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Title: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by WKD on 07/18/06 at 19:32:14 Question for everyone: What style do you prefer? Which are more comfortable? Comments? I have an '86 with the stock flat bars and I was thinking of changing them out. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by necropsy on 07/18/06 at 20:13:33 I've never tried the buckhorn. Prefer flat bars for looks, but the risers are too tall. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by Paladin on 07/18/06 at 22:01:42 I've not tried the flat bars but I like the pull backs. On the other hand, WD said something along the lines of once you've tried apes you'll never go back. Just riding along I tried holding my hands about eight inches above my pullbacks and I liked the position. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by HawkEye1967 on 07/19/06 at 01:04:40 I have a 86 with drag bars, I like that style better, but it is choice only. to go from pull backs to drag bars, you just need the bar, to go from drag to pull back you must replace all the cables as they are too short for the pullbacks. (open to correction, but this is my understanding) ;D |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by klx650sm2002 on 07/19/06 at 02:44:54 Flats on risers. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by Al_ironman on 07/19/06 at 03:51:39 Pullbacks. Seem to fit me better. And, call me old fashioned, but I just like the look a little better. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by Savage_Rob on 07/19/06 at 07:19:42 I recently added the 36" wide drag bars with pullback risers and I am truly sold on them. They are extremely comfortable. My arms aren't flat at my sides anymore which allows better airflow and comfort all the way around. Also, the mirrors are set wider and allow for greater adjustment and visibility. http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006/07/25/bikepics-641546-800.jpg http://w1.bikepics.com/pics/2006/07/25/bikepics-641550-800.jpg |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by SeeAPierce on 07/19/06 at 11:48:42 I have an '06 with the stock drag bars, but recently swapped out for Sportster bars. I found the stock drag bars a bit short and my hands wanted to be further apart. I kept finding myself holding on with two fingers on each side. So far I like the slightly wider HD bars better... |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by Savage Librarian on 07/19/06 at 14:04:57 If I have to choose between the flat or buckhorns...I'd go with buckhorns. It feels more natural to me. That being said... ...I prefer my 15" apes. Maybe a bit less practical. Definately more of a police magnet. But roomy feeling. That and you simply feel cool with apes. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by bikingb on 07/19/06 at 14:26:31 Had the buckhorns on the 2002. Have the flats on the 2006. Definitely like the flat bars more. I do think it is a personal preference kind of thing though. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/19/06 at 16:01:09 I recently posted on this very topic in another Thread ... own an '03 LS with the stock bucks and "low" risers ... Rode an '05 S40 with the stock dracks and pull-back risers a few weeks ago ... Night and Day! ... the S40 was more comfortable and handled more "crisply" ... I attributed this to the drag bar/pull-back riser combo of the S40. |
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Title: e: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by georgekathe on 07/19/06 at 16:57:07 Hi - George the new person really getting in his 2 cents today - (already) replied to mag wheels question!) Maybe it is because I'm English so I am not big on "buckhorns," "mini-apehangers," call them what you will (though I had them on my first bike when I came to the US - a Harley "clone" - a Honda Shadow). However, never liked the really narrow flat bars "stock" older British bikes are often depicted with either. My & my wife's used '96 (obviously) came with pullbacks, so I virtually immediately changed them to something more my liking. Don't know brand (cost around $40) as bought from huge catalog in local bike store after holding up a bunch of bars they had in stock against the bike. If this helps, they are about 31" across (I like the width, though not too much, as I find it really helps with swinging the bike through the turns) They bolt straight on where the pullbacks would go, giving about 3" of lift from their lowest point to the highest at their "reach" (measuring from center to center of the bar). It gives me a bit of a lean forwards, but not too much, (nothing like straight bars without any risers!!!), putting some weight over the front wheel, which I think does not hurt at all. Have not been on a long distance yet so can't say what it would be like as far as strain on your back (something many proponents of pullbacks state as a reason for their preferences). Oh - cables/lines do not need changing when going from pullbacks to these bars, though when I order my steel brake line I might get an inch or 2 less - just to neaten things up. However, the metal curved part of the throttle adjustment on the cable did rub on the tank the first time I put the bars on full lock, so I wrapped the bare metal in tape to stop risking scraped paint. After all is said & done, however, I can agree with another writer - much is up to the individual - I suggest you do as I - go to a store & sit on the bike with various bars to hold (if you are lucky enough to have such an "old style" bike store in your town that does carry parts other than for specific makes/models). Down the road, as I get better @ replying to this site will try to post picture of the bars on the bike. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by Maverick on 07/19/06 at 19:45:05 Have an 87, took the drags off put on mini bucks and love the difference. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by steelwolf on 07/19/06 at 19:48:58 I went from buckhorns to stock drag bars and the only change I'll make from here will be if I ever decide to break over the funds for the 16"-18" apes and the cables and hoses. I like the flat bars alot. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by serowbot on 07/20/06 at 01:05:18 Much like the three little bears tale... I found the pullbacks a little awkward and a strain at high speed to hold myself upright, the drags a bit narrow for turning control. I got some used harley dyna bars (much like a 60's flat tracker) and they felt just right. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by Island_Biker on 07/20/06 at 10:38:58 My 2 cents: Mine came with the pullbacks, and I'm comfortable. I'd vote for sitting on different bikes before spending much money on a different set of bars - unless you've already driven lots and have a perferred style. Back to the three bears - Mamma, Pappa, & Baby each liked their own bed. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by Savage_Rob on 07/20/06 at 11:26:46 Yeah, I think I spent $40 on the pullback risers, $30 to $35 on the 36" drag bars and about $5 for the BBs I filled the bars with. Overall, with tax and shipping and such - about $100. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by DianeS. on 07/20/06 at 16:02:57 My 2000 savage came with pullback handle bars and they seem to work pretty well for me. I must say that since I'm used to the look of the pullback handle bars, the flat ones just look odd to me. If apes are the very high handle bars that I've seen some people use, I would imagine my arms getting tired of being so high - but I could be wrong? Certainly the bikers on OCC seem to like the higher bars. Do think it comes down to personal preference - and I've only used the one type. DianeS |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/21/06 at 01:17:46 Well, here's another $0.02 ... after riding the '05 S40 with the drag bars ans liking it so much, I right away set about rotating my buck-horn bars so that the grips now ride about an inch or so higher than the factory set position ... and it has made a world of difference to the Bikes handling (still not quite as crisp as the S40, but much, much better than before ...). My arms are now a little straighter and my elbows are not as "tucked in" ... makes it easier to countersteer ... and my cornering has improved greatly! ;D |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by eglidegirl on 07/21/06 at 06:39:11 Hey Savage_Rob - Since I'm really new to this, can you explain why you filled your bars with BB's and what would happen if you left them hollow? Appreciate it. Laurie |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by eglidegirl on 07/21/06 at 06:47:50 For the group... I like the style of the bars on my 2006 S40 and they fit pretty well for the most part, except I really feel they should be about 4 inches wider for me. Last night I sat on it, slid my hands outward on the grips and I really think I need a wider set of bars. Anyone know how wide the stock bars are (I shoulda measured last night duh). I'd like to do some inet shopping today to see what I can find out there. Also, if I go for wider drag bars, will I need the pullback risers too? Can anyone tell me what these do for you in the handling department? i.e. wider drags without pullbacks as opposed to with? Thanks much! |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by Savage_Rob on 07/21/06 at 07:38:03 eglidegirl wrote:
I'd heard from some folks that it would reduce vibration. Recently I've read a number of other posts that say they do fine without it but I think it's making a difference for me. I filled it with BBs and then sealed them in with epoxy. Anyway, that's the intent. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by Ed_L. on 07/21/06 at 12:10:00 The idea behind loading the handle bars with lead shot or weights is to keep them from resonating at different engine RPMs. The extra weight acts as a dampener to the handle bar. A lot depends on the handle bar length, wall thickness and way it is mounted, way to complicated for me. Plus the weight out on the end of the handle bars act a bit like a tight rope walker's ballancing pole. I've been using a sportster, clubman style handle bar instead of the stock pullbacks. The sportster style has only 2 1/2" rise and just clears the tank. It is also 31 1/2 inches long which makes a big difference with my long gorilla length arms. I disliked the stock pullback bars from the git-go cause of the angle you had to hold your hands, didn't like the fact that I had to bend my wrist at a funny angle. It's all about comfort for the rider and what's good for me might not work for you. ;D |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by geo on 07/25/06 at 21:08:32 I love my 2002 Handle Bars. |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/26/06 at 01:23:12 Just yesterday I had an opportunity to sit on an '87 LS650 that had been retro-fitted with the standard Sportster handlebar mounted on the stock shorty buckhorn clamps ... as previous poster stated, at full lock, they just barely clear the tank ... but do they ever feel comfortable! Hopefully, I'll get a chance to Ride this Bike in the near future and I'll be able to compare with the standard bucks and the drag/riser combo! |
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Title: Re: Pullbacks vs Flat Post by azjay on 07/26/06 at 07:00:53 i rode debby's '96 home the night we bought it, that was the MOST miserable 7miles on a motorcycle in my life! the stock suzuki pullbacks were wretched! i replaced them with stock harley pullbacks on the stock suzuki risers, that set them at a much more natural feel, flatter and wider. i have a set of phat beach bars on 4" riser on my HD, the width is good for my monkey arms, the risers have digested two sets of mounting grommets (too much leverage from the bars), but they feel good to me. i started riding dirt bikes in the 70's and i'm sure that has influenced what i like to feel, and debby has ridden atv's for 20 years, so that is where her feel comes from. it is a matter of what you get used too. |
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