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Title: Stupid N00bs Post by ThumpinSquid on 10/04/06 at 11:12:43 Howdy all! I've been lurking here for about a month and a half, ever since I brought my 03 Savage home at the end of August. Gotta say, it's not hard to see why it's got such a huge following! While I'm no stranger to bikes, this was my jump from the dirt onto the pavement and it's been a fun learning experience! I picked this bike up from Cyclebarn down in Lynnwood WA for a song with 1200 miles on it. 1200 miles in 2 years and nary a scratch, ding or spec of dirt on it, so I consider myself pretty lucky. However, I'm under the inclination that the PO may have done something to it because it seems to have more huavos than some of you guys are mentioning about your bikes. Just for instance, I was jumping on the interstate at one of those controlled onramps with a light that lets one car go at a time, and I figured I'd check the 0-60 time. I was just using a watch wrapped around the handlebars bwteen the risers but it looks like it did it in just under 4 seconds and still in 3rd gear! Is that normal? I also did a friendly stoplight drag against a buddies Sportster 883 (only after a LOT of razzing and metric bashing mind you, I'm not a showoff and didn't buy a small cruiser to go fast. If that's what I wanted I would have got a sports bike), and it ate him like a twinkee. I thought this was kind of anomylous because I heard his tire sqweek off the line but I can't make mine scratch ( though I have to say I haven't tried to hard, it's still my baby). Now for the n00b questions. Do Harley handlebars fit? I want to get either tall bucks or mini apes to improve my ergonomics a bit, as well as a sportster seat and eventually some forward controls. Also, I got the backfires and don't really want to get rid of them. Everybody has a bike of somekind up here and kids love em. They cheer and wave at any bike that goes by, trying to get the sport bikes to do wheelies and stoppies, and trying to get the cruisers to rev up, and twisting the throttle and slamming it shut gives a shotgun pop that thrills the tikes. From previous experience I know that backfires can burn valves and blow up mufflers but has anyone left the backfire alone long enough to have either of these (or some other third problem) come about? That's all the dumb n00b questions for now. Oh yeah, mods. So far I've added a spitfire windscreen and some boulevard Saddlebags. I love this bike and hope to meet some of you guys for some brews or something when I get back from Vegas. My wife and I eloped, so now we're having a ceremony for the families...with an Elvis impersonator! Peace! Matt |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by Savage_Rob on 10/04/06 at 11:38:22 Welcome. The LS650 has a lot of low-end torque (expected from a big thumper) so she's quick off the line... but those HDs would have the extra power and top end speed you won't. The handlebars are 1". |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by PerrydaSavage on 10/04/06 at 13:00:37 A lot of owners here at suzukisavage.com (Welcome BTW ... I have an '03 too!!) have mod-ed their LS650's ... several have the Sportster seat mod (which looks killer!) and there are almost an endless variety of 1" handlebar (and riser combos) which will fit the Savage/S40 ... some here have done performance mods (Sportster/Dyna/Supertrap/Jardine muffler, re-jet, spacer shave, fuel-air mix adjust, etc, etc ...). And guys like Vroom and Sluggo (to name a couple) have Bobber-ised and Ratted their Thumpers into creations so unique that they border on being "art forms"!! You sound like you indeed have the "Right Stuff" to be a Savage owner ... Enjoy and Ride Safe! |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by ThumpinSquid on 10/04/06 at 15:30:52 Thanks ya'll. I love this little scoot and intend for it to grow with me, rather than grow out of it (but I guess time will tell). Comfort mods top my list of things to do it, because like many of the members here, I'm 6' and 200#. Most of my riding is on all the beautiful 2 lane hiways up here in the mountains, but I commute to bremerton and take the bike as often as possible to take advantage of the better gas milage over my Sonoma and Jeep cages. The only thing I've done to improve it's highway performance is I flushed out the crankcase and threw Royal Purple in there to protect against wear and keep the engine cooler at those interstate RPMs. I'm following the thread on swapping pulleys/switching to chain and sprockets closely. I could live with loosing some quickness in order to get the 70 mph RPMs down some. I knew the handlebars were 1" diameter cause the nice folks at bent bike (also down in Lynnwood) knew that I needed the 1" kit for my windscreen, but I wasn't sure if Harleys, or which Harleys had 1" handlebars. Biker's Choice, Jireh cycles and Bike Bandit as well as the stealership websites list there aftermarket handlebars by which Harley they are intended for, or at the least, lack a discription of the handlebar diameter, while they still show rise and pull back, etc. I'm on leave until the 20th, so I got some time to tinker... Thanks again for the fast reply Savage Rob, and for the warm welcome Perrydasavage, and I appologize, it's been so long since I been on a forum of any kind, that I forgot that folks like pics! Here's two from the day I got it home: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/Wagothing/Motorcycle4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/Wagothing/Savage1.jpg And here's one I just went and shop to show the windscreen and saddlebags: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/Wagothing/savage2.jpg |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by torque on 10/04/06 at 16:44:10 stupid noob,my 100 plus hp yammy fz6 does 0 to 60 in a little under 3.5 seconds in first gear ;) |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by luken on 10/04/06 at 19:12:23 If you are going for comfort I highly recommend the seat mod . I beleive there are more instructions in the tech forum, basically you rise the end under your crotch an in ch or so and it makes riding alot nicer. |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by georgekathe on 10/04/06 at 19:25:04 as a (relative - bought it in May) newcomer to the site & Savages I'd like to welcome you, Thumpinsquid. good people contribute & you will get a huge amount of help & ideas from it/them. :) |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by thumperclone on 10/04/06 at 19:37:12 no stupid questions here except the ones not asked.. 8) |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by ThumpinSquid on 10/04/06 at 20:10:43 torque wrote:
HAHA! So's your mom! :-/ Thanks again for the warm welcome George, I really like the site and the people who are on it, that's why I came out from lurking in the shadows and joined up. Nice people and nice bikes, what more do you need, right? thumperclone wrote:
Don't underestimate me, I can out-stupid just about anybody! Sometimes I suprise myself with how stupid I can be. ;D |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by sluggo on 10/04/06 at 21:16:12 ThumpinSquid wrote:
a trip to sluggo's table, and the dumpster. 8) welcome, and come on down. enjoy sluggo |
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Title: e: Stupid N00bs Post by georgekathe on 10/04/06 at 21:17:53 nice response, Thumpinsquid. and your mother's mother, torque! seems like 0-60 in first in 3.5 ain't much if Thumpinsquid can do 0-60 in 4 seconds & change gear twice in that time! are you sure you weren't more intent on impressing the 16 year old girls burning rubber off the back tire than actually going forward @ the time? agree with thumper clone, Thumpinsquid - no suh things as dumb questions (maybe dumb answers as you saw from torque, but...) ;D |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by sluggo on 10/04/06 at 22:31:19 now now boys, mama's are off limits, and as far as that goes, sisters too. now mother in laws. fair f'n game. ;D so torque, how'd ya break yer hand? one of the metacarpals? if you have a boxers break, theres a really good brace. |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by Oldfeller2 on 10/05/06 at 03:40:04 Click the gears sweetly on a 3/4 trottle power surge and you can be going 65-70 right quick-like, enough so to surprise most Harley riders who really can't do any better until you go past 70 mph (then they immediately eat your cake). I find that I have eaten up my rear tire over one summer. I theorize that rolling on quickly and using throttle braking instead of a lot of front wheel mechanical braking has resulted in some accelerated rear tire wear. Front tire is OK wear-wise, I don't have to brake heavily with the front brake unless somebody in front of me does something unexpected/stupid. This bike is fun, it is easy to ride up through its total capacity and it corners well and handles pretty well around the twisties. You can take lean angles that you know are going to kiss the pegs and you can lean back a bit coming out of those turns and hit the gas for a real traction bite and surge even though still at large lean angles. The drive belt -- mine is now no longer a virgin and it makes deceleration noise (a mild churrrrr noise) that you have to tighten the belt to factory gage maximum to make the decel noise go away. I theorize that belt wear results in rubber belt tooth to aluminum pulley tooth engagement that has a little bit of front to back clearance (thus the change in tone when accellerating to decelerating) Mild side wear on the outer edge of my belt is apparent as well, the belt settles in on the left side of the rear pulley eventually no matter how well you adjust it. I will order a set of new rubber bumpers for the inside of the rear wheel to match my first tire change -- I expect some wear has taken place on those surge bumpers as well. It is a fun bike. I can see why people who ride around town keep them long enough to modify them into personal creations. Oldfeller |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by barry68v10 on 10/05/06 at 04:01:01 Hey torque, my honda magna would definitely keep up with you 0-60... BTW, how much did you pay for the fz-6? ;) |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by Reelthing on 10/05/06 at 06:14:55 seems the insurance man holds out both hands on them as well - it's was one of the top 10 stolen bikes, can't remember if it was also a top 10 most likely to crash in the progressive insurance stats published last year - good ole savage was one of the least likely on both. oh yea, and welcome aboard there t'squid, you'll enjoy the bike a great deal, looks like you already are |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by Ed_L. on 10/05/06 at 06:22:13 Hey Old Fella, if the rear tire is a stock IRC then you can't expect much more than 5,000 miles or so out of it. Also think the continous pulsing of the big single puts more wear on the rear tire. That along with some WOT from stoplights takes it's toll on the rear rubber ;D, I enjoy the he11 out of my bike, glad to hear you do too. |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 10/05/06 at 13:15:04 / ThumpinSquid wrote:
What is the title of the thread you are talking about? |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by barry68v10 on 10/05/06 at 13:45:09 OK_Mike, he's talking about the belt pulley thread. I think we concluded (I haven't pulled the case to verify) that a sprocket/chain swap for the belt drive was the only cost effective option... |
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Title: Re: e: Stupid N00bs Post by torque on 10/05/06 at 15:32:45 georgekathe wrote:
thats why i said he's full of bs. the savage does 0 to 60 in 5 seconds in second gear.in 5 seconds on my bike im doing 92 in second gear. if u didnt notice already i'm just here to snif out bullsh!t. it cost 6,200 before tax. if u can beat a v-max u might be able to hang with me.what have u done to it?bored and stroked,nitrous? my neighbor has one and its pretty slow, my dads 1200 sporty can stop it,and the sporty is no competion for me. |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by SavageDude on 10/05/06 at 17:44:55 Ed_L. wrote:
Not true ::) Mine have close to 4,000 miles and still look like brand new tire--tons of tread left. Must be the way people ride and stop their bikes ??? |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by barry68v10 on 10/05/06 at 18:48:04 Oh, sorry torque. I didn't realize you didn't really know much about drag racing. Chech out this site and educate yourself, then come back and talk to me... http://www.dragtimes.com/1997-Honda-Magna-Pictures-4315.html |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by torque on 10/06/06 at 03:43:30 ok,i race every weekend at jefferson/pageland raceway.on those time sheets the magna lost every single race.i saw it was slightly faster too 60 feet.i am talking about 0 to 60 miles per hour. |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 10/06/06 at 05:33:47 barry68v10 wrote:
Tanks! 8) |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by azjay on 10/06/06 at 06:51:16 ThumpinSquid wrote:
welcome t'squid, i'm assuming from your logon, that you're currently employed in uncle sam's canoe club? i did six years, and spent three of those on a spruance class destroyer, of that 1 year in the yards in west seattle. anyway to the bars, i have a set of harley bars on my wifes savage. they fit fine, you'll notice that the splines dont line up to the clamps perfectly, but that hasn't been a problem. i think all harley bars are 1", as i have 1 1/4" fat bars on my harley, but they're still 1" at the clamps. i dont have any real idea which model her bars came from, i just bought a used set from my local chopper shop ($10) that were more comfortable than suzuki's excuse for pull backs. dennis kirk is one of my favorite venders, free catalogs, free shipping on orders over $100, only $6 for orders less than $100. |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by Savage_Rob on 10/06/06 at 08:49:26 Three years on a Spru-can, huh? Mine was five years on Knox class frigates. |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by barry68v10 on 10/06/06 at 12:40:18 torque, it was faster than a gsxr 750 to 1000 feet even though the gsxr speed was significantly faster, do you know why? |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by barry68v10 on 10/06/06 at 12:45:53 Oh yeah, and the V-max beat the Gsxr750 in the 1/4... |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by barry68v10 on 10/06/06 at 13:47:15 In fact, from the r6 time sheets I could find, it looks like an r6 is about .1 sec faster than a magna in 1/4 mile. I conceded the 1/4 but didn't realize the r6 was so slow... ;) |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by sluggo on 10/06/06 at 14:02:49 my pappy once told me, "liars can figure, and figures can lie" a drag race is all about the rider/driver. i've seen many many cars/bikes that are outclassed just whoop the superior machine. so unless all the machines being timed where ridden by the same rider the numbers mean nothing. |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by thumperclone on 10/06/06 at 19:01:10 sluggo wrote:
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by barry68v10 on 10/07/06 at 17:07:00 Sluggo, not trying to be argumentative here, but for your statement to be true, it must be true in ALL cases. I'll take your statement to the extreme to test it, just fpr the sake of illustration. Would you put a pa-50 moped up against a Yamaha v-max in a quarter mile? Does the moped have any chance at all regardless of rider skill? Obviously numbers DO mean something lest we dumb this down to the point that none of us can speak english, only grunt... ::) |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by sluggo on 10/07/06 at 18:15:46 clearly, i was't speaking of a match up like you mentioned, i was talking about machines that are in the same class. i once had a vw that i beat everybody with, that is off the line and across the intersection. :o i've spent my whole life on the racing scene. crew, track official, announcer. even drove a few races. the fact is numbers work for basic comparision, but won't determine who will win a race. a moped could beat the machine you mention, ie. redlight. loss of traction. wrecking. all factors in winning a race. i still stand by "liars can figure, and figures can lie" take enron, tyco, ect. |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by barry68v10 on 10/07/06 at 18:54:11 Super! My point exactly..."machines that are in the same class." I was pointing out that the R6 and magna were "in the same class" not a "moped vs. vmax" race like torque implied. Glad we're on the same page. :) |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by ThumpinSquid on 10/09/06 at 19:03:22 Thanks again everybody! Azjay, you guessed right, I'm at my 10 year mark, did 5 on AOE-1 (USS Sacramento), 3 years recruiting out in Colorado and now I'm on the mighty fighting USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72). Lurking the forums ponied up another little gem, I've rotated my buckhorns foward a good 20-25 degrees and no longer feel the need for mini apes just yet. I took a picture of my wife on the bike after the rotation but I'll wait for her to upload all the pics before I post that. We got a ton on there because we just got back from our wedding ceremony in Vegas. Aside from that, Sluggo, you got it. No more "Torques momma" jokes. I don't wanna get banned before my 3rd post, and thanks for a warning rather than just booting me. Thanks again everybody, I look forward to the time when I'll be the guy with the answers. ;) Matt |
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Title: Re: Stupid N00bs Post by ThumpinSquid on 10/09/06 at 19:53:14 She takes too long, here yuh go. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/Wagothing/Anniesavage.jpg |
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