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Message started by Chestnut on 09/05/06 at 14:40:04

Title: Kickstarting for an S40?
Post by Chestnut on 09/05/06 at 14:40:04

Does anyone know if it's possible to bolt up a kickstarter from a DR650 or some such to an S40?

I really miss kickstarting. It's so anticlimactic to gear up, throw a leg over your bike, and then push a button... :-[

Title: Re: Kickstarting for an S40?
Post by thumperclone on 09/05/06 at 16:50:02

would guess you would have to rig up for the compression release also.. i dont miss kick start

Title: Re: Kickstarting for an S40?
Post by Brewbrother on 09/05/06 at 18:01:29

Its been discussed in the group before. Do a search and read the thread. The consensus was that suzuki did make a kit for kick start for the ls650. It was expensive, at around $2000. That it would be difficult and possibly cause you injury depending on if you kicked it off at other than TDC. I do understand how you feel. My previous bike was electric and kick start and I always kicked it off. I do believe is says your bike is well maintained and tuned up if you can kick start it on the first try. I derived a great deal of pleasure kick starting my CB.

Title: Re: Kickstarting for an S40?
Post by vroom1776 on 09/06/06 at 12:27:50

mean this one (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RubberSideDown;action=display;num=1135126657;start=)?

Title: Re: Kickstarting for an S40?
Post by Chestnut on 09/07/06 at 01:47:23

Hmmm....

Thanks guys. I have to wonder why the kickstart kit would be so expensive. I thought the ls650 was based on the dr650, and that was kickstart untill this year, and the dealer said they could put one on still.

Oh well. I'm not spending that kind of money, so I guess i'll use the button until inspiration hits on a night when my friends are all available and we start cutting metal...

Nobody hold their breath.

Title: Re: Kickstarting for an S40?
Post by vroom1776 on 09/07/06 at 10:55:26

1990 DR 650SL kickstarter:

http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/assets/schematics/Suzuki/SU0027_019.gif

1997 LS 650PV savage starter motor:

http://www.bikebandit.com/PartsBandit/Assets/schematics/Suzuki/SU0145_020.gif

it says "see note" ?? can't find it yet...

I also looked at the "magnetos." They look about the same, but who knows? The prices ARE not the same... dr about $200 more.

Title: Re: Kickstarting for an S40?
Post by vroom1776 on 09/07/06 at 10:58:11

Here's what it says:

Model Year: 1997
Manufacturer: Suzuki
Model: LS650PV SAVAGE
Schematic: STARTING MOTOR (SEE NOTE)
Description: 1997 Suzuki LS650PV-Updated STARTING MOTOR (SEE NOTE)

Title: Re: Kickstarting for an S40?
Post by vroom1776 on 09/07/06 at 11:09:25

Anyway,

The savage also has a starter clutch, with a 1-way gear (I believe), which I bet many old kick-only-folks would've appreciated. Then mating it to the crank case may also be rather tricky... look at they way the savage's starter motor is buried in the crank case, esp the way it come "up" at the edge.

on a slightly related note, there must be soem way to search Bert Heise's old forum. If I click on an old link I have, this one to bert's old forum (http://www.heise-workstations.de/ls650/Fragen/messages/46260.html), the proper page comes up...
so it iseems the info is still there... just not easily accesible.

link: http://www.heise-workstations.de/ls650/Fragen/messages/46260.html

so, if you start playing w/ that number at the end, you get different posts... I found one on the squeeky belt! :)

And who speaks (types) german? Those dudes are doing all sorts of trick stuff w/ their savages! maybe they know how to do it...

V

Title: Re: Kickstarting for an S40?
Post by Bugscraper on 09/07/06 at 13:41:46

[quote author=vroom1776 link=board=RubberSideDown;num=1157492404;start=0#7 date=09/07/06 at 11:09:25]

there must be soem way to search Bert Heise's old forum. If I click on an old link I have, this one to bert's old forum (http://www.heise-workstations.de/ls650/Fragen/messages/46260.html), the proper page comes up...
so it iseems the info is still there... just not easily accesible.

The forum backup URL is working:
http://www.heise-workstations.de/ls650/Fragen/LS650-Fragen-backup.html