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Title: Morning Runs Post by lancer on 08/20/06 at 19:23:36 I have been trying to ride most every morning lately, weather permitting, and have been able to gather some performance data during those rides. The data was collected by the Veypor on my bike and these numbers are generated by downloading the Veypor info into my PC and running it through the program provided by the company which analyzes that data and puts it into a usable form. It has taken me a while to learn how to use the program, but I am finally getting it down. However, I still do not know how to take the graphs directly from my computer and put them on a website, so for now I am doing this by hand. The following are 4 sample runs, 2 are 0-60 mph runs and 2 are 1/4 mile runs. 1. 0-60 run: time= 4.8710 sec max hp= 44.9533 hp max tq= 42.8096 ft-lbs 2. 0-60 run: time= 5.1784 sec max hp= 41.9000 hp max tq= 37.3595 ft-lbs 3. 1/4 mi run: ( 0-60 ) time= 5.1638 sec max hp= 40.9133 hp max tq= 34.6532 ft-lbs max vel= 86.6252 mph time= 14.3430 sec 4. 1/4 mi run: ( 0-60 ) time= 5.3654 sec max hp= 40.9733 hp max tq= 42.1284 ft-lbs max vel= 86.1219 mph time= 14.4659 sec These runs were done on different road sections and with various carb settings. I will be gathering more data using a common road and with fixed carb settings in order to remove those variables. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by Dragon King on 08/21/06 at 09:04:08 very nice. thanks for sharing info. how long before we see a 100 mph in 1/4 mile ??? |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by vroom1776 on 08/21/06 at 09:16:33 Good work. I assume you are "launching" for the runs? |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by lancer on 08/21/06 at 10:38:34 Yes, these were standing start launches. 100 mph in the 1/4 mi ? It will need to be a lot perkier before that happens. Also, with the added power the stock clutch is beginning to slip noticeably at the launch and when hitting 2nd gear. I almost went over backward on one launch when I lost control of the clutch for fraction of a second ... that was a thrill.... The power of the engine continues to increase as I get closer to the best carb settings. I am confident that 50 hp is attainable without further internal engine mod's. With higher compression, better flowing intake/exhaust ports, and an improved ignition system, 60 hp may be within reach. Good usuable torque would also increase as well. At that point some hard core work on the clutch would need to be done so it would be able to hold it all together. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by PA KID on 08/21/06 at 11:35:26 Way cool,any plans for NOS? |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by lancer on 08/21/06 at 14:32:19 NOS is not needed. There is plenty of virgin muscle available without it. PA KID wrote:
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by verslagen1 on 10/16/06 at 21:41:10 I'm trying to install the Veypor on my stock bike (so far) and I'm having an issue with the tach. :-/ No readings at all. I've tried both sides of the coil with the white wire. And several config settings. ???How's yours setup? Any help would be appreciated. ;D |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by Rockin_John on 10/20/06 at 06:42:35 lancer wrote:
Lancer, I don't know whether your trouble with getting the graphs is getting your program to save to a file that can be uploaded, or if you don't know how to upload to a web server; but I can help with either problem. If your program doesn't provide a way for you to save the output to a graphic/photo file like a .jpg or a .gif, you can capture whatever is on your computer screen by pressing the "PrtScn" button. It is the first button of the three to the right of your function keys (F1, F2, etc...) on most keyboards. Once you have pressed the PrtScn button, the whole image exactly as on your monitor is saved to the Windows "clipboard" and can then be "pasted" into any imaging software program by using the Ctrl+V shortcut keys. (I like the free program Irfanview for working with images, but you can just use Windows 'paint' prog.) Remember these handy shortcuts: Crtl+X = Cut Crtl+C = Copy Crtl+V = Paste Now, once you have what was on your screen in a program that can save it as a .jpg or .GIF you can upload it to bikepics, or your personal web space usually provided with any ISP account. Failing that, if you (or anyone else) want to send me pictures via email attachment, that is ok, as I have quite a lot of space and bandwidth on my paid server space which has no annoying popups. If I've just explained a bunch of stuff to you that you already know, my apologies. Maybe someone else will find the info useful. BTW, thanks for taking a lead on pressing the performance edge of the Savage. I'm not sure how far I will go with mine, but one of my attractions to the bike was it's untapped potential in both performance and individualized style. All at a fraction of the cost of what many riders spend on their cycles. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by lancer on 10/20/06 at 08:41:20 Sorry for the delay, we have been very busy of late. I will check my hookup and take a pic for you. verslagen1 wrote:
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by lancer on 10/20/06 at 08:43:20 Quote:
Thanks for the help. I did not know how to do that before so this is good info for me. I will give it a try a bit later when I have more time. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by verslagen1 on 10/20/06 at 11:54:55 I broke down and re-read the manual, and using my limited intelegence set all the settings as pictured in the manual and it worked! :o I had purchased the unit used and was lead to believe that it all worked. I don't know how it worked with circuit:0 filter:0 multiplier:0 |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by luken on 10/20/06 at 12:30:02 Here is a graph that shows your numbers...kinda quick but it works. http://bethandre.com/chart.xls |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by lancer on 10/20/06 at 19:37:00 I need to get Microsoft Excel so I can see some of this stuff without all the hassle. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by luken on 10/21/06 at 07:15:18 http://localhostr.com/files/e0dad0c9781dafd5b384.jpg |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by Savage_Rob on 10/21/06 at 12:56:27 lancer wrote:
Or download OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org/) for free. Calc would be the spreadsheet app. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by lancer on 10/21/06 at 17:13:00 So this "Open Office" will do the job of MS Excel? I will give it a try ... thanks. Note the values on the graph where the torque #'s are way out in left field. This set of #'s was from a few runs prior to the time when I had use of the "VAS" program from the Veypor folks which takes the raw #'s from the Veypor unit and crunches them into an accurate picture of what the machine is actually doing. Speeds and times are of course accurate as is, but the HP and TQ values have to go through the VAS program in order to be accurate. The raw data has about 3 or 4 different hp/tq values that need to be run through a set of formula's to end up with the final, and accurate, values. Testing of the Veypor unit has shown it to be accurate to within 1-3% of a shop dyno. FUN STUFF !! ;D |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by 911radioman on 10/21/06 at 17:47:44 Open Office is the equivalent of Microsoft Office and it is a super package. I use it myself. I have a fundamental problem with giving Bill Gates any more of my money than I have to! |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by Steve530 on 10/21/06 at 18:22:11 The third and fourth set of torque numbers on thr graph are actually the speed at 1/4 mile. When you replace those, thr numbers look pretty good. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by lancer on 10/22/06 at 06:14:37 Steve530 wrote:
Thanks for helping me to have a clear mind ... that is a big job. ;D |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by lancer on 10/22/06 at 06:15:20 911radioman wrote:
Thanks ... and ditto. ;) |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by Savage_Rob on 10/22/06 at 11:31:28 911radioman wrote:
The primary thing missing would be that it doesn't provide an email/PIM like Outlook. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by mickthelimey on 10/22/06 at 16:04:22 I used to get morning runs,so I quit drinking prune juice :-[ |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by sluggo on 10/22/06 at 16:38:29 Savage_Rob wrote:
i've got a great free pim called esentiall pim i keep it on my jump drive and can plug into any computer to use it. sweet. and it import/exports to outlook. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by Savage_Rob on 10/22/06 at 18:34:29 And Mozilla Thunderbird is a very good free email client. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by Fido_the_Cat on 10/22/06 at 19:11:22 Once you get to Firefox and download Open Office you will find plenty of desktop add ons to ...... I found most of them to be timekillers, although I used some for awhile. The only one I kept was the weather advisor. Open Office you will find is very useful and very free. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by spike on 10/22/06 at 22:17:52 Now you said you are using varios carb settings what are they and are you going to post that sweet setting when you find it? :P |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by Steve530 on 10/23/06 at 19:08:07 Here's a graph of the HP and 0-60 MPH Time as a function of torque. http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h210/Steve530/savage.jpg |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by lancer on 10/23/06 at 20:20:42 spike wrote:
I will resume the effort but it may be a while. My bike was down for clutch slippng and plug leaking, I got it back together but have a issue of some sort so it needs to come back apart I fear. But it will be several weeks before I can get back to it. We are leaving for about 2 weeks on Saturday. |
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Title: Re: Morning Runs Post by spike on 10/25/06 at 04:16:25 Good luck getting the problem corrected, have a good trip and look forward to your futher research in the future :D |
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