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/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl General Category >> Rubber Side Down! >> What I wanna know is... /cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1140224837 Message started by Bugscraper on 02/17/06 at 17:07:17 |
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Title: What I wanna know is... Post by Bugscraper on 02/17/06 at 17:07:17 What's this about a 13,000 mi. life expectancy? :-/ That's just plain rediculous! |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by bikingb on 02/17/06 at 17:35:50 Where did you get that number? |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by vroom1776 on 02/17/06 at 19:46:11 Torque? I figure there is about a 1% failure rate, by which I mean, savages that die, or need to be rebuilt for more than a the cost of a used one, before 20k miles. User error? Factory f*ck up? Yes. Both? yes. The savage is a cheap bike with 20 year old technology. How many bikes can you find that essentially haven't been changed for 20 yrs and still sell well and you still see on the road? 1! the savage! (that I know of!) It's a solid bike with a few, uh, problems (i.e. the stock seat is horrible, it's slow as mud from the factory, there're few aftermarket parts... until you come here!)... but it has a lot of plusses to it...: no one knows what it is... it's unique! a lot of room for growth for a little $$$ (<1.5k$; performance, comfort and style) It handles very well It is essentially reliable (see many other posts by me.. it has taken care of me when I all but drained the oil). it's very simple (e.g. to work on and to look at) low insurance and theft rate (for whatever that means to your biker buddies - ???) once you hop it up, even a little, it rocks (i.e. will smoke an HD sporters 883... will kill my V* 1100 when I get a "new" carb from lancer) The supprot from this website This bike has a soul. Uh, what am I leaving out? |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by 911radioman on 02/17/06 at 20:53:43 IIRC, that number is mentioned toward the back of the owner's manual, and the only thing it refers to is the "average" number of miles the EPA uses to base a life expectancy on for emission control crap. Bottom line, there are too many of these bikes out there still running to give that number any hard and fast credibility. It's just a guide used by the government. |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by slavy on 02/17/06 at 20:56:50 In the hands of a not so smart owner-rider even 3K is a lot. Believe me- I've seen this . |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by Bugscraper on 02/17/06 at 22:38:20 Thanks, guys, for the reinforcement. :) |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by Kaishaku on 02/17/06 at 23:09:35 vroom1776 wrote:
Kawasaki EX250 |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by AussieSavage on 02/18/06 at 03:29:18 Well as far as I am concerned these are one of the most reliable bikes on the market.My 1986 Savage has done 98,000km with one complete rebuild at 80,000km. If you look after these bikes well you will have years of trouble free motoring. Of course they are a single cylinder motor and over doing the revs will do more harm than good. I say bull shhhhh to the 13,000 mile life expectancy Cheers Aussie Savage |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by PerrydaSavage on 02/18/06 at 04:27:22 Whoo Hoo Aussie ... thanks for the words of encouragement! Congrats on the high-milage Savage by-the-way! Very Cool! |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by simplyput2600 on 02/20/06 at 06:55:37 hey vroom1776 i have a bone stock 1999 savage and i was wondering what i could do to get it faster than a Sporster 883? what did you do? is just a re-jet and new exhaust that does the trick? |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by vroom1776 on 02/20/06 at 07:54:43 I took 45 lbs or so off the thing. Remove the snorkel to the airbox, bolt a kn air filter right to the carb, add a good pipe, and rejet accordingly, and go on a diet ;) . Cost: < $100. There are more ways to get more HP & torque, like junking the stock carb and adding one of lancer's, bore out, regrind the cam, port and pollish... but I only ripped off the weight, + air, pipe, rejet. See the "savage Mods" in the tech section... Keep in mind it'll still get whipped on the highway, but around town, it is quick as hell. What I took off: fender, seat, turn signals, battery box & toolkit, 1 mirror, stock bars (made new one out of a pipe) left side control housing. |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by lancer on 02/20/06 at 08:11:20 I ride with a lot of H-D's in the local riding club, and none of them outrun my Savage up to 90...and I can leave about half of them. If I lost about 35 lbs it would be even better. The Savage is a great bike, and with a little tweaking it will live up to its' name. |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by vroom1776 on 02/20/06 at 08:13:22 Lancer, that would give you about 5 more HP! ;D |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by torque on 02/20/06 at 09:30:55 careful guys, dont say how quick the savage is out loud.or people will start saying that u abuse it ::) |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by bentwheel on 02/20/06 at 14:54:17 AussieSavage wrote:
Wow, that is one of the highest mileage Savage I have heard of. How long have you owned the bike an how many kms did you put on? Do you know what engine work previous owners had done? I find it interesting to hear the history of high mileage motors. |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by simplyput2600 on 02/20/06 at 15:30:32 to vroom1776 what kind of pipe do you have? does the sporsterpipe work just as well as the jardine? |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by vroom1776 on 02/20/06 at 16:02:43 simplyput2600 wrote:
Don't know about jardine vs sportster. Most people say the Raask pipe is the best, but I don't have any experience with that either. I got a cherry bomb, aka glasspack, and stuffed a thumbscrew in the back for a little more back pressure. from jegs, part number 289-24210, website: http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10002&storeId=10001&categoryId=13797&parentCategoryId=10265&langId=-1 pic: http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/28924200.jpg Due to the large body diameter, it fit right onto the stock muffler bracket without a problem. It is held on with a strap clamp. I took the CB to the shop at work and put two slits into one end to make sure it would fit easily. I did not need them at all. I sealed it up with some high temp (red) RTV sealant. Be aware, though, these, and the raask, are extremely loud "mufflers." When I get on the throttle, it's a 140 dB easy. Even at idle, it's at least 90 dB. Yep, that's illegal. I keep it down 95% of the time. |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by 911radioman on 02/20/06 at 17:24:33 You got a sound clip of that? I'd love to hear what that sounds like! :D |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by AussieSavage on 02/20/06 at 19:33:07 Hi Bentwheel, The bike has only had the two owners since new and I purchased it at 81,000km, after the engine had been reconditioned at 80,000km by the original owner, which included most transmission parts. The last owner was a fanatic and took the bike to a Suzuki Dealership every 2,000km for servicing and this was mainly oil changes. Reciepts from the last owner showed valve adjustment, cam chain, brake pads, new clutch,clutch cable, regulator,tyres brushes for starter, speedo cable and a needle and seat for carby. Since I have owned the bike I have replaced the starter motor, throttle cable, electrical relay,brakes, tyres and an aftermarket exhaust. The oil changes have been a major factor in the Longtivity of the bikes engine. Bike has 98,450km on the clock now and should kick on for many years to come. Cheers from AussieSavage |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by bentwheel on 02/20/06 at 20:36:36 Hmmm, pretty impressive Aussiesavage. This is the sort of testament I was looking for in our Savage. |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by vroom1776 on 02/21/06 at 09:35:16 911radioman wrote:
No I don't. Maybe I can use my camera to record a little video and try and post it. It has a very unique sound for a motorcycle. Kind of a "BRRAAPPP" sound. |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by Jim_R on 02/21/06 at 12:48:54 How many bikes can you find that essentially haven't been changed for 20 yrs and still sell well and you still see on the road? Yamaha v-max. Still a great bike. Ugly for sure, but only the v-rod can hang with it. I wanna get one but the seat height is kinda high. Maybe if u lowered it. hmmm |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by Steve530 on 02/21/06 at 12:57:02 Ninja 250. |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by vroom1776 on 02/21/06 at 13:23:42 So that makes 4 good bikes that we can think of... and I would question wether or not the Vmax is good... (lousy frame, too darn fast, heavy, expensive to insure, but the next moedl year is supposed to see a better frame) |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by XxQualitySealxX on 02/21/06 at 13:33:42 Suzuki GS500 (e and f) the only difference between the e and f is the fairing. |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by mornhm on 02/21/06 at 13:44:47 Kawasaki Concours |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by Digger on 12/21/06 at 20:20:59 vroom1776 wrote:
Don't forget the Kawasaki KLR650. I've got one of those in my garage, as well. However, Kawasaki is going to give this bike a mild face-lift for the 2008 model year. |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by john1652 on 12/22/06 at 16:00:10 how about a Hodaka Super Rat? No, just kiding but they sure were sweet |
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Title: Re: What I wanna know is... Post by bigvl800rider on 12/22/06 at 16:09:04 well, i have road a v-rod screaming eagle and a v-max, both of which were new, 06 models. the v-max would smoke the v-rod, no questions asked. v-rod was more comfortable but v-max is made for 1 thing, speed. does that well. not comfortable, ride too much like a cr0tch rocket |
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