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Message started by saabsaviur on 01/06/06 at 21:41:15

Title: Tire Question?
Post by saabsaviur on 01/06/06 at 21:41:15

Since owning my savage I baoght new tires for the first time the last ones on it had fibers showing through the bald spots :'( i have purchase two dunlops 404 they are marked tubeless and i know the savages have tubes is this a mistake or not a problem at all i m headed over to tommorow to a bike shop to have them mounted am i going to be humilated or not?

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/06/06 at 21:57:43

Those tires should be fine as long as you still use tubes. I may be old-fashioned in my thinking but I've never seen spoked rims without a tube. While you're replacing tires, replace the tubes too. They're not expensive and worth the peace of mind. You can keep the old tubes as road spares instead of a patch kit..

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by klx650sm2002 on 01/07/06 at 02:03:56

I have a 110/70/17 and a 140/70/17 on spoked rims, both using tubes, no problems.

Clive W :D

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by Digger on 01/07/06 at 11:16:58

Savage_Rob wrote:

Hi Rob,

There are some Beemers with spoked rims that use tubeless tires. I guess you can do these types of things when you charge what BMW does for a bike.

There may be other bikes out there that do this, I just can't remember any others off-hand.

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/07/06 at 12:44:15

Digger wrote:

Hmm, that's interesting. I guess maybe the spokes are attached to studs on the rim or something instead of penetrating it like normal ones.

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by saabsaviur on 01/07/06 at 15:51:12

got my tires and wheels back and mounted on the bike no where in manuals does it say how tight to tighten the drive belt? the bike feels totally different like a different bike it turns so easy almost to easy kinda scary maybee the tires are overinflated.

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by Reelthing on 01/07/06 at 17:02:05

there's the little gauge in the tool kit to measure - but rule of thumb that works well for us is to get it tight/loose enough that you can twist it 90degs

check the presure for sure - 28-30lb/s front 32-34 rear

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by saabsaviur on 01/07/06 at 17:09:28

dont have oe tool kit but will deffinetly check into the that tool like should it be hard tot wst or just comfortable

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by Reelthing on 01/07/06 at 17:12:50

fairly easy to twist is how I set it - the gauge actually will set it tighter than that but a tad on the loose side seems better

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by bentwheel on 01/09/06 at 12:16:01

Savage_Rob wrote:

Hmm, that's interesting. I guess maybe the spokes are attached to studs on the rim or something instead of penetrating it like normal ones.

Hey guys, check the spokes closely on a tubeless BMW wheel. You will notice the spokes are not centred , but on the edge of the rim. I believe the spoke nipples lie outside of the tire's bead therefore allowing the tire to be inflated without the need for a tube.
http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/bmw-r1200gs-06-bikepics-462096.jpg

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/09/06 at 14:14:19

Thanks for that image, Bentwheel.

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by BS37066 on 01/09/06 at 16:43:43

http://www.gadgetjq.com/tww.htm

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/10/06 at 05:26:33

BS37066 wrote:

http://www.gadgetjq.com/tww.htm

I think I'll stick with tubes.

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by Manxman on 01/12/06 at 10:47:35

There is a company in California that will adapt motorcycle wire wheels for tubless tires:

http://motorcyclecruiser.com/tech/wheelseal/

www.wheel-works.com

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by PerrydaSavage on 01/12/06 at 14:21:10

Speaking of tires ... a pal of mine just bought an old '86 Savage off of another pal of mine with the goal of resurrecting the old gal ... anyhoo, he just put some new rubber on the front; a 90/90 instead of the old stock 100/90 ... and IMHO, I think the new tire with the shorter sidewall looks incredible! How will this affect how the Savage rides and/or steers?

Title: Re: Tire Question?
Post by BS37066 on 01/12/06 at 18:19:12

Braking gets marginally better. Slight improvement in maneuverability due to decreased trail.

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