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Message started by pgolden on 03/14/06 at 07:17:46

Title: Kickstand
Post by pgolden on 03/14/06 at 07:17:46

I am bidding on a kickstand on E-bay. When I replaced my shocks, it raised the bike about 2". I am going to add 2" to the kickstand and paint it black, if I get it. I feel like the bike leans over to far like it is. I have  wood blocks stashed at the golf course by my cart shed and another one on the parking lot at work, at present.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by SirWilhelm on 03/14/06 at 19:02:31

I got one of the regulation hockey pucks and it seems to raise mine just the right amount (not too vertical, but not looking like it is about to fall over. I tried JB Weld, I tried Gorilla Glue and I have not got a bond yet. Any suggestions on gluing the rubber puck to the foot of the kick stand.
I LOVE MY New Progressives!


Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by sluggo on 03/14/06 at 21:03:42

try a plastic bonder.  it comes in 2 part and designed to work on plastic and rubber

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by Kropatchek on 03/15/06 at 03:15:06

Drill a hole in the foot of the kickstand. Drill through the puck, reverse the puck drill a larger hole about halfway trough to take a nut and bolt the puck and stand together.
Jus my 2 bits

Greetz
Kropatchek ;D

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by Savage_Rob on 03/15/06 at 06:55:57

I like that idea but I'll have to find someplace that sells hockey pucks.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by SirWilhelm on 03/15/06 at 09:00:21

Hockey pucks:
Big 5 here had a dozen or so in their street and other hockey supplies. Acacdemy had zip. Walmart I couldn't find anything in the way of hockey. Maybe in bigger city.
Gorilla Glue should have done it. It sticks to the puck but not the metal of the stand. I am about to go drill hole, which I had tried to avoid. Oh well. If it doesn't work it's just something else to whistle while I'm riding.
Thermometer says 70 but the winds are up again at 10-20. and cool.
Thanks for input.
Bill
WTx

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by pgolden on 03/15/06 at 18:56:11

I'm afraid the hockey puck might look like a hockey puck. I'm a CHROME FREAK so if I get the kickstand, I might just try to weld a peice on the bottom before I cut and paint.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by SirWilhelm on 03/15/06 at 19:13:07

Actually the puck doesn't look too bad. I put a 10mm hole (the same as the bolts for the seat at the front) thru foot and the puck, countersunk the underside/washer-bolt and then lock washer under the nut on the top. Gives a pointy point sticking up, but it catches the boot nicer when I try to lift the kickstand.
May put something else on it. I guess you could always take the finished puck and spray it chrome colored.
It would probably melt in one of the vats they dip stuff to chrome them in (like the guys who make your baby boots into chrome/bronze ones for keepsakes).
There are other ways to get stuff chromed without the hot dip, so that is also a possible route. But the puck doesn't slide like other stuff does, so the underside needs to be natural.
Would someone in the east push some rain out this way. We are bone dry, just like we were in the 50's.
Bill
WTx


Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by sluggo on 03/15/06 at 19:41:59

i use something called the cycle foot  it's a foot shaped peice of plastic.  i got it at the dealer  some guys were checking it out wondering what it does, as they were hung by the key chains.  i say yeah but if i put it on my key chain  then my keys lay on the ground under the kick stand. counter guy flips one over to me and say  no charge,  

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by Savage_Rob on 03/16/06 at 06:43:18

From what I can tell on the Cycle Foot, it's a base for keeping it from sinking (another alternative to the crushed beer can) but it wouldn't provide the added height to offset the accentuated lean caused by using higher shocks.
http://store.valueaccessories.net/ProductImages/mustang/CycleFoot.JPG

Even if it did, I'm gonna try the hockey puck idea since I ordered several online yesterday.  I figured at 99¢ each, I'd order a few to justify the shipping cost and I'd probably find a use for 'em sometime.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by pgolden on 03/19/06 at 14:35:06

I got the kickstand! I now have to decide how to modify it. I will probably have a peice welded to the foot.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by 911radioman on 03/19/06 at 17:49:58

I was thinking about you guys that have the longer shocks on and how you can fix your lean angle.

Those of you that are trying hockey pucks, what about taking that puck, measuring the size of the existing kickstand foot, then cutting the puck exactly to fit that foot with a band saw or something similar.  Then you could bolt it to the foot and it would not be any wider than the current stand foot, and wouldn't be so noticeable?

Think that would work for ya?

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by CHRIS on 03/19/06 at 17:59:19

How about finding yourself a piece of chromed whatever, cutting it to the same dimension as the foot on the stand, drilling through the kickstand and about 1/2 to 3/4 through your peice of chromed whatever, tapping that hole, threading your bolt through it with a little red loctite, this would eliminate the need to countersink for the head of the bolt or nut. Just a thought.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by WD on 03/19/06 at 22:31:57

You guys are WAY overthinking this one...

There are bolt-on kickstand kits out there for less than $100. Just mount it further back on the frame rail.  I see them on e-pay rather frequently in the $25 range. Look in the chopper/bobber parts section (forget its actual name). One designed for an FX chassis should be just about right, if not FL chassis has a HUGE kickstand.
-WD

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by 911radioman on 03/20/06 at 01:37:08

Adapting a $5 piece is overthinking?   ::)

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by Savage_Rob on 03/20/06 at 06:15:03


WD wrote:
You guys are WAY overthinking this one...

There are bolt-on kickstand kits out there for less than $100. Just mount it further back on the frame rail.  I see them on e-pay rather frequently in the $25 range. Look in the chopper/bobber parts section (forget its actual name). One designed for an FX chassis should be just about right, if not FL chassis has a HUGE kickstand.
-WD

Good thought, thanks.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by pgolden on 03/20/06 at 07:01:27


CHRIS wrote:
How about finding yourself a piece of chromed whatever, cutting it to the same dimension as the foot on the stand, drilling through the kickstand and about 1/2 to 3/4 through your peice of chromed whatever, tapping that hole, threading your bolt through it with a little red loctite, this would eliminate the need to countersink for the head of the bolt or nut. Just a thought.


I got the kickstand for $14.00 delivered, I like the idea of a chrome whatever to attach to the bottom. I am not going to rush into something. I will find a piece exactly like I want if I take my time.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by SirWilhelm on 03/21/06 at 18:14:31

In deference to young master Golden, I took the puck off and went to Wally World and got some of their chrome spray paint. And after the chrome paint dried (actually I got in a hurry with the first one) reattached the puck.
It does look better chromed. So maybe cutting the puck squarly along the edge of the current foot and painting it would look even  better. I have a second one and will take it to the coping saw and see what we get. If it works I'll get a photo of the completed foot. My worry with forming the puck to the foot is that if the puck moves then it is easier to break off. Still looking for something to glue the two together. And even with all of this I still only have less than $10 involved (3 pucks and a can of paint).

Bill
8)

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by clueless on 03/21/06 at 18:26:14

pg,

I expect to find a PING putter head attached to your kickstand!

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by pgolden on 03/21/06 at 18:29:53

Golf club epoxy is made to attach a metal head to a steel chrome shaft or a graphite shaft. I build golf clubs and I have some of this two part epoxy. I have used it for other projects and it is about as strong as you can get.  I could use a chrome wedge head as my foot. I could mount it turned open, like hitting a flop shot. The length is about right. Keep in mind I have a spare kickstand to work with, so time is on my side. Watch out my brain is buzzing!!

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by Steve530 on 03/21/06 at 20:08:00

Have you considered using something like JBWeld to form a thicker foot?  


Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by SirWilhelm on 03/21/06 at 20:42:58

You could cut the foot off of another kickstand and match the hole in the wedge shaft, like you would if you had a larger diameter shaft you were putting into the wedge. You'd need the shaft of the kickstand just slightly smaller than the internal diameter and you could mix the glass beads from GolfSmith into the epoxy to bond it tight.
Or use a Ping Eye3 putter, or one of the older heavier metal ones.
Hm, another project. Where did I put that broken putter head?
;-)

Cheers
Bill in WTx


Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by pgolden on 03/22/06 at 17:53:36

I have been thinking about my "wedgestand". I will have to use a left handed head for it to look and work properly. I just happen to have a brand new polished stainless steel LH gap wedge head. I will have it welded to the bottom of the new kickstand. When the kickstand is up, the face of the club will show, when it's down the sole will be on the ground and the face pointing up. I think this going to happen.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by sluggo on 03/23/06 at 23:28:47


pgolden wrote:
Watch out my brain is buzzing!!

'

when i go there, look out world.   :o :o

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by pgolden on 04/04/06 at 19:41:06

I found someone to weld the club head to my kickstand. He told me he would use stainless steel welding rods. He said the weld itself will not rust, but  when he welds the head on, the chrome will come off the kickstand close to the weld. The head is stainless steel, but I am going to have to hide the "joint" somehow. Any suggestions?

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by steelwolf on 04/04/06 at 20:01:10

Any suggestions?  Yea take it off, have it welded then before putting it back on have it redipped. Chrome plating is relativly inexpensive and quick for such small items. Especially if you can take it to them and pick it up.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by pgolden on 04/04/06 at 20:07:32

Where could I have it redipped. I live in a small rural town. I'm sure I will have to ship it somewhere. I still have my original stand on the bike, so I have lots of time.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by pgolden on 04/18/06 at 20:04:52

My "wedgestand" is welded. I will take pictures as soon as I get it rechromed and installed.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by pgolden on 04/20/06 at 19:31:54

Power Plating in Hackett, AR does small chrome jobs. He told me $30.00 to chrome my new "wedgestand". He said he can plate about any piece I have.

Title: Re: Kickstand
Post by steelwolf on 04/20/06 at 20:23:33

Yea that price sounds about right. Small things here (NC) are similarly priced. Sorry I couldn't help with a location. The places that do this are kinda obscure, at least around here.  Wierd considering the potential money to be made. Gotta know where to look. Thank heavens for Google.

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