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Message started by AussieSavage on 12/26/05 at 15:53:46

Title: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by AussieSavage on 12/26/05 at 15:53:46

Hi ,
I am using Castrol Active 4t (15w-50) mineral based oil in my Savage and I know I should change and experiment with others.

After an oil change and clocking up 1,000 miles, my Savage clutch starts to slip.Nothing major, but something you do notice on occasions. I put this down to thinning of the oil.

Just wondering if anyone else here has that problem and what oil are you using?

Have also purchased a highway bar and peg set from Ebay in America. Has Suzuki stamped at the bottom, so I am thinking its a factory extra.
I am 5ft 11 inches tall and these are a must for the taller guys.Just makes my riding much more comfortable and they sit at a nice height.

If anyone would like a picture of these bars and pegs just email me and I will send you some details. Someone handy might like to have the measurements and make it up themselfs.

Hope you all had a good Xmas.

Cheers from Australia

Gary

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Paladin on 12/26/05 at 17:31:54

I use plain old Castro GTX 20-50 -- no problems.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by torque on 12/26/05 at 18:22:26

not this again ::) :D

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by lancer on 12/26/05 at 19:20:57

I use Amsoil 10-40 synthetic with no problems.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by SavagePielk on 12/27/05 at 00:01:38

Shell mineral oil 10W40

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by sluggo on 12/27/05 at 00:26:46

torque wrote:

not this again ::) :D

and again, and again and again. 8)

delco 400 10-40w

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by klx650sm2002 on 12/27/05 at 02:19:19

Putoline off road 4+ 10w/40 SG 100% synthetic in KLX.

Clive W :D

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by AussieSavage on 12/27/05 at 03:27:10

Hi,

thanks to the guys that answered my question, its been helpful. To the others with their smart arse replies why bother, nobody asked you to read my posting:) ;D

This is what this site is about after all, asking questions and helping others.

Cya
Gary

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Reelthing on 12/27/05 at 03:40:50

pour out all that other oil - it's mobil 1 20w-50 vtwin or disaster will ensue! - just kidding - probally doesn't make much difference if you keep it clean and stay away from the friction reduce'n stuff

on the clutch slip'n - it seems to a couple of us these clutches slip far to soon - before the plates are worn much at all - more like time based than wear based - I have new springs and if I'll quit playing with the other toys long enough I intend to just replace the springs, add about 1.5-2.0 mm washer on each for some pre-load and see how long my clutch will last - it slips now under heavy throttle at low speed in higher gears.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by r80rt on 12/27/05 at 04:23:57

Castrol GTX 20-50

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by red2k1 on 12/27/05 at 05:33:51

Valvoline 4 Stroke Motorcycle Oil -- 20W-50

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by torque on 12/27/05 at 06:47:07

AussieSavage wrote:

yes that is what this site is about ,but we go over this topic every week it seems,just do a search or look back a few pages.and u'll get many more replies.

p.s. don't be a smart a$$ ;)

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Ed_L. on 12/27/05 at 09:04:31

Castrol 20-50w, a lot will depend on the bike and the riding style.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Savage_Rob on 12/27/05 at 12:35:44

Maxum-4 Extra 100% Synthetic
http://www.denniskirk.com/denniskirk/b2c/product_images/e/3/2/600pix/e32901.jpg

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by AussieSavage on 12/27/05 at 12:45:45

Hi torque ,

all I can say mate is if your a senior member here, grow up a bit.

Your time would be better spent contributing something useful to this site, if that is possible ::)

Cheers Gary

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by torque on 12/27/05 at 12:57:07

AussieSavage wrote:

Hi torque ,

all I can say mate is if your a senior member here, grow up a bit.

Your time would be better spent contributing something useful to this site, if that is possible ::)

Cheers Gary

what the hell is wrong with u? i'm trying to be helpful telling that if u look back a few pages u'll find more answers so we dont have to type it all again,and again,and again.

well i guess one more time wont hurt,i did use 10w-40,now i use kawachem. read this (http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1099572561)

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by SAMM on 12/27/05 at 13:31:01

If You Two Kids Are Going To Fight...You two will have to go set in the car !!!

DONT MAKE ME PULL THIS CAR OVER !!! ;D

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by torque on 12/27/05 at 15:02:42

SAMM wrote:

If You Two Kids Are Going To Fight...You two will have to go set in the car !!!

DONT MAKE ME PULL THIS CAR OVER !!! ;D

sorry dad,i'll sit still and be quiet

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by pgolden on 12/27/05 at 16:47:32

Honda GN4 10W40 for my ride.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by BS37066 on 12/27/05 at 17:28:56

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by klx650sm2002 on 12/29/05 at 02:37:14

What is the Savage's oil capacity in liters, KLX is 1.8 l.

Clive W :D

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Digger on 12/29/05 at 09:35:01

I use 10W-40 Mobil Clean 5000 (petro-based) motor oil and EMGO oil filters.

I change both every 2K miles, which means that sometimes the oil is in there for well over a year (blasphemy!).

The bike only has 5K miles on it, but so far, no clutch slip (KOW). It seems to use about 4 oz. of oil every 1000 miles. The bike has never required a valve clearance adjustment yet.

When I fill 'er up w/ oil after an oil and filter change, I put in exactly 2 qts., which puts the level at midpoint in the window.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by RadarORiley on 12/29/05 at 14:23:48

BS37066 wrote:

Lou Anna's refined peanut oil. Has a higher burn temperature than the vegetable oil, and better nonstick qualities, to boot.

And I can pull over and have a fried chicken tail-gater in the middle of the ride. Makes me a popular addition to most group rides.

;D I just saw a thing on TV about a guy from Texas Instruments who uses Old Vegetable/Fry grease to run his Suburban instead of diesel, so he smells like French Fries as he drives along. ;D

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by SAMM on 12/29/05 at 15:11:24

Dont laugh some are playing with it here in oregon too....I have smelled it and it does have a weird oder !!

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Mr 650 on 12/29/05 at 18:39:52

I find Vitalis works well, but Brylcreem will do if you can't find it ::)

torque wrote:

not this again ::) :D

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Mr 650 on 12/29/05 at 18:41:09

pert' near the same.

klx650sm2002 wrote:

What is the Savage's oil capacity in liters, KLX is 1.8 l.

Clive W :D

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by MacAttack on 05/23/06 at 17:34:47

Mobil MX4T synlube. I got several quarts at Schuck's - they were closing them out, for $2 a quart. I'll probably still use it after. I use it in my XR650R and that's tuned a bit racier. I figure it's cheap insurance...others may figure it's a waste of money. Who knows?

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by guitarsr4girls2 on 05/23/06 at 18:00:00

is it bad that i just use the suzuki 10-40? the shop is right next to my house and i'm too lazy to grab anything else...but if there's something that's better and cheaper out there, lemme know. I think I'm paying something like 3.90 USD a quart right now.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by 911radioman on 05/23/06 at 18:17:23

Just as long as it doesn't have the energy conserving starburst on the back of the bottle, then car oils work well. Energy Conserving oils will do a number on your clutch.

Most 40 weights and up that I've seen don't have those. I mostly use Castrol 10W-40 in winter/fall and 20W-50 in spring/summer.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by bentwheel on 05/23/06 at 18:28:15

Yeah, what oil should you use? Does it really matter? Sometimes it doesn't. I heard a story, maybe it was an urban legend, about two guys touring through Africa in a Citroen 2CV. It ain't much of a car. It has lawn chairs for seats and a 2 cylinder motorcycle engine, but it is easy to work on, and very durable, and that's what made these things popular.
Anyways these two guys are nearing their homeland while traversing through the Sarah desert at a good clip when they run onto a rock pile. The impact knocks their buggy sideways and on inspection, discover the engines' crankcase is cracked and the oil has disappeared into the sand. Overnight they managed to epoxy the leaky crankcase but have no oil to add. They are in a remote area and after another 24 hours they become desperate. Nothing around but sand and banana trees. It seemed the only alternative was to put bananas in the engine's crankcase and hope for the best. They forced enough bananas into the engine until it was full and took off hopping for the best. They crossed their fingers and after 200 hundred miles they reached a village where they drained the fruity elixir and replenished with real oil.
So does it matter what oil you put in your Savage? Probably not.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by guitarsr4girls2 on 05/23/06 at 18:41:09

man, that's great news, b/c i was thinking about using canned cat food instead of oil...may not save me much money, but what stories i would have! :-)

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Brewbrother on 05/23/06 at 19:01:53

911radioman wrote:

I use castrol 20w-50 . The deep south commuters oil of choice.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by pgolden on 05/23/06 at 19:12:07

Honda GN-4 10W40 for my Savage. It's about $4.00 per quart.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by 650S on 08/27/06 at 13:57:11

AussieSavage wrote:

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by 650S on 08/27/06 at 14:00:17

i use valvoline 20w50 7000 miles on 2005 650

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Savage_Rob on 08/27/06 at 21:24:48

Maxum-4 Extra 100% Synthetic 15w50

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by pmanntex on 08/28/06 at 10:00:57

Put Mobil 1 synthetic 10w-40 when bought the bike 2001 (1500 miles). Selection based on threads here and info obtained on www comparing performance of motorcycle lubricants based on controlled testing.

I like many on this site have adopted the philosophy that lube changes are cheap compared to a re-bore or valve job, and changed it every 500 miles.

However, after two changes and watching the oil in the site glass while running in the Texas summer heat move like it has the viscosity of water, I am changing to a Castrol Act-Evo 20W-50.
Any one out there got any experience with switching oil weights for running in different hot/cold seasons?

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by JerryAssburger on 08/28/06 at 11:14:49

This is a FUN thread!!! A friend of mine researched the web (exhaustively) and came up with the Rotella T oils; either mineral or synthetic. W-Mart sells it for $8 or $15 a gallon, respectively, and on my 13k bike, the synthetic hasn't caused any slip at all. (It has no friction-reducers or whatever it is that causes the clutch to slip.) Take care, all.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by mickthelimey on 08/29/06 at 01:05:41

while we are on the oil thing,whats the difference between 10/40 motor oil and 10/40 motor cycle oil,beside the price?
Hey Digger,it says in my clymer manual that the time interval is more important than the mileage interval because acids formed by combustion blowby will contaminate the oil even if the bike is not run for several months.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by papiocho on 08/30/06 at 15:22:50

JerryAssburger wrote:

that's what i use(mineral) waiting to hit over 2000 miles to start using synthetic

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Jim_R on 08/31/06 at 14:00:31

Hey I used this Oil and it made my engne blow up after I rebuilt it. WAIT that was Torque!

Mine did blew up tho. When I bought it, it had that cam chain problem.

Anyway to all future blow ups! Please dont lock up ur rear wheel and skidd into the oncoming traffic. Oh wait. That was u again TORQUE! SHEESH. nothing fun ever happens to me.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by lancer on 08/31/06 at 14:10:45

Where has Torque been lately?

Haven't seen much of either of you lately?

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by Jim_R on 09/01/06 at 02:57:35

Torque is working a job (over 65 hrs a week 6 days a week). We sometimes ride together but we have done alot of resting on the weekends. I invited him to go to Myrtle beach fal bike week but he cant go. I got a friend going with me 1st week in OCT.

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by jotrac on 09/01/06 at 04:29:45

Pardon my ignorance, but what happens when a clutch slips? How would I know if it was happening? ???

Title: Re: What oil are you using in the Savage?
Post by babbalou on 09/01/06 at 18:26:13

jotrac wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but what happens when a clutch slips? How would I know if it was happening? ???

You give it gas, let out the clutch, the revs rise but you don't move, or you move really slow. Almost like you're in neutral. Or, you open the throttle, revs go up but you don't accelerate.