:37:24


gary_ona_savage wrote:
Carb is modded and the new 155 jet is on the way.  Have the pilot backed out 4 turns, but still popping on every shift.  Wouldn't a K&N give it more air and make it run more lean?  It's way to lean as it is now.  Would a 155 jet give me enough fuel to add a K&N?

the pops on upshift are air leaks in either the exhaust or airboot connections. Is your header bolts tight and is the gasket in the proper position??

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by Brewbrother on 10/08/06 at 15:40:20


gary_ona_savage wrote:


As requested.

Wide shot
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C10%5C08%5Cbikepics-696961-full.jpg

Closeup of muffler
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C10%5C08%5Cbikepics-696962-800.jpg

The muffler/header connection.  New heat shield is on it's way.
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C10%5C08%5Cbikepics-696963-800.jpg

The metal strapping kit, seen from under bike.  You can't see it from the side vew.
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C10%5C08%5Cbikepics-696965-800.jpg

My studded HD sportster seat
http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006%5C10%5C08%5Cbikepics-696966-800.jpg


Ok.  I'm out of my league when it comes to knowing what the pipe color means.  As you can see the pipe's already golding up.  The header's golding as well.  The blue was already there.  Does that mean lean or rich.  Haven't had time to pulled the plugs yet.  Only run the bike about 30 minutes with the new pipes on it.  Any help greatly appreciated for this wanna-be motorcycle mechanic.  ;D


nice looking mods. I also applaud your ability for absract thought with the exhaust hanger, inexpensive and useful.

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by Paladin on 10/08/06 at 15:42:20


gary_ona_savage wrote:
As requested....

Pretty pictures, but not the one's requested.  You stated:


gary_ona_savage wrote:
... [picture me doing cool dance]
(hence Perry's ;) )








Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by gary_ona_savage on 10/08/06 at 23:16:08

Oh THAT picture!  ;D

Here you go!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3190943341066723152&q=funny+dance

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by gary_ona_savage on 10/08/06 at 23:23:28


Brewbrother wrote:

the pops on upshift are air leaks in either the exhaust or airboot connections. Is your header bolts tight and is the gasket in the proper position??


I'm getting a exhaust leak around the header/muffler connection.  Didn't push the muffler on far enough to cover the cuts.

The popping happens when I drop the throttle.  Mostly popping, occasional backfire.  Can I ask again which jet(s) I need to upsize, main, pilot or both?

Thanks.

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by PerrydaSavage on 10/09/06 at 03:17:44

;D LOL!! Thanks for the pics (and the video LOL!!) Nice mods BTW ... good job!

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by TVR on 11/05/06 at 19:11:12

Pics are gone. Sorry I missed em. :-[

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by lancer on 11/06/06 at 02:49:54

If you have not done so yet, pull your main and pilot jet out of the carb and check the sizes.  Go up one size on the pilot jet and install it, and get the next 2 sizes of the main jet.  Install the larger of the 2 main jets, warm up the bike and then do a run test in 3rd or  4th with the throttle wide open for a couple of seconds.  If the engine bogs down then that jet is too big, and you need to go down to the smaller one.  If it runs good and strong then you are good to go.
If you like, you can continue to try the next larger jets until you find the one that causes the engine to bog down, and when you do you just drop back down to the next smaller one that did work properly.

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by jmerry on 11/09/06 at 11:57:02

Whats the easiest way to pull the carb bowl to change the jets?  Anyone have any tips for a first timer?

Thanks!!

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by bholly12 on 11/09/06 at 13:21:04


jmerry wrote:
Whats the easiest way to pull the carb bowl to change the jets?  Anyone have any tips for a first timer?

Thanks!!


I removed the battery, then the battery box, drained the float bowl, then used a stubby phillips screwdriver to remove it, the float bowl came off with no problems.  Jet came out with a stubby flat head.  Piece of cake, took about an hour tops to take it all apart & get it back together.  

If I had thought about it I would have replaced the phillips screws with allens so the battery could be left alone for the next rejet.

-Brad

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by verslagen1 on 11/09/06 at 13:57:14

I have a '96.  I removed the top of the battery box, and the rubber duct to the air box.  Loosen all the clamps, a twist about 45° and a wiggle and out it came.  Sure it's tight, but I like it like that. ;D

Title: Re: OH that Savage Sound!
Post by Dynobob on 11/09/06 at 18:12:21

I did nothing but remove the tank and twist the carburetor in it's mounts. It was quite easy. Removing some of those other parts can be a pain. Get a can of PB Blaster and some needle nose vice grips - you'll likely need them to extract the crappy bowl and diaphram screws.

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