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Title: Engine just died Post by janeforbes on 09/13/05 at 05:43:28 :( I am brand new to this site, just registered. I have a 1995 Savage which I love. Just had the carb cleaned because it was hesitating and backfires. Runs better now ,BUT, this weekend i had been riding for only about 20 minutes, had gas, and the engine just died on the highway going about 65mph. Pulled over and it started up an ran OK. Did it 2 more times on the way home. No sputtering at all, just dies. Any suggestions anyone? Thanks for your help! |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by Savage_Rob on 09/13/05 at 05:53:17 First, welcome to the forum! Next, a few questions to hopefully help others help you... Is the bike stock? If not, what functional mods have been made to the bike? How long have you had the bike? How was it running before the carb was cleaned? Had you recently added gas and was it from a place you normally get gas? Anyone else have some pertinent questions, please add 'em. Let's see if we can start off with info instead of playing the guess/question/guess/question game. With the note about no sputtering, I am inclined to lean toward an intermittent electrical issue but I'd hate to jump to conclusions. |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by lancer on 09/13/05 at 06:40:10 Sounds like the source of the problem is electircal......look for loose wires & connectors that would break their contacts, or worn insulation on wires that would cause a short. |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by janeforbes on 09/13/05 at 08:48:23 Thanks for the suggestions, I will check out the elect. connections. The bike is stock. Is a 1995 that has only 2000 miles on it. I bought it about 3 months ago. had been sitting in a garage for a long while . Before the carb was cleaned it ran very rough- hesitated and back fired. Carb jets where clogged and they said heavy varnish in the carb. Same gas that I alwasy buy. Does run much smoother now. Why would it start right back up again after it died? |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by gandalph40 on 09/13/05 at 08:57:34 Check the electrics first. If not that, you might have a crack in the fuel line going from the petc0ck to the carb...just enough leakage to cause it to occasionally lose the vacuum and hence have no fuel. If it was sitting up for a while, it would be worth it to check. Could also conceivably be the petc0ck itself going bad. Welcome to the board! Tom |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by GaThumper on 09/13/05 at 14:47:47 If it's not sputtering, then there is a good chance it's electrical. One thing to check is the kill switch on the side stand. Vibrations and bumps could be shaking the side stand enough to kill the ignition. It shouldn't do it, but it is worth checking. You can check & clean the kill switch on the handlebars as well and also remove your seat and check all the connections there. |
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Title: sits. Re: Engine just died Post by Ed_L. on 09/13/05 at 15:23:42 When riding check where your left foot sits. I was hitting the kick stand with my heel and shutting off my bike (You know what they say about big feet ;D). First time it happened I didn't have a clue, took half the electrical apart trouble shooting till I read a post about the same thing happening to another rider. Luck with it |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by Dynobob on 09/13/05 at 21:28:00 Welcome to the forum :) Check the cable connections to your battery. Make sure they're tight and clean. The petc0ck has been known to give people trouble. When the bike starts acting weird turn the petc0ck to "Prime" and see if the problem vanishes. If it does, your petc0ck is bad. The other thing that comes to mind is the gas cap vent. Since the gas had time to varnish, the vent might be plugged up. When it's acting weird, loosen or remove the cap and see if it alleviates the problem. If you hear a rush of air from a vacuum when you loosen the cap, it is stopped up. |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by janeforbes on 09/14/05 at 04:32:10 Thanks to all of your for your suggestions. This is an awesome site!! I will check the easy stuff first, before I take the seat off again. Will keep you posted. Jane :) |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by janeforbes on 09/14/05 at 04:51:19 I forgot to ask. What is the purpose of the prime, what does it do?, when do you use it? I can't find it described in my manual. Not very mechanically inclined. Thanks :) |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by Reelthing on 09/14/05 at 05:04:29 Welcome. The seat is very easy to remove - two bolts and this will give you access to the problem connectors to check. Normal operation of the petc0ck in on or res requires vacuum from the engine to let any fuel flow - pri is a bypass for this vacuum operation and let's gas free flow from the tank engine running or not - so you depend on the float in the carb to shut off the flow - but if that float sticks open or the needle valve seat it closes has a problem you free flow gas everywhere. It's purpose is to fill the carb if you have run out of gas, or drained it, or the bike has been setting a long time, or to trouble shoot the petc0ck's operation |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by Savage_Rob on 09/14/05 at 06:10:22 janeforbes wrote:
Reelthing already answered most of this but I thought I'd add that the main operational difference between On and Prime is that On uses vacuum to facilitate flow while Prime is basically a gravity feed. That way, On requires the engine to be running for continuous flow. It basically keeps it from flooding the carb (and possibly overflowing) while not running. |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by GaThumper on 09/14/05 at 07:46:12 Dynobob wrote:
The petc0ck could be bad, but it could just be a case of a kinked vacuum line, which is what happened to me a while back. It took just a few seconds to fix once I figured out the problem. |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by janeforbes on 09/14/05 at 08:06:39 thats the tubing from the petc0ck to the carb? Please excuse my ignorance. |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by Reelthing on 09/14/05 at 08:56:29 there's 2 - one comes out of the bottom of the petc0ck and pretty much goes straight down to the left side (port) of the carb this is the fuel line - the other connects into the back side of the petc0ck valve , cross over and connects to the carb on the rightside (starboard) this is the vacuum line. |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by janeforbes on 09/14/05 at 09:34:48 thank you! :) |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by Dynobob on 09/14/05 at 10:46:35 janeforbes wrote:
I explained it pretty well in another thread. "On" is basically automatic operation. When there's vacuum (starting or running), the fuel flows. When bike is off it doesn't. Quote:
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by GaThumper on 09/17/05 at 05:28:46 Have you been able to find the problem yet? |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by janeforbes on 09/19/05 at 04:47:54 This is very strange. I have ridden some by myself recently , which I usually do and have no probelm at all. It only does this when there are 2 people on the bike. Runs fine with only me on it. Does this make any sense at all? Haven't had the time to check it out with everyones suggestions. |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by GaThumper on 09/19/05 at 05:33:00 Remove the seats & check the electrical componets & connections, particularly under the pillion seat. |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by janeforbes on 09/19/05 at 07:50:27 Thanks- will try that when i get back from vacation next week. Excuse me, but what is the pillion seat? |
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Title: Re: Engine just died Post by GaThumper on 09/19/05 at 08:00:41 It's the back (passenger) seat. |
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