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Message started by 650savagegirl on 03/11/06 at 16:48:21

Title: Cruising Speed?
Post by 650savagegirl on 03/11/06 at 16:48:21

Just a few questions I had...
1. What is "redline" on the 650?  
2. What speeds is it capable of without damage!
3. Does anyone ride interstate on their 650?

Thanks in advance!!  :-*

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by sluggo on 03/11/06 at 17:06:02


650savagegirl wrote:
Just a few questions I had...
1. What is "redline" on the 650?  
2. What speeds is it capable of without damage!
3. Does anyone ride interstate on their 650?

Thanks in advance!!  :-*


i find interstate riding no problem. i've racked up two 80+ mph infractions this past riding season.

top speed upright is about 86. prone i've gotten 95 mph.

many here feel comfortable in the 60 mph range.

but then again, i'm not like everyone else. duh... ;D


Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by Steve530 on 03/11/06 at 17:28:36

I've read here that the engine redline is 6500 rpm.  

It will cruise at 60 with no problem.

I've never had mine on the Interstate.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by Max_Morley on 03/11/06 at 17:37:55

I've blasted down the slab on mine at 70-75 no problems for miles in WA, OR and Idaho and I have a full fairing, hard bags and am/was a big guy. I move into the right side of the lane on B roads when meeting trucks and motorhomes with a flat front as the wind blast is noticeable.  Mileage does go down some when running this fast/hard or into a wind from head ahead to 90 degrees each way. Tail winds a blessing.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by clueless on 03/11/06 at 18:28:34

Rode the interstate at least 2 hrs today. I cruise at 65-70-75, whatever traffic requires. Wind it up- let it go.

Jim

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by Dynobob on 03/11/06 at 19:18:35


650savagegirl wrote:

2. What speeds is it capable of without damage!

Run it as fast as you care to. You won't hurt it.


Quote:
3. Does anyone ride interstate on their 650?

All the time. Cruising at 70mph is no problem for the Savage. Don't let the rpms fool you. They're quite content at 60-70.


Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by diesel on 03/11/06 at 22:11:05

Savage just like old VW's, top speed is crusing speed. but they do feel just a little light around top end.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by klx650sm2002 on 03/12/06 at 01:12:57

Red line is 6500 RPM's (KLX 7500, but is 83mm stroke as against 94mm for the Savage).
Peak torque is at 55mph (3700rpm) which should give best economy.

Clive W  :D

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by lancer on 03/12/06 at 04:53:15

I have to agree that with a stock Savage you can just peg the  throttle and let 'er go, it won't hurt anything.  The Savage is a tough bike, ride with confidence.
If you are into performance then it will respond VERY WELL to rejetting the carb, giving you noticeably more power and speed with hardly any decrease in milage.

With more modifications to the exhaust, camshaft, shocks, forks, etc., the Savage can be transformed into a very respectable "street performer".  Top speeds of well over 100 are not difficult to attain.

I cruise in the 75-85 range frequently and my engine loves it.  It is modified a bit so that makes a difference.  With the gearing on the Savage the engine is turning about 4500 rpm at 75 mph (my rear tire is slightly larger than stock) which is a bit on the busy side but no harm at all...in fact, with the cam I have that rpm is in the middle of the power band.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by Ed_L. on 03/12/06 at 06:23:16

Cruising at 70-75mph is possible with no problem although the bike is a bit light in the wind. I've had my '02 up to 93mph a couple times and I think it can run a little over 100mph, just haven't gotten the nerve up to push it that far. After all that I prefer to "cruise" around 65mph.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by Banger on 03/12/06 at 08:36:22

Don't do anything stupid, and you won't blow her up or significantly reduce engine life.

I've had mine up at 80 just to keep up with traffic on I-40 and it handled it like a champ. Compared to my usual 45-65 riding, this was quite a bit more vibration and the engine sounded like it was working pretty hard...but the gearing charts (anybody got a link to one of those, by the way? I know I saw one somewhere...) assured me I had nothing to worry about at that speed in top gear.

Any faster than that, and you're just asking for a ticket or a bad mishap anyway, with drivers in their cages as unpredictable as they tend to be.

As I've heard before, "use your head. Don't get dead."

Regards,
Banger
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Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by 650savagegirl on 03/12/06 at 11:31:09

Well, the hubby had mine up to 80-85 "trying'er out..." on the interstate.  He said it sounded like it was up in the rpm's and backed down to 70-75 which he said sounded smooth.  Thanks for all the comments...now I just have to research a pipe that will sound a little better without having to re-jet....  ;)

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by cigaro on 03/12/06 at 13:34:30

Let us know if you find the pipe that sounds better without having to re-jet.  I wouldn't mind doing that, but I was under the impression that if you changed one you had to change the carb, too.  Isn't that the case?

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by USCG Cremeans on 03/12/06 at 14:05:31

don't be afraid of rejetting, it can be your friend.  Its almost as simple as changing a screw.  Might be worth the effort.

I'm not sure if you have to change one thing when you change the other, but i beleive it is recommended? especially if it leans out the bike more.  Maybe you can just adjust the mixture to compinsate for it..  I'm sure some of the engine whiz's on this site will reply soon and tell you the facts.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by Dynobob on 03/12/06 at 14:15:07


cigaro wrote:
Let us know if you find the pipe that sounds better without having to re-jet.  I wouldn't mind doing that, but I was under the impression that if you changed one you had to change the carb, too.  Isn't that the case?

Yes you should rejet if you change the muffler. The bike is already too lean stock and when you put a freer flowing muffler on it gets leaner still.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by bikingb on 03/12/06 at 17:07:55


cigaro wrote:
Let us know if you find the pipe that sounds better without having to re-jet.  I wouldn't mind doing that, but I was under the impression that if you changed one you had to change the carb, too.  Isn't that the case?



Supertrapp claims that you can switch out the pipe w/o rejetting.  Mine sounds WAYYYYYY better with the Supertrapp.  But, I did rejet.  I am getting a little gold on the pipe.  So,  I must need to make some adjustment.  I did 152.5, 1/2 white spacer, 5 discs in the  supertrapp.  I thought I'd run it with the 152.5 and see what happened.

I rode today between 70-75 on the interstate.  No problems, sounded a little wierd.  For me mostly it's nerves.  I just started riding last year.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by Dynobob on 03/12/06 at 17:13:22


bikingb wrote:
I am getting a little gold on the pipe.  So,  I must need to make some adjustment.

The only place mine has colored is on the end cap to the disks. A nice gold color. Gold isn't so bad - it's blue that you need to worry about. I run a 157.5 main jet with mine. Gas mileage is good. Power is great.

I don't care what Supertrapp says. You should rejet.


Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by slavy on 03/12/06 at 17:35:50

The bikes cruise nice at 70-75. In the SW You have to keep at leat this speed to be able to stay on the hwy. No problems with higher speeds, but the gas-milage goes down significantly. No worries about "blowing " the engine.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by bikingb on 03/12/06 at 17:49:12


Dynobob wrote:

The only place mine has colored is on the end cap to the disks. A nice gold color. Gold isn't so bad - it's blue that you need to worry about. I run a 157.5 main jet with mine. Gas mileage is good. Power is great.

I don't care what Supertrapp says. You should rejet.


I hear ya' I think mine was much better on the highway today.  Mine is mostly gold on the end as well.  A little blue at the beginning of the head pipe.  It may have been that way before.  But, I thought I cleaned it up when I made the changes.  

It is a fun process!

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by pgolden on 03/12/06 at 19:54:11

If your hubby can ride 80-85 mph, he is brave enough to change your jet. You will be really surprised at the power the bike can make with just a jet change, white spacer mod and performance exhaust.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by Capt._Capsize on 03/13/06 at 07:11:01

Allow me to put in my 2 cents.  Rejet and spacer mod and tweak low speed jet should be done even if you don't change the muffler.  It will run better and cooler if done.  Changing muffler without doing it will shorten engine life.  I recommend a Harley Sporster muffler and a 6" piece of exaust pipe with a 10 degree bend.  Have any muffler shop bend and flare tubing for you.  Get muffler at most any INDEPENDENT Vtwin shop for 15 to 25 bucks.  You can probably get a chrome exhaust shield to cover the pipe extention where you get the muffler.  Good luck and be safe.  PS, I don't recommend riding the interstate on your Savage, I won't do it. Also if you select the correct muffller it will bolt up to the Savage mount with just a little bending on the bike bracket, piece of cake.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by HotFix on 03/13/06 at 09:51:14

I ride on the 'I' all the time.  65mph was enough for me until I got a windshiled.  Now I'm around 75-80mph.  The Savage is alight bike the wind will really move you at that speed.  I ride 90mph on my 700 pound bike with no problems.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by Paula71 on 03/13/06 at 10:12:01

I ride interstate frequently with the fellow 800's and no problems.  Before rejetting and new muffler it did feel a little tight at 70 but now it cruises freely, almost like I got an extra gear.  Longest Interstate ride was OH to northern NC, bike did very well. :)



Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by 911radioman on 03/13/06 at 16:00:58

Most of my riding is country roads and state highways.  On the country roads, 40-45 mph.  Highways I like to run about 55-60 mph.  Interstates (when I do go on them) about 70-75.

Title: Re: Cruising Speed?
Post by Savage_Rob on 03/14/06 at 06:25:26

I regularly do 70+ on the freeway because that's the speed of the flow and she has no troubles with that.  However, my preferred speed is probably about 60.

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