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Message started by HawkEye1967 on 09/20/05 at 19:12:03

Title: What would you do?
Post by HawkEye1967 on 09/20/05 at 19:12:03

Okay here's the deal, wife has agreed to my buying a new motorcycle  :o, basically any thing I want up to about the $15 000.00 range (max amount, also in canadian funds.)  have considered the vtx 1300 as well as the 1400 intruder have also thought of going with a smaller bike 800 intruder or 750 shadow sprit.  but to do this I have to sell the Savage :'(.  other option is to spend up to about half of that on the Savage I have now, which is a 1986 LSF.  bike is stock but would be allowed to buy whatever toys I like ;D. raask muffler, k and N filter new carb, windshield, lightbar, forward controls, etc.

Both options have a lot of appeal, love my baby, but could learn to love another (life taught me that)

So the question of the day is what would you do? 8)

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Trippah on 09/20/05 at 19:25:08

hi-Hawkeye 1967, tough decision.  Do you ride two up often? AT all?Does your wife have her own cycle?   Second barrage of questions..lots of highway riding or a little.  Third issue- do you like to do your own maitenance etc.  Is the biking experience simply the riding or the mod and maintenance as well.   Could you  buy the bigger bike and keep the savage "for your wife" ;)
answer the questions honestly and I think you'll know which ride to own.  Tough question - but what FUN! Enjoy and keep us posted please.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by HawkEye1967 on 09/20/05 at 19:35:14

Thanks Trippah, bike is mainly for my own use, wife basically won't ride with me until kids are to old to be orphaned, mainly ride in city but want the highway option, not for any rides over say 6ish hours, do take my kids on the bike ages 9 and 3, but either way they would be happy, I just like to ride,will do some of my own maintence, but have a bike doc. that helps me out. most of the mods that are plug and play (within reason) I will do myself, with the help of my bike experts, (this site). have tried the, keep the savage and get another option, have found not a option at all. I still think it would make a good gift for my son when he turns 16, but hey, well money is available, it does not yet grow on any trees I have found, (still looking though).

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by sluggo on 09/20/05 at 20:10:04


HawkEye1967 wrote:
Okay here's the deal, wife has agreed to my buying a new motorcycle  :o, basically any thing I want up to about the $15 000.00 range (max amount, also in canadian funds.)  have considered the vtx 1300 as well as the 1400 intruder have also thought of going with a smaller bike 800 intruder or 750 shadow sprit.  but to do this I have to sell the Savage :'(.  other option is to spend up to about half of that on the Savage I have now, which is a 1986 LSF.  bike is stock but would be allowed to buy whatever toys I like ;D. raask muffler, k and N filter new carb, windshield, lightbar, forward controls, etc.

Both options have a lot of appeal, love my baby, but could learn to love another (life taught me that)

So the question of the day is what would you do? 8)


i was faced with a simular situation last year, i could have spent as much as you.   i chose a brand spanking new savage that i  chopped into a bobber. 4500. spent the next 5 grand on a great vacation with the wife, the spent the final 5 grand on 2 plots at the local cemetary.

it's just the wife and me,  and our fur family


here's another look at thumper.
http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-savage-04-bikepics-388891.jpg

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Jim_R on 09/20/05 at 20:30:50

I like the yamaha vstar series , or kawaski vulcans.  Heck even the honda looks good too.  I would want a motorcycle that I could take on the highway and not worry about either being blown all over the road or have acceleration to actually pass someone.  

Dont get me wrong the Savage is a great bike around town and definitely has some advantages like a very affordable  price, great manueverability, super gas mileage, bulletproof reliability.  It a hard choice but I guess it depends on where u wanna go and if it involves interstate travel.    

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by WD on 09/20/05 at 21:57:36

As you know I gave my Savage to my stepson. I now ride a Kawasaki Vulcan 800A, the model with 21 inch front wheel and Fat Bob style rear fender. We also have a 1996 800 Intruder in the family.

The Vulcan gets the most use. Roomy enough for my 6'2", 220ish pound self to haul my 6'2", 185ish pound stepson on the back if needed. Can run to 100 mph in fourth gear on the highway, and still have 5th (double overdrive) for mileage.  Depending on how I ride, the bike pulls mid-40s to mid-50s mpg. Handles interstate and country lanes equally well (flawlessly with Dunlop 404 tires). Mechanically noisy, but, so is a Savage.

The Intruder is perfect for a 4" margin of height in the comfort department. If you range 5'6" to 5'10",  the bike will fit you quit well. Power is adequate, but, nothing to write home about. A stock Savage will walk all over a stock 800 Intruder. At roughly 90 miles per hour, the bike flat runs out of steam. There is a massive amount of parasitic power loss via the shaft drive and rear differential. The seat is as bad as a Savage seat. Yet, the pillion is more comfortable for most passengers.

What can I say about the Savage? I enjoyed the time I had with mine. That said, I get more enjoyment from watching my son ride it. I'd buy another one.
-WD

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Hammy211 on 09/20/05 at 22:20:40

No offense to anyone, but if I had the money and wanted to spend it I would go for a bigger bike.  But see when I bought the Savage I had the money, just didn't want to spend it which is how I ended up with the Savage.  And I am happy enough with it that I'm glad I saved the 4k or more I would have needed to spend for any significant step up.  Now I sometimes think I would like another bike, but then I think why do that when I still enjoy the Savage and have had so few problems with it.  Of course you situation is a little different.  1.  Your bike is older than mine will probably ever get.  2.  You have "up to 15k,"  don't see that happening around here any time soon.

Is it a space thing that you have to sell the Savage?  I doubt you get hardly anything out of it.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by shawn_b on 09/20/05 at 22:29:48

if it were me i would go with a bigger bike i love the savage but it no perfect look at triumph the bonni is killer only 6999 us 750cc  ::) :ohttp://www.triumph.co.uk/usa/


shawn

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Paladin on 09/20/05 at 23:03:33


HawkEye1967 wrote:
....have considered the vtx 1300 as well as the 1400 intruder have also thought of going with a smaller bike 800 intruder or 750 shadow sprit....other option is to spend up to about half of that on the Savage I have now.....

What do you want out of a Motorcycle?  Bigger is not always better.  What I like is not necessarily what is best for you.

My requirements were low saddle, light weight, not riding in the fetal position.  I am partial to the simplicity of a single cylinder.  Which had me considering the GZ250, LS650, and the Enfield Bullet.  My first choice, the Bullet, is a 49-state bike.

The Savage has all the power and speed I could ever need.  I would like a trailer hitch, a Corbin saddle, and a flat slide carb.  And maybe a taller windscreen for when I do the SS1000.


Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Starlifter on 09/20/05 at 23:38:42

Heck, I would just step up to an S-50 Boulevard.   :)

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by WD on 09/21/05 at 01:20:10

S-50 is just a (slightly) dolled up 800 Intruder.  The M-50 is a fuel injected Marauder 800, the C-50 is an injected Volusia 800. Step-up? The 1600 Marauder (M-90) was a good bike, it was a Kawasaki Mean Streak with a hooded headlight. The C-90 (LC1500 Intruder) is an alright bike. The S-? (1400 Intruder) is pound for pound the fastest of the bunch, but the ergonomics are lousy (1400 cc in an 800 cc frame).

I'd keep the Savage, or update it for a 5 speed version. For primarily around town use or two lane country lanes, with occasional superslab, it's still the best bang for the buck. Or is it BOOM for the buck? If you think the Savage backfires too much, don't buy a Vulcan, they are equipped with an air injection unit. ALL of them. No such thing as a Cali spec Vulcan, they are 50 state legal.
-WD

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Dr_D on 09/21/05 at 03:52:07

Check out the Triumph line. Anything from a twin in the Bonnie derivative line to one of those delicious triples. I have a 99 Legend and it complements the Savage wonderfully. One for cruising, one for go-go and touring.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by red2k1 on 09/21/05 at 05:12:01

HawkEye1967,

Had a similar situation as you but solved it with two bikes.  To me, the Savage is just too good a bike around town and back roads to dump.  The Savage is also simple and fun to work on and is very easy to modify.

I kept the Savage and bought a slightly used Kawasaki Concours with less than 4,000 miles and all kinds of goodies (including electronic cruise control) plus the remainder of a five year warranty for just over $6,000.  For fast highway and mountainous back roads the Concours is great. It is 180 degrees different from the Savage, does its job extraordinarly well and is nearly as bullet-proof as the Savage.

You have the fun kind of problem to solve.


Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by mornhm on 09/21/05 at 05:14:17

As I am looking around, I've pretty much settled on a sport tourer for longer trips. The Savage is still OK for going back and forth to work, and my wife wants me to keep it. The Concours seems to be a great bike for the money. Purchased new, it would fit your plan of not parting with your Savage and still leave some (quite a bit of) change left over. Unfortunately I didn't do the conversion so I don't know how much. The 2006 Concours have been announced, so the prices for 2005 models should go down.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/21/05 at 05:50:46


HawkEye1967 wrote:
Thanks Trippah, bike is mainly for my own use, wife basically won't ride with me until kids are to old to be orphaned, mainly ride in city but want the highway option, not for any rides over say 6ish hours, do take my kids on the bike ages 9 and 3, but either way they would be happy, I just like to ride,will do some of my own maintence, but have a bike doc. that helps me out. most of the mods that are plug and play (within reason) I will do myself, with the help of my bike experts, (this site). have tried the, keep the savage and get another option, have found not a option at all. I still think it would make a good gift for my son when he turns 16, but hey, well money is available, it does not yet grow on any trees I have found, (still looking though).


To be honest, it seems the Savage fits your bill.  Single rider, mostly city with some highway, self-maintained...  That's the Savage alright (legroom requirements/restrictions aside).  I'd say to get some cool stuff for it (or gear for you) and put any remaining cash aside for future use (you could happen upon a great deal when not really looking).

Personally, I don't have a need for a bigger bike and I'd probably only change bikes if I decided to change to a different type... I've considered someday getting a dual-purpose bike that would allow a bit more backroad riding or something like that.  For just street, I'm good.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by vroom1776 on 09/21/05 at 08:39:13

Well, no matter wahat anyone, or me, says, the choice is up to you!

At any rate, I bought a 2004 yamaha Vstar 1100 classic out the door for $8,150, + tax to state, in US funds.  I've put 24k trouble free miles on it, and another 5k on the savage since, though right now the savage is getting more street time.  The bike looks great, runs great, and sounds great.  It handles pretty well, though not quite as well as the savage.  The stock seat height is 28" and I lowered it 2.25", but you can go as low as 5" (which makes it a hardtail) without modifying the frame.  If you do lower it, you really need to put a stiffer spring on there.  Stock seats suck.  Great brakes.  Good stock riding position.  Great riding position after I put some risers on it.  Also, these bikes are air cooled, and can handle it as they have ceramic coated cylinders.  I expect to get at least 100K miles from it.  It has plenty of kick in all gears.  5th gear doesn't have much power until 80 mph, then it goes, so highways are no problem whatsoever.  It is darn near as fast as the 1700 cc Roadstar too (I should say I have a pod air kit and pipes).  It will knock down any 1100 or smaller honda cruiser around (that is not too hopped up), as well as a kawasaki mean streak.  I've ridden my old man's R* and it is quite nice a nice bike too, just a little heavy.  The V* 1100 is about 650 lbs dry, compared to about 750.   Lot's of aftermarket parts and online help, much like the great savage forum here!    ;D   There are some known problems with it, though.  Youi have to remove the front pipe to change the oil (though there are relocation kits), and it is really easy to screw up the starter motor if you can't follow directions.

Now, you mentioned the VTX 1300.  My take:  never ridden one, but I think they, and its brother the 1800, have no soul, just torque (now if there is a bike that has soul [and torque] everyone on this forum owns one! :D ).  There is a lot of plastic on it and it is liquid cooled. Bleh.  :(  but that is really just a "looks" type of thing.  

Again, but what you like!  And congrats on getting a new ride or pimping out the savage!

So in a shameless attempt to see more V* 1100s on the road, I will finish with a pic of my 1100.  It still looks mroe or less like this...

http://bikepics.com/pics/pics/yamaha-xvs1100-04-bikepics-427625.jpg

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by WD on 09/21/05 at 09:00:41

Rob is planning to keep the Savage, but turn it into a show type bike. He wants an 1100 Classic V-Star for his daily ride. That's okay, my 800 Vulcan will take him... ;D

All kidding aside, V-Stars and Vulcans are really the only midsize v-twins worth looking at. The newer Suzuki twins are alright, Sportster is a joke (still), the Shadows tend to shake themselves apart. Big Twins? Overweight , underpowered, underbraked. I work in the bike industry, I keep track of this stuff. My job depends on it.

Off to the trenches. Keep the discussion going...interesting thread.
-WD

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by vroom1776 on 09/21/05 at 09:05:10

WD,

I've got to agree with you 100%.   ;D  Though I must say a pal of mine has a Volusia 800 and is quite happy with it.  It seems to be pretty quick, but I do not like the looks.

Oh,  I'd also like to add that when I bought my V*,  I was thinking about trading it in, and they offered me 3k for it.  Well, I still have my savage and I'm soooo glad I did not trade it in, though it is now for sale for $20,000.  If soemone will pay that much for it, they can have it (maybe)!  And I'll go buy a new savage and a triumph speed triple!

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by savage777 on 09/21/05 at 09:32:53

If you have 15,000 to spend I would go HD or Triumph fer sure

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Dynobob on 09/21/05 at 09:35:24

Get the vtx 1300. It's a fantastic bike. It has a single pin crank so it sounds a bit like a Harley. It is super reliable with it's watercooling and Honda build quality. While a 750 would be a bit better than the LS650 on the highway, the difference isn't that great. I ride both, so I speak from experience. Go with the VTX and I can assure you you will be very happy if you spend much time on the superslab.

I love the LS650 and riding one around town is awesome. For traveling and taking trips, the VTX is hard to beat.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by HawkEye1967 on 09/21/05 at 20:52:04

Thanks, for all the postive imput, :) I think that this will take me over the winter before I come up with a definite decision, right now I am leaning towards fixing up the Savage, I can't quite picture myself getting rid of her. but instead of buying a "new" bike, buying a new to me bike and keeping the savage. (thanks red2k1).
I would like to have some more power, my stock Savage only goes about 127kph or like about 78 mph, not a speed fanatic just a adreneline junkie. only issues as such that I have with my bike now is.
1) top end speed for highway use.
2) more leg room, I am 6' tall
3) better seat, to help with monkey butt.
I am aware that all of these issues can be fixed with the info I have found on this site.
also I just like the lines of the Savage.  
I love listening to non riders give me grief about my "small" bike, given what they ride. ;D  

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by WD on 09/21/05 at 23:13:34

A bike for every day of the week is just about right... I bought my 800 used, out the door (tax, title, license, and around $1K USD worth of accessories) for $4650. I've put a hair over 700 miles on it in 3 weeks, mostly commuting. I've got a friend with a brand new C-50, with nearly $2500 in accessories, who wants to straight trade. I'm keeping the Vulcan.

I've got someone locally who can stretch a Savage frame, no problem. Hardtail or functional suspension, same price.  Lifetime guarantee on his welds and added tubing.

Test sit every bike you can over the winter. I'd bet money (if I had any), that you'll have a Vulcan, V-Star 1100, or your Savage come spring. You'd be amazed what a simple bar swap and recovered seat will do for the Savage.
-WD

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by PerrydaSavage on 09/22/05 at 03:44:22

8)This is a very interesting discussion for sure! Bike preference/choice is a very personal thing, affected by an infinite variety of factors ... most of which have been discussed already. as others have said, if most of a person's Riding is city or boulevard cruising ... then the LS650 does that job very well!
The Kawi Vulcan 800A that WD rides is an interesting bike ... H.D. Softail Standard-type styling in an affordable, Japanese-built package ... interestingly for '06 Kawi has dropped both the 800A & 800B (Classic) models in favour of a new Vulcan 900, with styling borrowed from the Vulc 2000 and with a belt-drive instead of chain ... sounds like Kawi could have a winner on their hands with this one ... if only they'd offer it with the "Softail Standard" looks too ...

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by vroom1776 on 09/22/05 at 09:03:40

If you decide to go used,  I would go to a bike specific site and ask folks about known problems to look for.  For example, V*s are known to have starter issues, and if the biek has twisted starter bolts, you probably want to avoid that particular one...

BTW, at 6' tall, the V* 1100 in stock form may be a hair small for you.  But  you can get floorboard of footpeg extensions cheap.  Risers and/or new bars...  But at $8k USD, new,  you still have cash left over for goodies...  I bet you can get one for $6k used, or maybe a little cheaper if you're patient...

At any rate,  off season and at the end of the month is a good time to get a deal on a motorcyle from a dealership...

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Trippah on 09/22/05 at 19:25:42

This is the most interesting topic- aside from who is the prettiest movie star.  :D Since I have a simiar set of needs I'll mention that the two bikes I've been thnking of for the past two years are the Bonnie T-100 and the Moto Guzzi Breva/Euro style and its sister the "cruiser" Nevada.  Yes that could be three.  I like belts  or shaft drive for their cleanliness. If they come out with a belt. coversion for the T-100.  I think  the slightly larger engine might be desireable. If Moto Guzzi stays in buissness, the Breva has had rave reviews and the Nevada is a good Italian version of cruiser. If you can, arrange test drives. 1/2 hour in the saddle will tell you a lot. I just got my Savage this year, as money is an issue. Relearning/getting back into (onto) motorcycles is so much fun.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by vroom1776 on 09/23/05 at 08:06:37

I got to ride my friend's moto guzzi cruiser.  I think it is the california.  ???  Anyway,  a very tall bike,  lots of power, and  comfortable for the 20 minute ride I took.  Sounded like it was falling apart, though.  She said "that's how it's supposed to sound."  Me: "You need pipes."  Her: "Up yours." us: "hahaha"  You can really lean this bike in the twisties, too.  Not a lot of aftermarket parts (at least to my knowledge), but that's not a problem for us savage owners!  Not many folks who will work on them, either, for those of us not inclined to do our own work.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Greg_650 on 09/23/05 at 15:32:20


HawkEye1967 wrote:
Okay here's the deal, wife has agreed to my buying a new motorcycle  :o, basically any thing I want up to about the $15 000.00 range (max amount, also in canadian funds.)  have considered the vtx 1300 as well as the 1400 intruder have also thought of going with a smaller bike 800 intruder or 750 shadow sprit.  but to do this I have to sell the Savage :'(.  other option is to spend up to about half of that on the Savage I have now, which is a 1986 LSF.  bike is stock but would be allowed to buy whatever toys I like ;D. raask muffler, k and N filter new carb, windshield, lightbar, forward controls, etc.

Both options have a lot of appeal, love my baby, but could learn to love another (life taught me that)

So the question of the day is what would you do? 8)


Ride the bike that YOU want to ride.... ;D

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by HawkEye1967 on 09/23/05 at 18:57:44


Quote:
Ride the bike that YOU want to ride....  

problem is I can't afford to buy all the bikes I want to ride, so need to narrow the choices down just a wee bit, have been checking out the 800 Vulcan,like the lines, That bike I have looked at a lot in the last couple years, but kinda have a Kawasaki issue, did not like them as I grew up (not that I have grown up ;D, just aged a weebit). so maybe time to reconsider my out of date opinions on some things. :P

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Greg_650 on 09/24/05 at 08:39:08


HawkEye1967 wrote:

problem is I can't afford to buy all the bikes I want to ride, so need to narrow the choices down just a wee bit, have been checking out the 800 Vulcan,like the lines, That bike I have looked at a lot in the last couple years, but kinda have a Kawasaki issue, did not like them as I grew up (not that I have grown up ;D, just aged a weebit). so maybe time to reconsider my out of date opinions on some things. :P


Okay.  How about this?  Buy a bike that isn't like anyone else's.

Speedmaster (http://www.triumph.co.uk/usa/330.aspx)

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by sluggo on 09/24/05 at 20:48:02


Greg_650 wrote:



Speedmaster (http://www.triumph.co.uk/usa/330.aspx)


i'de bob that baby in a minute. yeah...  


Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Greg_650 on 09/25/05 at 07:22:59


sluggo wrote:


i'de bob that baby in a minute. yeah...  


Yep.  With all the V-twins out there, a parallel twin would have to be MY choice....the Speedmaster is around $8K and pretty cool looking.  I sat on one last weekend.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by HawkEye1967 on 05/08/08 at 12:33:01

I know this is a very old post but here goes have put some money into the savage, then dumped the savage due to not paying attention, sold savage for 100 less then what I paid for it about 10 years ago, and this Saturday headed off to Calgary to buy 2007 vulcan 900 Classic Lt.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Keith_T on 05/08/08 at 12:47:04


537A6C705E627E2A222D2C1B0 wrote:
I know this is a very old post but here goes have put some money into the savage, then dumped the savage due to not paying attention, sold savage for 100 less then what I paid for it about 10 years ago, and this Saturday headed off to Calgary to buy 2007 vulcan 900 Classic Lt.

I put down a deposit on a new 06 900 last month.  Then I decided not to spend as much money and got the Savage.  I like the Savage a lot, but get bummed when I see a 900 in town.  Very nice bike for the money.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by KenGLong on 05/08/08 at 16:32:16

My dream bike these days would have to be something that is designed for the long haul but not as cushy as a Goldwing. I really really like the Honda ST1300. That would be my dream bike this year. A good used one would be well inside your price range. Heck, even a new one would come in right around the upper end of your budget.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Trippah on 05/08/08 at 20:39:25

Was curious what happened to you and your decision.  Hope the new ride treats you well, keep us posted :D.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Max_Morley on 05/08/08 at 21:09:39

Ken, G, interesting comment about the Honda ST1300. I see our county sheriff's are mounted on new ones this year. The deal with HD must have expired and I know they went to bid 2 or 3 times to get 6 bikes for the troops. They are plan white, small LED light packages, a holster for the radar gun on the tank side and "SHERIFF" in small barely contrasting letters on the side of the hard bags. Be hard to pick them out of the crowd on the road. Max

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by Rockin_John on 05/08/08 at 23:35:28

Hawkeye, I'm betting you made a good choice for your stated needs.

I've been searching later model and new bikes for the last couple of years, and I also have "past history" with both Honda and Kawasaki which left me favoring the other two large Japanese builders for many years.

Here's a short list of some of the bikes that I entertained the idea of buying in the last few years. Some are brand new models and others might be considered 'odd' by some people... But my general criteria were along the lines this thread had been describing: A bike a bit larger and more powerful than the Savage, without getting into the huge honking tanks that seem to be appearing at every stoplight lately. IOW... in the 750cc-1300cc range without getting into the silly 1600cc-2000cc+ 800 pound monstrosities.

The Honda 1100 Shadow: Excellent reputation, and due to two pin crank and twin carbs, known to run with bikes of larger displacement. Decided against it when I started thinking about the prospect of having to work on those two carbs jammed up under everything else.

Started looking at the VTX1300 due to its seemingly more simplistic build, but then I discovered something about the Honda bikes... Their fuel mileage sucks! Even the 1100-1300 only get in the 30mpg range! Heck my wifes old Plymouth can get over 30mpg out on the highway.

Realized that a lot of the newer FI bikes, Including the H-Ds are getting much better mileage than the Honda offerings. I dunno what the Kawa is getting, but even some of the large displacement H-D bikes with FI are getting 50mpg on the highway!

Since I've been wanting something to haul junk around on (a "grocery getter") I looked into the former Kawa 805cc Drifter, which I really like the looks of; and if I found a deal too good to pass up I might still want to try one for a while. Same goes with the Super Scooter looking Honda Pacific Coast 800 (A big attraction is the humongous trunk!) While I think actual high speed scooters like the Bergman 650 are just an accident waiting to happen; because of the small wheels and HUGE holes in the roads around here; I think the PC800 could probably survive our roads with some care. But I think the high speed small scooters of late are downright death traps; no kidding.

And even though I keep looking at all these other bikes as time goes by... (I have a current fascination with the Kawasaki Versys). I'll certainly keep at least one, and probably two of my three Savages. I've had a fairly wide variety of bikes in my life, and very few have offered the smiles per dollar ratio of the Savage.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by FreeSpirit on 05/09/08 at 01:05:17

Sorry for this post,but ....

WD said "A stock Savage will walk all over a stock 800 Intruder"

Is this TRUE ??

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by bill67 on 05/09/08 at 06:47:44

  FreeSpirit I had a vx 800 same motor puts out about twice the horsepower as the s40,It would run all over the s40 easy

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by willrph on 05/10/08 at 14:32:14

 Just want to add my two cents.  I use the bike as my daily commute as much as possible (great way to end and start the work day).  The Savage is great in the city and it seems to perform fine on the superslab.
  I was considering trading it in for a Marauder, but really could not justify the decision.  Still riding the rock solid single and happy for it.  In the end I thought I would look cooler on the bigger bike.  Thank goodness I came to my senses and dropped the cool factor for the fun factor.  
 I believe the the tough decision you need to make will be based on your current creature comfort with the Savage and how you will ride her.  Altough my experience is limited,
 Make a list of the must haves in a bike and compare it to the Savage and the larger bike.  Good luck

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by drharveys on 05/10/08 at 14:43:55


233D383826243C540 wrote:
 
 Make a list of the must haves in a bike and compare it to the Savage and the larger bike.  Good luck


Yes, start a spread sheet, one column for the Savage's plusses, another for the minuses, do the same for the bigger bike, then add a column for quantifying the differences between them for each entry.  Now toss in an overall column, then total up the differences.

Now, having carefully evaluated and quantified and listed and compared --

THROW AWAY THE SPREADSHEET AND GO WITH YOUR GUT!


You haven't wasted your time with the spreadsheet -- it's purpose is to get you thinking and feeling while you do all the busy work.  It provides a structure to hang your thoughts on, not a definitive answer.


Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by HawkEye1967 on 05/10/08 at 21:23:54

Thanks All, Just brought the Vulcan home today from Calgary, AB. 12 hour round trip, Bike spent most of the time in the truck due to lack of Tags, Rode her for about 4 Kms with my friend right behind me to cover up the fact of no plates, luckily am able to get plates tomorrow (Mothers Day Sunday) Will always have a spot in my heart for the Savage it was my first real Love (Bike wise) and I thank all of you for all of your response's Wisdom and humor over the last ? years I have always felt at home here, and will probably still visit just because.
God Bless
Hawkeye

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by LANCER on 05/11/08 at 04:35:13

Dude, keep us up to date with your riding reports...how it feels to you...power & responsisveness...comfort...handling...can you mount a video cam?   :D

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by vroom1776 on 05/11/08 at 06:07:47

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Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by YonuhAdisi on 05/11/08 at 09:55:30

A friend at work has a M109R, indicated on the speedo is 150mph. It is fast but we still have the torque.

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by savagestyle on 05/11/08 at 18:01:02

new to the site but i have been following it for some time.....just bought a 2005 savage for 800.00 about a month ago.....have already put 1200 miles on it....absolutely love it

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by savagestyle on 05/11/08 at 18:07:09

ive been reading alot of the comments about the savage being under powered for the highway.......i havent found that to be the case at all ..... i can cruise with my stock savage at 80 85 from saint augustine florida to fernandina beach wich is a good 65 70 miles one way without any problems....how much faster do you need to go

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by HawkEye1967 on 05/26/08 at 12:26:37

8-)Just come back from Edmonton Road trip with the Vulcan 900 Classic LT. about 1150kms round trip, first real test of bike, found the ride to be quite nice, power was there on request but did not seem to have a power spot, approx. equal though the whole throttle range, seat,floorboards and windshield, made for a comfortable ride, (still had S.A.S or N.A.S (Sore/Numb A$$ Syndrom) after awhile, just not as bad as the Savage. did not try to find the top end, only took it up to about 140 km/hr but found that to be enough, on my Savage could not really get above 125 km/hr. bike never seemed to have to work for whatever I asked of her. Found the Savage to still be more manouverable (bad spelling) still think that the savage was awesome for in-city use but this new ride is more multi-use for my needs at this time. (More Passenger Friendly and Highway use)Sorry Lancer, I don't have a Cam and or the knowledge to mount and use one.
Thanks
Hawk-eye ;D

Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 05/26/08 at 14:01:04


71787D7A7C617D7C120 wrote:
new to the site but i have been following it for some time.....just bought a 2005 savage for 800.00 about a month ago.....have already put 1200 miles on it....absolutely love it


You got an 05 for $800.00? Wowzaas! Thats about 2,000 below what it should have been.

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