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Message started by kikuchiyo on 10/30/05 at 22:26:03

Title: and another newbie question
Post by kikuchiyo on 10/30/05 at 22:26:03

After a week of standing still Savage took its time starting up. Which means she/he will do it again when really cold weather will come in. Can Savage be push started?!If yes what is the correct protocol? (I base the following on my knowledge of push starting the rented Peugeot 205 in Morocco years ago.)

1. put in 2nd gear;
2. turn the ignition key
3. push/run Savage from the hill
4. release the clutch as I push the starter?
5.??

(Here is the question! on one hand, the clutch has to be pressed in orger for the bike to start up. On the other hand, the clutch has to be released (at the same instance) to be engaged into gear). So is this possible?
Thank you!

Title: Re: and another newbie question
Post by sluggo on 10/30/05 at 22:46:16

third or 4th works well, i've done it on several occasions. pain in the butt though.

Title: Re: and another newbie question
Post by Ryan G (RG) on 10/30/05 at 22:55:07

I, unfortunately, had to push start my Savage many times. I did it in 2nd every time, though a higher gear may have been easier. Yeah, it's a pain in the butt (you've got to run pretty hard, in other words because of that stinkin big cylinder) but it's plenty do-able. No, you don't need to push the start button when you're doing it. The battery's dead, so the start button doesn't do anything anyway; it's the turning over of the engine that gets the engine to start.

Title: Re: and another newbie question
Post by Kaishaku on 10/30/05 at 23:12:34

What he said!

As masochistic as this sounds, I would recommend trying it sometime when it's not an emergency situation.

Title: Re: and another newbie question
Post by Jim_R on 10/30/05 at 23:31:47

try charging the battery :)

even if u get it push-started it prob wont recharge tha battery enough unless its a really long ride.

Title: Re: and another newbie question
Post by jbrough7 on 10/31/05 at 01:24:39

One big thing i noticed is that it'll only push start for me if I roll it backwards till it won't go any further - tdc! this is very important!

Also, the sun has to be shining and i have to have five layers of clothing on....then she starts!

Good Luck!

Title: Re: and another newbie question
Post by Hammy211 on 10/31/05 at 02:48:03

Yes, roll it back as mentioned while in second. If you can be on a grippier surface it helps so the wheel doesn't lock up as easy. You will want to run as fast as you can with it then hop on, stand on the pegs, then drop down on the seat hard just as you release the clutch so that you don't lock up the rear wheel. Give it a little gas or it will probably die right away. No need to do whatever you were talking about with the starter. Just make sure you have the key switched to run and the kill switch off!

Title: Re: and another newbie question
Post by jbrough7 on 10/31/05 at 02:54:00

I forgot about the grippier surface...good point! I tried a million times (slight exaggeration) on my gravel drive and then first time out on the concrete sidewalk she fired right up!

Title: Re: and another newbie question
Post by Savage_Rob on 10/31/05 at 05:31:25

Battery Tender Jr. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BATTERY-TENDER-JR-Charger-12V-75A-FOR-HARLEY-BATTERIES_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35571QQitemZ4586417790QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVWQQtcZphoto)

Title: Re: and another newbie question
Post by RadarORiley on 10/31/05 at 09:51:39

Amen to the Battery Tender. I remember running to start bikes in the 60's and it was not fun. Now I'm too old and fat to do that. I bought a Battery TenderPlus for all the bikes in the family(6) for Christmas last year and haven't regretted it for a minute. (Except when I wrote the check!)