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Message started by bobtreat on 06/25/06 at 17:01:59

Title: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by bobtreat on 06/25/06 at 17:01:59

I'm a do it yourself guy,So today to save a couple bucks
the wife and i attemped to change the front tire.Sounds easy enough,changed car,truckand even tractor tires.
Well metzeler tires are tough >:(I mean tough!Not thin and flimbsy like the IRC we took off.Two hours later with a lot of gruntin we got it on ;D Only to have air woosh out as fast as it went in :'( Made the phone call to our scooter mechanic.Gotta wait till tomorrow for a new tube.I think i over tightened the valvestem nut.We'll see when he gets it off :-/Any thoughts??

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by Paladin on 06/25/06 at 17:38:31

Other than bicycles I've not mounted a tire. And from what you post I think I'll pass and let those experienced in the art do it for me.

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by sluggo on 06/25/06 at 22:16:40

p,

that's the way i've done it for years

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by WD on 06/26/06 at 00:33:01

I change motorcycle tires everyday. Nothing to it. Pull the valve core, deflate tire, and run through the bead breaker. Clamp in tire machine. Grunt, swear, cut through the tread with my sawsall because the tire has no flex left. Dismount sad carcass. Cuss some more because I forgot to remove the stem nut on the tube and yanked the tube (sans stem) into a zillion little dry rotted pieces. Or got the tire machine stuck in the tube and holed it.

Goop up the new tire's beads and the wheel hoop with rim ease (fancy name for dish soap). Install the first half of the tire. Cuss, fight, throw the 600 pound tire machine across the shed trying to install that new tube in the hole. Install the second half of the tire.

I can change a big rig tire in 15-20 minutes. A car tire the same. A Kenda cheapie on a Kawasaki or similar cast wheel? 5 minutes, including balancing. A Metzeler or Kings on a spoked wheel? Anywhere from 10 minutes to 6 hours... :o
-WD

I hate changing tires, but, I'm the best person at it in my shop...

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by bobtreat on 06/26/06 at 13:38:12

All done new tube mounted tire and balanced cost a woppin $12.20.Sometimes it just dose'nt pay to be a do it yourselfer!!!!!

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by 911radioman on 06/26/06 at 17:03:45

I let the boys at the bike shop deal with my tires. Couldn't pay me enough to mess with those things...

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by klx650sm2002 on 06/27/06 at 03:17:57

Bike shop allways fit my tyre's too, it's cheaper on tubes.

Clive W :D

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by lancer on 06/27/06 at 04:14:07

I got a new rear tire a few months back on ebay, thought of doing it myself, called the local helpful dealer to inquire about new tube and cost to mount/balance ... they said about $36. Hmmmmmm, I thought. That sounds like a good deal, so I take it in... it's late in the day so I pick it up the next morning ... but is the bill $36 ?? No, it is less. Icannot remember the exact amount but it was somewhere around $26-28 I think.
Hmmm, I think. For once I made the right decision the first time. YEAH ME !!!! ;D ;D

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by Reelthing on 06/27/06 at 06:35:14

The folks used one of these on the last tire change - always seemed a little tight with the rear short spokes, this makes it easier
http://mccserv.com/savage/stem.jpg

Title: re, jacking up the bike
Post by mickthelimey on 07/01/06 at 02:16:07

I know our Savages do NOT have a center stand,why they don't put them on I shall never know.
Any way what do you guys do to remove the belt drive?
I also notice a bracket slightly aft of midships,my question is,can I use a jack on that spot to lift my bike without bending it? any one have any better ideas?
Mick the Limey

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by Banger on 07/01/06 at 04:50:25

Reelthing wrote:

The folks used one of these on the last tire change - always seemed a little tight with the rear short spokes, this makes it easier
http://mccserv.com/savage/stem.jpg

Dude, I would KILL sometimes to have a valvestem like that. The only gas station in my town that has free air has a long big-rig style head on the air hose, so I can't air up there. I have to take the Zook down to my parents' house and borrow their air compressor. And to get an accurate pressure, of course, I have to let the bike sit for an hour or more so the tires cool before checking and airing.

Anyway, on a slightly related note, I had my first flat on my new Trek bicycle yesterday and attempted to patch it. No-can-do. I was fairly amazed at myself being able to figure out the procedure for removing the tire and everything, and even in putting it back on the rim, but I just couldn't get the patches to hold-- and that was with the rubber cement supplied in the patch kit! Sometimes, it's better to just buy a new tube and move on with your life.

I'm looking into a company called Air-Free Tires for my next set of bicycle tires. As the name implies, no air is used for their tires. And they supposedly ride remarkably similar to pneumatic tires, according to most people I know who have used them. The idea wouldn't work on the Savage, I'm afraid, but I look forward to trying them out on my Trek one day.

Regards,
Banger
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Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by 911radioman on 07/01/06 at 11:30:33

Yep, those right angle stems are sweet. I had one installed when I replaced my rear tire this spring. 8)

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by MacAttack on 07/06/06 at 09:29:55

Air-free tires...

In the dirt bike world, there are two solutions - mousse tubes (foam tubes) and Tire Balls (foam balls). Both are expensive and a PITA to install. But I don't see why that can't be done on the street side.
I want 1% royalty :D

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by cstout on 07/06/06 at 12:14:36

MacAttack wrote:

I think they are not good on the street due to the lack of cushioning that is provided by a pneumatic tire. They probably wouldn't corner very well, either, because the tire wouldn't form itself to the road as well.

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by WD on 07/06/06 at 22:19:03

Mick, I either jack up the bike at that bracket you mention, or use a board on the floor jack. Haven't messed it up yet, and my Savage has spent a good part of the last 8 months on a jack.

Oh, and it is definitely worth the extra $3 a tube for the 90 degree stems. For ANY motorcycle wheel.
-WD

Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by Banger on 07/07/06 at 04:49:34

cstout wrote:

Yeah, you're talking about making a relatively fat motorcycle tire go airless. I dunno how well that would work, but my gut instinct says "not very."

It seems to have been conquered, almost, for bicycle tires. I'm e-mailing the Air-Free company today to see if they have a tire to fit my Trek's rims. That would beat worrying so much about having to fix flats at the roadside.

Regards,
Banger
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Title: Re: Do it yourself (FLAT TIRE)
Post by zbiker on 07/09/06 at 17:55:51

That`s the second post I see about flat tires
Doing it is easy (relativily speaking) if you are near facilities have it done it`s faster. Get use doing it for those occasions when you`re stuck in the middle of nowhere on a long trip,wich mean carrying spare tube for front and back wheel, tire iron and a mean to inflate either air or co2 bottle with valve or even a can of fix a flat. Do not fix the flat on a tube with fix a flat but inflate a new tube so you can roll. ;)