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Title: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't exist? Post by Kaishaku on 06/21/05 at 07:52:30 I seem to keep asking myself questions like this because, even though I really like everything I've heard about the Savage, it seems too small for me to me comfortable on for very long (stock, anyway). So, what would you ride if the Savage 650 didn't exist? Or, what bike could be considered the 'big sister' of the Savage? (I really like the looks of the Volusia 800, and shaft drive would be fantastic) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by WD on 06/21/05 at 08:06:48 1936 Crocker. HD 6 volt Big Twin. Honda air cooled CB. Yamaha Maxim or Special. British vertical twin from the 1960s. Kawasaki KZ1000 Police. Suzuki air cooled GS. Other than the Savage, those are the only bikes I'd consider. Pretty much in that order. Chain driven only. Chopper/bobber versions there of. WITH kicker, WITHOUT electric starter. -WD |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by jendesigner on 06/21/05 at 08:13:23 This one is easy for me to answer, I just bought the Volusia to go along with my Savage. It is good bike for longer traveling. My goal is to travel route 66 from beginning to end before I turn 50, this bike should help me do that. I bought the Mustang seat and I couldn't be happier. Plenty of power (someday maybe a hyper charger, can't leave it stock, that's not fun). If this is an option for you check out Volusiariders.com, it's a great site, like this one, there are used bikes there all the time. That's how I found mine. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by vroom1776 on 06/21/05 at 08:32:37 VStar 1100. Oh wait, I've already got one! Decided I'd better gat a bigger/faster bike after I rode muy savage 5000 miles in 5 days. Hahaha. On that trip, the cam adjuster broke with 800 miles to go. Despite running like garbage, it still made it too! What a bike! Still ride my savage... way faster in the twisties... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Paladin on 06/21/05 at 08:55:20 You mention that the Savage seems too small -- that's the reason I picked the Savage. The second choice bike a toss between a 250 Virago and the GZ250, with the GZ250 winning because it was a single. Assuming extended high speed cruising, assuming no LS650 available, assuming a new bike, assuming California where the Enfield Bullet is not CARB cerfitied: The next step up in the Suzi line is liquid cooled and thus rejected. As are the Kaws. And Honda. Which dumps me onto a Yamaha V-Star Custom 650 air-cooled Carbureted 474 pounds curb weight. Except that's a shaftie. So I would probably end up on a Triumph Bonneville T-100. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by PerrydaSavage on 06/21/05 at 08:58:34 What would I Ride if the LS650 weren't available? Well from todays new-Bike marketplace, it would likely be either 'Zuki's S50, Hyosung's GV650 Aquila (gawd I hate that name ...) or possibly the V-Star 650 Custom ... maybe a Harley 883L Sportster. From models no longer available as new ... Honda's GB500TT or CMX450 Rebel, or Kawasaki's W650 ... love the looks of the Vulcan 800A too ... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by grail21 on 06/21/05 at 10:33:34 I think about this far too often….if this was limited to “new, production bikes”…. 1 – Triumph America – 790cc, 500lbs, air cooled and hey, it’s a triumph. I’ve yet to sit on one and I’ve had friends tell me they’re pretty big – but other wise they sounds close to perfect. 2 – Suzuki Marauder – Chain driven, air cooled, 800cc Model. The new s50 looks nice and all, but liquid cooled, plus shaft drive = no. 3 – I’d “possibly” consider a Sportster, but would end up chopping it to such an extreme it would probably not be worth it, especially because when all was said and done, it would still be a Sportster. More than likely I will end up picking some basketcase bike and just rebuilding it from the ground up, maybe a xs650 or something similar. Sounds like more fun, but there is also a part of me that wouldn’t mind picking up a brand new shiny bike right off the show room floor, warranty and all – especially a Triumph. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Kaishaku on 06/21/05 at 10:46:33 What's wrong with shaft drive and liquid cooled motors? (No, I really want to know! I'm basing a large part of my research on which bikes are the most durable and lowest maintenance) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Reelthing on 06/21/05 at 11:31:00 I'd go get a victory 8-ball maybe - Like um a lot |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/21/05 at 11:46:02 Kaishaku wrote:
Shaft-drive is probably the lowest maintenance final drive available though it costs more in the first place and could get expensive if anything actually went wrong. Liquid cooling is more efficient than air/oil cooling but obviously takes more to maintain. It also adds to the bike's initial cost. I like the Savage's system because of its simplicity; To me, it's sort of like a preference for a manual transmission over an automatic. There's less to go wrong in the first place and in many cases, I could actually work on it myself. With greater complexity comes an increase in initial cost and a decrease in my ability to effect maintenance myself. As with automatic transmissions, if the design and technology are sufficiently mature and the manufacturer builds with quality, the maintenance is very low. But then, wrenching is part of the hobby for me... You know, Zen and the Art of.......... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Kaishaku on 06/21/05 at 12:44:28 Ah so. I just dislike that no matter what I do I can never get the chain really clean. :P One thing I'd love to have is hydraulically adjusted valves! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by sluggo on 06/21/05 at 13:24:29 actually i've never even considered the issue, my last machine was an 81 gn400 the savages older brother, i got 98,000 miles on it before it gave up the ghost. it was a no brainer to buy the savage. so to answer your question. the 650 bmw thumper. because who really needs more than one cylinder. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Kaishaku on 06/21/05 at 13:55:45 Ability to easily pass 100 mph has been a criterion for every bike I've considered. Why? Because even the slowest, POS, Hyundai econobox can do it, and I always have nightmares about getting run over in a Mad Max-like chase by a Hyundai. So, yeah, I guess some of my considerations are just a little impractical or at least more emotional than anything. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Paladin on 06/21/05 at 14:09:11 Kaishaku wrote:
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple, Stupid! I like simple because when it does break, and everything eventually breaks, I can fix it myself rather than taking it to a dealer and/or finding out that the replacement part(s) are no longer available. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by RadarORiley on 06/21/05 at 14:23:00 If I couldn't have another Savage, I'd look at a Ridley, saw one in town the other day, the rider was a short fat old lady -- just like me. It sits low and I wouldn't have to worry about shifting when my joints hurt. It would be like riding an old Cushman! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by sluggo on 06/21/05 at 14:32:01 Kaishaku wrote:
if you read my top speed post of yesterday i did make 96 totally stock laying prone, so it's close and will be there after the performance mods |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Kaishaku on 06/21/05 at 15:18:29 I like KISS, but I also like RIMCS -- Redundancy In Mission-Critical Systems. I figure if one cylinder stops firing on my current bike, I can still limp home on the other one. ;D Thanks for all the comments! (Still digging that Volusia 800. Except for its weight!) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by tgooding on 06/21/05 at 15:37:42 S50K5 |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by sluggo on 06/21/05 at 17:21:12 Kaishaku wrote:
on paper that sound like a winner, in the real world my experience has shown if one goes down, they all go down. has anybody ever heard of a twin or quad "limping home" on one... i loved to hear from ya |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by babbalou on 06/21/05 at 18:42:42 Triumph Bonneville T100. 1st choice Ducati Monster 2nd choice |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by WD on 06/21/05 at 21:56:17 There isn't anything wrong per se with shaft drive or liquid cooling. Unless you like/have to ride on dirt roads. The only shaft drive I ever killed (well, obliterated, totalled, completely f'n destroyed to be honest) was a BMW R50. When the shaft let go, the frame basically exploded. Along with the transmission. And the cush drive. Ever "hole" a bike radiator or aluminum cylinder coolant passage? Just as an FYI, a USED VS800 radiator is close to 2 bills... Hondas are much more expensive... Buy what you like. ALL bikes have their strong AND weak points, regardless of drive system. Me? I'll NEVER buy another belt or shaft driven bike. I like the low maintenance factor, however, the repair bills are WAY too pricey when something does eventually go "T.U.". -WD Give me a CB750 (any letter code is fine) or a 6 volt kick only V-twin and I'm a happy biker. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by sniperjim on 06/21/05 at 22:06:00 BOSS HOSS!!!! ;D502 c.i. Size does Matter |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by PerrydaSavage on 06/22/05 at 00:40:26 Varied bunch of choices everyone! Since the price of gasoline is outrageous here these days ($1.03CDN per liter) ... fuel for "toys" such as m/c's along with fuel for the cages + 5% hike in electricity rates and climbing costs of groceries (see related fuel cost ...) ... well it's all startin' to hurt ... am seriously considering selling my beloved Savage and buying a 150cc scooter ... a more pratical commuter, very stingy on fuel and I still get my 2-wheeled fun (sort of ...) :( |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by lancer on 06/22/05 at 03:41:59 Please understand that I would never part with my Savage...too emotionally attached to it. (On my morning ride day before yesterday, on a very nice long straight stretch of country road I had the needle buried past the 100 mark...the cheap tach bounces a bit above 6500 so don't know the exact rpm...but was sitting bolt upright doing it( But if I had the $$ today, I would order one of the new Nortons. Norton 952 961cc 80 hp 70 lb/ft torque Brembo brakes...front and rear Ohlins forks up front and shocks in the rear 4.5 gal tank (wouldn't that be nice) And....all of that is just 415 lbs. Price is somewhere around $17k Man o man, what a ride that would be....fast....quick...stops...turns...take any bump in the road.....it is a bike to be riden.......AND it LOOKS like a motorcycle should look, not all covered over with plastic wallpaper. www.nortonmotorcycles.com http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/images/home_top1.jpg http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/images/home_bottom.jpg Is this not a beautiful machine? I have a picture posted on the wall.......SOMEDAY. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/22/05 at 06:46:22 sluggo wrote:
Nope. But I do know of an 8-cylinder cage that became a 7-cylinder with a cypress stump that worked just fine. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by GITARZAN on 06/22/05 at 13:04:52 This: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~gitarzan/redbird/redbird1.jpg Oh wait... I already do. ;D |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/22/05 at 13:22:17 LOL, nice Git. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Kaishaku on 06/22/05 at 17:31:12 Makes sense! I may reconsider my position on cleaning chains. Gitarzan: That thing is beautiful! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by sluggo on 06/22/05 at 17:41:46 Savage_Rob wrote:
wasn't there a 4 cyl dodge valiant, that was just half a v8.. so for cages it can work. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Max_Morley on 06/22/05 at 19:32:04 Probably a Royal Enfield 500 or BMW 650, or maybe one of the Muzzy single dual sports. Max |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by klx650sm2002 on 06/23/05 at 04:37:41 I ride a KLX650 supermoto converted in 2002, it fits me, I'm 6'3" and 210 ish,(used to be 262). Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Reelthing on 06/23/05 at 04:56:20 sluggo wrote:
in highschool for about 6 months I had a Tempst that was 1/2 a 389 By the way a newer vmax showed up at work yesterday - that's certainly a clean lines bike |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/23/05 at 06:25:26 Reelthing wrote:
I was just about to say that myself. I really like the look of the V-Max. http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/products/mcy/500/06_VMAX_blk_3.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Reelthing on 06/23/05 at 07:54:05 but of course you have to dump the stock exhaust - and I'm sure rejet the 4 mikuni's |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/23/05 at 08:02:08 Reelthing wrote:
LOL! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by WD on 06/23/05 at 08:05:02 Ah yes, the good old V-Max. One of the better muscle cruisers to come out of the 1980s. Toyota actually pinched a V-Max feature for the Generation 7 Celica GT-S, the "lift" that comes on over 5K on the tach, as in, that extra kick in the butt from the higher flowing secondary air intake system. There is a shop in Florida that sells a twin turbo kit for the bike as well. AND a supercharger.... The V-Max/Royal Star V4... in essence, 1/2 of a K-code Mustang/Cobra 289 turned sideways...and then miniaturized to suit... Good bike, the ergonomics aren't great though. -WD |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by slavy on 06/23/05 at 10:32:38 If I did not have the Savage, I'd ride something elce of my stable- Rebel 250 or Bandit 600 with GSXR750 engine for the city and ZX11 or GSX1100G for long rides. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by TBeck2000 on 06/23/05 at 10:33:43 WD wrote:
Just as a point of information, Yamaha actually produces many of Toyota's twincam engines today, as they did in the 80s and 90s. The 1998cc turbocharged engine in my 1991 Toyota MR2 says "Yamaha" right on it. On topic, I'm not sure what other bike I would ride because the Savage is my first bike and I haven't gotten it out of the driveway yet (just got my permit yesterday). |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/23/05 at 10:55:41 TBeck2000 wrote:
Congratulations! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Red_Wine on 06/23/05 at 12:42:24 I'd ride a Suzuki Marauder, if I could afford it and the SO lets me ;) RW |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Karen627 on 06/23/05 at 23:46:17 TBeck2000, what Savage Rob said. Congrats -- you'll love that bike. ;D What would I personally ride? I'm curious about the Rebel -- it looks like fun, but I don't know how well it would do on the hills near me. As far as something bigger, though, maybe the 2006 Boulevard M50 in blue, if I thought I could handle the weight. The M50 looks like the Savage's big, heavily-armed sister. I have no idea. And oddly, now that I think about it, I don't have that much interest in anything else. I'm really happy with mine. :) Kaishaku, for your purposes, the Volusia might work. Have you ridden one yet? |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/24/05 at 06:14:06 That really is a tough question. The Intruder is probably about as close in general looks to the Savage as anything but it's just not the same. I do like the bike though. Today, if I didn't have a Savage, I'd probably opt for either a V-Max (http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/products/mcy/500/06_VMAX_blk_4.jpg) or 8-Ball (http://pi54.com//Victory/Gallery/8-BALL_1.jpg). |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by lancer on 06/24/05 at 06:49:14 I test rode a Victory Vegas a while back (same as the 8-Ball, less chrome and add some black paint) and I really enjoyed that ride. It has plenty of very smooth power, rides comfortably and handles well for a big bike. It would be a an excellent choice for long range travel, or just blasting around town. I was impressed with it. The 8-Ball starts at about $12k...not bad... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Bluejeanz on 06/24/05 at 19:40:16 Kaishaku wrote:
My other bike is the Intruder VS800. Nice bike! I like the shaft drive and the liquid cool. The bike runs great, sounds great, and makes me very happy. But for real fun, I still jump on the Savage and hit the twisties. But then again, like RadarORiley, I'm a short, fat old lady and the Savage fits me just fine. So does the Intruder. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Greg_650 on 06/25/05 at 08:46:50 klx650sm2002 wrote:
I was shopping for 2 bikes at the time and this is what I was looking at when I bought the Savage. The biggest reason that I didn't get this one is due to the seat height which was too high for my newbie spouse. http://www.suzukicycles.com/images/gallery/DR650SEK5/photos/DR650SEK5B.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by dannimal on 06/25/05 at 14:17:35 HD V-Rod (if I actually had the funds for one) or Triumph Bonneville America will do fine. :) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Mr 650 on 06/25/05 at 17:18:12 today??.... I think some kind of naked crotch rocket- TL, SV, 'Busa, (FJR is close) converted to a more UJM layout w/ decent fairing and bags or maybe some the like the big KTM 900 single. Something else tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by WD on 06/25/05 at 19:49:44 Full dress KZ1300. Got one in today at the shop. Inline SIX!!! Or a CB750 Super Sport. Notice a trend here ??? :-/ ;) Just something right about a CB four... -WD |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Reelthing on 06/25/05 at 20:47:46 Certaintly the CB750's showed the rest what a hot bike should act like - by the way a local dealer has/had a pair of new 2002 cbr1100xx bikes one silver, one black (sale pending on it) - said they'd take around 8 - just not sure where I'd ride it - long way to the saltflats from here! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by bobo383 on 06/26/05 at 19:20:28 I ride whatever I can get my hands on. That goes for motorcycles, too. Here's my current naked sportbike, a '95 CB1000: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/bobo383/cb1000.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by DavidV on 06/26/05 at 21:41:37 Maybe an SV650, or the Honda Hornet 600 - I forget what they call it in the US. I like the sit-up-straight riding position. This size is plenty of power for me. I dig the look of a Ducatti Monster Dark. Not sure I can afford the maintenance, though. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 06/27/05 at 10:29:19 sluggo wrote:
My buddy haves a air compresser that is a VW motor running on three cylinders and the fourth is the compresser 8) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/27/05 at 10:48:42 Oklahoma_Mike wrote:
Now that's something different. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by bentwheel on 06/27/05 at 11:13:07 sluggo wrote:
In the 70's I had a Kawasaki triple that was really hard on plugs and fouled them all the time until it was broken in at about 1000 miles. I bet I rode that bike on 2 cylinders more than 3 for the first 1000 mi. In 1998 I ran in a Frugal 500 event and after the run one of my friends apologized for the too frequent gas stops on his 500 Kawi by saying he would have gotten better gas mileage if he wasn't running on two cylinders! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 06/27/05 at 11:18:01 dannimal wrote:
Same here V-Rod they are just BADAZZ looking 8) But like Bobo put it I would ride anything whatever it takes to get out there!!!! 8) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 06/27/05 at 12:06:25 Kaishaku wrote:
This post may pi$$ some people off if so sorry but then again I would let that stop my opinion!!!!!! I dislike chains they are for bicycles and tinker toys. In my opinion the belt is the best drive it gives when it needs to allowing smoother transition on and off power which matters most in corners. Chains are clumsy not as tranquil as the belt is. Shaft is not bad I like that drive as well just like belts better. I am also a fan of liquid cooling. I drive in town in traffic in Oklahoma where the asphalt is hot enough in summer that if you look at it wrong it will start to burn! So air-cooled is really tuff on the engine. As far as working on it to me there is no difference liquid cooled has a few more parts that is all! Take are of it and you will NOT have a problem!! If you can work on a savage but not a liquid cooled bike then I fell sorry for your Autos a car cooling system is far more complicated that a bike. If you can't work on the savage then I understand the concern. One thing I love about the savage is a single carb. That rocks, but EFI would be better if I could afford it. I got the Savage for one reason the price. At the time if I could have afforded a better I would have gotten better but then I would not have meet all of you and would have lost out on this experience. So despite the savages short comings I am very happy with me choice!!!! 8) One thing I'd love to have is hydraulically adjusted valves! God I wish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Adjusting the Valves Absolutely SUC&S!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) The opinions of this individual are of the individual and do not reflect the opinions of this forum Thank you, The Government ::) :-/ :-[ :-X This represents the four phases of government thinking! Ignore the problem, twiddle your thumbs Awhile, Make the wrong decision, then silence all involved!! 8) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 06/27/05 at 12:15:10 Savage_Rob wrote:
Yea I built it and sold it to him! Cheap he is a buddy after all 8) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by PerrydaSavage on 06/27/05 at 16:47:28 Oklahoma Mike ... here ya go! http://www.hyosungmotors.com.au/GV650_i.jpg V-Rod styling, 650cc liquid cooled V-twin (based on 'zuki SV650 mill), belt drive, dual front disc brakes & single rear disc, 450lbs dry. Hyosung GV650 Aquila (also available in 1000cc) ... made in South Korea and coming soon to North America. http://www.hyosungmotors.com.au/GV650_k.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by sluggo on 06/27/05 at 16:55:28 those would bobber out real nice... real nice... sluggo |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Paladin on 06/27/05 at 17:14:50 Oklahoma_Mike wrote:
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by sluggo on 06/27/05 at 17:20:39 Paladin wrote:
Everything Man makes breaks Everything God makes dies. Ya live, Ya Die everthing between is B.S. that pretty much sums up my "core" beliefs. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 06/27/05 at 17:57:29 Paladin wrote:
sooooo true sir that was my main point the taking care of it thing!!! However more robust and efficient systems work better and longer always have always will. This is why a The highest record mileage for an automobile with the original gasoline motor without an overhaul is 577,363 miles to 5 Jan 1993 by Don Champion's 1979 Cadillac Sedan de Ville and not a Volkswagen. 8) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 06/27/05 at 17:59:05 PerrydaSavage wrote:
That is freaking awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where do I sign!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o:o :o:o :o:o :o:o :o:o :o:o :o:o :o:o :o:o :o:o :o:o |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by sluggo on 06/27/05 at 18:05:50 Oklahoma_Mike wrote:
so, ya want to drive that home today? tax license insurance, just 199.99 a month, for the next 84 months. that's right ride it home today and save. just 199.99 till the company is bankupt, and your note is sold pennies on the dollar yet you still owe the full nut. and you having no factory support what so ever. ;D. but then again i would void the warranty anyway when i bobbed it. :o. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by bobo383 on 06/27/05 at 19:23:43 Oklahoma_Mike wrote:
In the early Model-T days, there was a conversion kit to make the T engine do the same thing. I got to see one several years ago -- pretty cool. My '70 Charger was on its way to a 7 to 1 version of the same thing, when I broke the #2 rod at about 60. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by GITARZAN on 06/27/05 at 20:46:03 PerrydaSavage wrote:
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/hyosung_gv_650_aquila_2005.php Actually I read somewhere that Suzuki was planning to sell a rebadged Korean VRod loke bike. And that looks a lot like it... From: http://www.forbes.com/columnists/columnists/2005/02/22/cz_jf_0222flint.html Quote:
Also Suzuki sells engines to Hyosung and may well follow a similar business plan with them. Scroll to bottom. http://www.motobykz.co.uk/Hyosung/hyosung.htm I can't find that link about Suzuki rebadging, but I'll keep looking. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by PerrydaSavage on 06/28/05 at 02:10:50 :oWow, didn't know that 'Zuki was planning to sell a re-badge of the Hyosung 650 "V-Rod" ... any more info would be appreciated. I know Suzuki has been sharing engine technology with Hyosung for awhile now ... with H's 650 & 1000cc bikes having powerplants based on the SV650 & 1000 motors... Hyosung have been manufacturing motorcycles & scooters since the early 70's and are a staple of the Asian transportation system ... so the models they are introducing to Canada and the U.S. later this year should be reliable ... if that V-Rod styled Cruiser proves to be so ... and competitively priced, it should sell well! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by savagethumper on 06/28/05 at 20:25:18 No "Savage", that's easy, I'd ride an Suzuki S40. There's a strange similarity between it and the "Savage". Hmmmmmmmm..... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by devilman on 06/29/05 at 08:15:14 hello all. new to the board but thought i would make this my first post since the question made me think. off the bat i would say the new Bonneville black. nimble agile and just fun to ride. might consider the vegas 8-ball purely based on the lines. out of production bikes, thats easy. Old pan/shovel. not cheap, not reliable but darn they are beautiful. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by klx650sm2002 on 06/29/05 at 10:58:38 Yep Could go for a Shovel too. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/29/05 at 11:11:01 Just have an oil pan to park it over. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by bobo383 on 06/29/05 at 15:43:46 Savage_Rob wrote:
My 98 Savage was not much better. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/29/05 at 16:41:53 Wow! Mine is a '98 and doesn't appear to leak at all since I replaced the head plug - and only minor seepage before that. And I'm using pure synthetic. If there's a place to leak, synthetic will find it. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by WD on 06/29/05 at 19:08:13 My 98 leaks out the head plug, the speedo cable (the whole thing, not just the base), somewhere under the starter... Oh, non-engine leaks: wheel bearings (both sets), swingarm, steering head base bearing, and the right fork seal (major league leak), brake caliper... My bike is convinced it is a 1964 Bonneville... -WD |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Savage_Rob on 06/30/05 at 05:27:40 Back to the thread's topic... there's always the Beamer thumper. http://bmw.hlabs.spb.ru/pics/moto/history/f650.jpg But I ran into one of these yesterday at the local Home Depot and, though I firmly believe 2000cc is too darn much bike for anyone not towing an Airstream behind it, this piece of muscle was simply beautiful. This one's the wrong color but it was definitely a Vulcan 2000. Instead picture this in a pale silver-blue (it was in nearly mint condition) with a short passenger backrest and custom leather saddlebags. http://www.kawasaki.com/kawasaki_main/images/products/motorcycle/1394_800.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by klx650sm2002 on 06/30/05 at 08:11:57 http://www.kawasaki.com/kawasaki_main/images/products/motorcycle/1394_800.jpg Edible. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Greg_650 on 06/30/05 at 08:19:55 If I had my option, and the money, it would be the Triumph Rocket III It's another "different" bike. I love the locomotive look of the engine, too. http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/ROCKETIII_black.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Dynobob on 06/30/05 at 21:29:00 If I had my choice of any other streetbike it would be this (crazy fast and vintage two strokes are cool 8) ): http://www.50cc.nl/images/kawamach3750.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by sluggo on 07/01/05 at 00:07:20 Dynobob wrote:
i rode the powder blue 73, crazy fast doesn't quite discribe it. :o that thing was crazy wicked fast, problem was it wouldn't turn worth a darn. :( |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by GITARZAN on 07/01/05 at 11:53:09 sluggo wrote:
That's why they called them, "Widow-Makers." Now, that's bike to ride if you want to find out what tank slap is... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Greg_650 on 07/02/05 at 07:13:52 GITARZAN wrote:
You just had to go there again, didn't you? I'm still wondering..... Is tank slap related to a rider's personal endowment? Maybe that's my problem :P |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by WD on 07/02/05 at 07:41:58 I updated the other thread for you Greg... You want to try a bike that will induce giggles follwed by crashing? Shop picked up a 1967 Yamaha L2-100 enduro, currently set up at Isle of Mann TT specs. For $100. Needs the carb cleaned and a new throttle cable. Toys I'd buy today if I had the cash...from work...CB550K, CB750F-SS, KZ1300, L2-100, KTM 250, GL500, XS650 Midnight Heritage Special, XS400 Special, GS550E, FXE Shovelhead, BMW R/?, or a stinky little CL100 (no, really, it stinks, gas leak). Not from work... 70ish T100R (500 Triumph), 62 Duo-glide with Shovel heads, or my aunt's late 60s Honda CB something or other (shipped with no badges, in primer) that wasn't supposed to leave the factory... -WD |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Greg_650 on 07/02/05 at 08:00:40 WD wrote:
Does your shop have any good deals on an old dual sport type? An old XL 350 or so? |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by WD on 07/02/05 at 08:03:07 Nope, just a couple XL250s. Run decently, look terrible. $895 and 995, cash talks. Or a CL100, the L2-100, a KX?, maybe a couple others. Oh, TC125, TS185, L?-360, SL125. The last 4 are heaps. -WD |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Greg_650 on 07/02/05 at 08:12:09 WD wrote:
Too much for those. I think my NEW XL350 was about the same (back in '76)....a 100 to 250 size in a once popular 4 stroke bike. Something to tinker with, restore, and maybe putt around the camp ground on....you know. If it is has problems but will start, that will be enough.... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Greg_650 on 07/02/05 at 08:14:16 Anyone ever seen this? http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/SavageAd.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Dynobob on 07/02/05 at 11:51:06 WD wrote:
Do you know what year the KTM is ? If you have the serial number I can tell from that. You have 666 posts :o ;D Bob |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by GITARZAN on 07/02/05 at 19:37:56 Dynobob wrote:
That must make him a YABB Beast. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by WD on 07/02/05 at 21:22:35 1996 KTM250, yellow frame, white and black plastics...pure dirt. I can't start it. My kick stick died about 3.5 years ago. :'( I'm so beat up, I can't even kick start a Trail 90 anymore... -WD |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Dynobob on 07/02/05 at 22:07:14 WD wrote:
Thanks WD. A little too new for my taste. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by klx650sm2002 on 07/03/05 at 07:51:58 http://www.xrv.org.uk/getimage.php?id=224 This 750 V-twin would make a good SuperMoto for faster roads, 17" wheels etc. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by lancer on 07/03/05 at 08:28:38 klx650sm2002 wrote:
I usually don't care too much for the fairing'd bikes but for some reason this one has some appeal to me. What exactly is this one? |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by lancer on 07/03/05 at 08:38:41 Greg_650 wrote:
WOW! You can plainly see just how much R&D money Suzuki has put into the Savage in the past "20 YEARS". It is just amazing to me that they keep the bike in production for 20 freaking years and the only iimprovement that is made is the switch from 4 to 5 speed...and that is only a PR thing, the Savage does not need the extra gear. Other than the 5th gear the changes are paint color, seat design, turn signals and bar. WHAT A FREAKING WASTE!!! If I were stupid enough to do it I would bang my head against the wall. I need to go for a ride and return to my normal calm center. By the way, Greg, thank you for sharing this with the rest of us. I vaguely remember seeing this years ago and it is nice to have it again. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by klx650sm2002 on 07/03/05 at 11:07:11 The big trail bike with the fairing is, http://www.xrv.org.uk/getimage.php?id=224 a honda XRV 750 Africa Twin,V-twin with offset crankpins. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Thumpertoo on 04/20/10 at 20:34:29 1957 G80CS Matchless 500cc single push rod ohv ? XL500 Honda 500cc single ohc 1948 KSS Velocette 350cc single ohc ? CX650 Honda 650cc transverse v-twin short push rod shaft drive liquid cooled 1957 R60 BMW 600cc boxer twin shaft drive I have owned all the above and put 20k miles on each. I have ridden more than 60 years including 1/2 mile flat track, Calif Hare & Hounds, English observed trials, and moto cross. Am looking to buy an s40. I am on ss so I am short on bucks and credit. Former US Marine E-5. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Serowbot on 04/20/10 at 22:29:09 Wow!... that's diggin' deep!... 2005!.... 2005,... I'd never heard of a Savage... :-?... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by BurnPgh on 04/20/10 at 22:53:21 Honda VLX Suzuki Intruder 800/s50 Yamaha Virago 250 or 535 Royal Enfield Bullet SR500 if parts were more readily available in the US Honda Rebel 450 if parts werent running out Ironhead Sportster Latest model Ural solo BMW R35 |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by mpescatori on 04/21/10 at 02:05:28 So... what would I ride if I hadn't come across the Savage, or if she didn't exist ? I once had a pretty tiny Guzzi V50, 500cc air cooled V-twin, but they're close to collectors' items these days (especially my 48hp cafe` racer version) http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20%20A/MOTO%20GUZZI%20V50%20Monza%20%201.jpg exactly in these colors! :) I also had a BMW R65 Mk I, the one with single stainless steel disc brake and drum rear... I would certainly prefer the 3-disced version that came last. http://www.motousate.it/annunci/photos/135862.jpg Aprilia make the 600/650 Pegaso wich also doubled as the BMW GS 650 MkI... http://digilander.libero.it/pegasomania/img/Pegaso%20600%201990.jpghttp://www.motorbox.com/Upload/b/bmwf650S-f.jpg But my Icon would be going back to the Ducati 450 Scrambler, http://www.manualesdemotos.net/catalog/images/SCRA.jpg which,selling for Cadillac money, would see me opt for "second choice", the Aprilia Moto` 650, on show at the Metropolitan Museum of Modern Art 8-) http://www.cmmilanese.it/it/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/68-aprilia-moto-65.jpg 8-) 8-) 8-) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by 12Bravo on 04/21/10 at 06:17:48 I currently own a Suzuki Burgman along with my S40. I know, its a scooter but man is it fun to ride. It out performs the S40 and I can go grocery shopping with it. I sometimes miss the 83 Yamaha XJ750 Maxim. Only thing I didn't care for about the Maxim was the seat height, made it hard to get on with bad knees/hips. IF the S40 wasn't available, I would look at the S50 for a new purchase. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by babyhog on 04/21/10 at 07:41:24 Suzuki M50 or Triumph America |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Ebikerman on 04/21/10 at 10:31:17 Let's don't forget the Yamaha Virago 250cc V-Twin. Fun little bike. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by PipJones on 04/21/10 at 13:28:48 No savage???..... Yamaha raider/warrior/victory vegas 8-ball. (if i had the money) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by cornfuzed on 04/21/10 at 14:04:02 call me wierd but.. http://cdn-3.psndealer.com/e2/dealersite/images/highadventureps/RTS%20Blk_Pro%20w_trailer-1580.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by RidgeRunner13 on 04/21/10 at 15:21:34 After owning three Savages going back to 1988, I made the choice back last Nov. to move up to a bigger bike so the wife & I could travel more comfortably. I chose a Yamaha V-Star 950T because just like my Savages, I will do all service myself. No radiator/cooling system to service, no shaft drive to service & no spoke wheels to clean & adjust. I just went over 3800 miles today & would make the same choice again. I've loved my Savages, but this bike is Sooooo SSSwwweeeeeeettt. This picture was taken at the Texas Mile. We put over 200 miles riding 2-up that day and were ready for more. 8-) http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n94/Pappygt13/PamsGoiad029-1.jpg All it needs now is a trailer hitch that I'm in the process of fabricating. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by james may on 04/21/10 at 18:10:58 I'd get a 2010 honda fury. Honda made chopper very nice looking decent power. only 13k brand new compaired to most choppers that don't have major factory support and are usually at least 20k. http://www.motorlogy.com/wp-content/uploads/honda-2010-fury.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by gerald.hughes on 04/21/10 at 18:47:45 I am assuming that this is about a new bike, and not any bike that was ever produced. There are lots of bikes that I have owned in the past that I would like to have back, but if I had to replace the Savage today, then I think that the only bike available that shares most of the features that I love in the Savage is the Royal Enfield. Of course, now that Royal Enfield has gone to injection, the Savage is the only air cooled, carbureted, big single road bike sold in the U.S. If it didn't exist, I guess that I would just have to turn to classic bikes. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by LANCER on 04/21/10 at 23:11:00 Yamaha SR500 I had a 78 model for several years and liked it a lot, it was a good dependable bike Next would be a new Triumpb Bonne' |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by dasch on 04/23/10 at 11:01:13 Ducati Monster 600 or HD Sportster 883 |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by bill67 on 04/23/10 at 15:15:45 Moto Guzzi 750,2010 Honda Shadow RS $7799 Or Suzuki DR200 |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Rocco on 04/23/10 at 20:26:44 i really like the old kz1000 or a bonnie....not a fan of huge bikes with too much crap on em! i love the 4 into one header on the kz....pretty sure u gotta take the one from a 900 and put it on the 1000...but it would look awesome in header wrap! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Trippah on 04/23/10 at 21:12:42 Moto Guzzi has the new V75 Classic in several variations..the bike i'd own if I had any money. ;) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by TheCaliKid on 04/23/10 at 21:46:46 New Triumph Bonneville, Made in England Twin 790cc |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by jsarsfield on 04/23/10 at 21:57:33 I'd say this bike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrp_bxL8ABk It sounds ALIVE !! I've watched the video so many times its like ear porn for bikers. It sounds like a super bong. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by cornfuzed on 04/23/10 at 23:04:25 I guess if we are gonna look at stuff like west coast choppers... For my money No one did customs better than Milwaukee Iron - Southern Steel.. Its a shame that genius behind their bikes passed on :'( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1_uAe9VG-4&feature=related On a brighter note. Looks like harley is starting to actually do it right now! Liken the looks of their latest in the sportsters linup... http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/2010_Motorcycles/2010_motorcycles.html?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US#/model/xl1200x ... now where did i put that 10grand ?? :P |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by RTC on 04/24/10 at 23:19:18 why are there only like two riders on here who have voted for a sportster?? is there something wrong with HD that i and the rest of america are just not understanding? what is the deal?? i would definent,y go for sportster next and I WILL. why does everyone seems tio think that japanese bikes are better?? dont get me wrong, i love the way this bike is put together(almost). but really there is so much more aftermarket and mainline support for the sprtster. the guts i know who have 883's have had no problems for several thousand miles. SO WHAT IS THE IS PROBLEM!!?? (besides ego) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by verslagen1 on 04/24/10 at 23:40:46 6471697C7F62100 wrote:
I've got to say the problem is your's, 'I'm gonna get a HD and why aren't you?' There are a lot of riders here with long histories of many bikes from all over the world. Are we wrong for wanting something different... naw. Are you wrong for wanting the 'American' m/c... naw. But quit trying to prove your decision is the right one to me. Hey you got 2 wheels, me too, great, good looking ride, yada, yada, yada... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by RTC on 04/24/10 at 23:56:18 23302726393432303B64550 wrote:
I've got to say the problem is your's, 'I'm gonna get a HD and why aren't you?' There are a lot of riders here with long histories of many bikes from all over the world. Are we wrong for wanting something different... naw. Are you wrong for wanting the 'American' m/c... naw. But quit trying to prove your decision is the right one to me. Hey you got 2 wheels, me too, great, good looking ride, yada, yada, yada...[/quote] i have a savage and i love it!! if i had to upgrade being that my bike bit the dust and i had the cash(not credit) on hand to purchase one...i would buy a sportster. it seems that the reas you give for not getting a harely is to be different. honestly besides the savage, all the other metric cruisers seem almost like imitations. why not have the real thing? i dont own a HD and dont forsee that happening in the next several years but WHY discount the machine? as a novice rider i am curious. for now i ride a savage, and i am very happy with it!! this is a "if,then" thread so i REALLY want to know!!!! besides the " i am better than than a harley" what is the problem? |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Boule’tard on 04/25/10 at 20:26:21 IMO the Savage is almost as good as a sportster for a lot less money.. a way better deal. As for the thread topic - now that I am down to a sane(r) 3 bikes, all the bases I care about are covered: dirt - Honda CRF230 adventure touring - DR650 hooligan antics and brapping past old ladies - Husky sm610 :D |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Rocco on 04/25/10 at 21:34:53 alot of people i know call the fury the honda "furby" lol!! it's mostly plastic....i mean fenders isn't it? yeah man, i'm all about the simplicity right now, my friend has 4 carbs, don't know which one is clogged...with the savage i know exactly which carb is clogged HAHAHHAHAA!!! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by RidgeRunner13 on 04/25/10 at 22:25:18 4578747478170 wrote:
8-)Amaze your friend by finding which cylinder is missing with a squirt gun! Just squirt the exhaust pipes near the head & the one that doesn't sizzle is missing. Pull that plug wire & check for spark, if it sparks all that's left is fuel or compression. Bad compression on one cylinder will usually cause a multi-cylinder engine to have a 'skip' sound when cranking. Just a quick & dirty trick to help you survive in the world. ::) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by imnot12 on 04/26/10 at 06:52:25 More like which bike ARE you riding. My wife replaced the Savage with a Kawi ER-6n. Actually pretty fun little bike. It's bad when you make excuses to ride your wife's bike! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Demin on 04/26/10 at 06:56:35 ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!It's about bein' in da wind! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Oldbiker73 on 04/26/10 at 16:39:34 414F4A4D48495E2C0 wrote:
Sadly, only the first few production runs of the new Bonnie were made in England. Since somewhere around '06 or '07 Bonnie production was shifted to Triumph's factory in Thailand. I believe the Thruxton and Scrambler are Thai-built as well. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Oldbiker73 on 04/26/10 at 16:45:15 33263E2B2835470 wrote:
I've got to say the problem is your's, 'I'm gonna get a HD and why aren't you?' There are a lot of riders here with long histories of many bikes from all over the world. Are we wrong for wanting something different... naw. Are you wrong for wanting the 'American' m/c... naw. But quit trying to prove your decision is the right one to me. Hey you got 2 wheels, me too, great, good looking ride, yada, yada, yada...[/quote] i have a savage and i love it!! if i had to upgrade being that my bike bit the dust and i had the cash(not credit) on hand to purchase one...i would buy a sportster. it seems that the reas you give for not getting a harely is to be different. honestly besides the savage, all the other metric cruisers seem almost like imitations. why not have the real thing? i dont own a HD and dont forsee that happening in the next several years but WHY discount the machine? as a novice rider i am curious. for now i ride a savage, and i am very happy with it!! this is a "if,then" thread so i REALLY want to know!!!! besides the " i am better than than a harley" what is the problem?[/quote] Just my two cents, I bought a new 883 Sportster sometime back around '91, IIRC it was the last model with chain drive. The bike looked ok, the build quality was average, everything worked. But I sold it back to the dealer after three years. Remembering it now, the only word to describe it that pops into my head was.... boring. It honestly wasn't that much fun. I would not buy another. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Serowbot on 04/26/10 at 17:01:33 I guess if I couldn't ride a Savage,... I'd have to settle for an S40 Boulevard... :-?... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by bill67 on 04/26/10 at 17:07:33 You would be getting a faster bike. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by einheit13 on 04/26/10 at 18:09:41 4C6F67616A6866713430030 wrote:
Sadly, only the first few production runs of the new Bonnie were made in England. Since somewhere around '06 or '07 Bonnie production was shifted to Triumph's factory in Thailand. I believe the Thruxton and Scrambler are Thai-built as well. [/quote] Triumph has four factories in all, two in Leicestershire and two in Thailand. As the brand grows on the world stage complete machines for the Pacific rim countries are being assembled in Thailand, although it is interesting to note that the engines for these machines are manufactured in Leicestershire and shipped to Thailand. All UK/US spec machines are manufactured in England. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Serowbot on 04/26/10 at 18:41:41 Quote:
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I guess it's the aerodynamic tank lettering... :-?... Swoosh!.... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Oldbiker73 on 04/26/10 at 19:19:07 7C7077717C706D282A190 wrote:
Sadly, only the first few production runs of the new Bonnie were made in England. Since somewhere around '06 or '07 Bonnie production was shifted to Triumph's factory in Thailand. I believe the Thruxton and Scrambler are Thai-built as well. [/quote] Triumph has four factories in all, two in Leicestershire and two in Thailand. As the brand grows on the world stage complete machines for the Pacific rim countries are being assembled in Thailand, although it is interesting to note that the engines for these machines are manufactured in Leicestershire and shipped to Thailand. All UK/US spec machines are manufactured in England. [/quote] At least some, maybe many Canadian and US Bonnies were produced in Thailand. Easy to check, the 11th character in the bikes' serial number tells the tale. For the frames of US machines (and Canadian too from what I've seen at the local dealer), the character will be either "J" for Jacknell Road in Hinckley UK, or "T" for the factory at the Amata Nakorn Estate in Chonburi, Thailand. The machines in the showroom here are all stamped T, as was an up-for-sale US spec machine I looked at last year. Triumph has increased overseas capacity and transferred much more production work in the last couple of years to cut costs. Triumph currently has three factories operating in Thailand at the moment. The third factory opened in 2007 and handles diecasting and general machining. The original Thai shop (2002) did components such as frames, fuel tanks, etc. The second plant opened four years later and houses the assembly line and paint shop. I know, this is drifting a bit off-topic. :) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by einheit13 on 04/26/10 at 19:20:48 XJ 650......road warrior project... http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j45/17932486/XJright.jpg http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j45/17932486/xjrear.jpg XLCH http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j45/17932486/MyBike-1-1.jpg http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j45/17932486/MyBike-3.jpg Bonnie http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j45/17932486/eli.jpg http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j45/17932486/eli4.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by thumperclone on 04/26/10 at 19:21:43 thumperclone!!! cause i own er... if elm seeds were dollars the triumph T BIRD....1700 tour set up w/ long non epa pipes!!! gimme gimmme!! AND as a toy bike the 5150 roller frame with my own horz thumper build...just for round town and parades... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by PerrydaSavage on 04/27/10 at 03:20:26 I think I may have posted on this Topic waaaaaaay back in it's beginnings a few years ago ... but will do so again now 'cause I've changed my mind a bit ... may have posted up an XL883L as a "Savage Alternative" before, but since, my bad back has gotten worse and I've also had the opportunity to spend some time with a couple of smaller displacement "standard" set-up Bikes (a Brazilian spec Honda Titan 150 and a Canadian spec Honda CBR125R) and right now my choice would likely be a pre-2008 Kawi EX250 Ninja http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2001models/2001-Kawasaki-250Ra.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Starlifter on 04/27/10 at 15:06:05 I would ride a perfectly restored Honda 305 Dream. :D |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Yonuh Adisi on 04/27/10 at 15:21:10 Anything except a Harley or a crotch rocket or one of those Chinese bikes. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Stimpy on 04/28/10 at 06:09:58 ...probably a Vulcan 500cc with the ninja 6-speed engine or a bmw 650f GS. Owned quite a few bikes, all different kinds, all japanese, can't complain about any of them; had a friends' Cagiva 125cc raptor for one whole summer, that thing was THE SH*T! amazing amazing bike!!! http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200612/2007-kawasaki-vulcan-500--4_460x0w.jpg Vulcan 500 LTD http://www.125er-info.de/bilder/Cagiva_Raptor_125.jpg Caviga Raptor 125 |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by John_D FSO on 04/28/10 at 06:27:22 Wait, the Vulcan 500 has a Ninja 6-speed engine? Or you'd swap one in? If so, is it a chore? I'm intrigued; that'd make quite a little hot rod. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Demin on 04/28/10 at 07:20:45 Actually here IS my next ride. http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2009/09/18/bikepics-1783291-800.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Stimpy on 04/28/10 at 07:35:54 Wait, the Vulcan 500 has a Ninja 6-speed engine? Or you'd swap one in? yup! ;) comes like that outta the box, the CDI (rev limiter) and carbs might be a little different, not sure, but it's the same basic "ninja" engine; many highway police agencies around the world use them cause they're pretty fast and that watercooled engine is simply bullet proof. There are 2 models: EN500 & 500 LTD w/only minor styling changes between them. Well tuned will do 100+mph. "vulcan 500" craigslist vancouver, BC: http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/search/bik?query=vulcan+500&catAbb=mcy "vulcan 500" craigslist seattle, WA: http://seattle.craigslist.org/search/mcy?query=vulcan+500 |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by prsavage on 04/28/10 at 14:59:42 It would likely be a Yamaha xs650 (as a project bike, cuz that is what my Savage is) My current daily rider is a 1997 Intruder |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Bubble Boy on 04/28/10 at 19:43:29 Since I laid eyes on the 2010 Honda Shadow Phantom;that will most definitly be my next ride.I love the allblack bobber look. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by BurnPgh on 04/28/10 at 22:53:56 Actually, Ural has the solo coming to NA, so Im going to go with that. That or the Royal Enfield. Or both. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by John_D FSO on 04/29/10 at 01:29:33 6344595D4049300 wrote:
Sweet! Might have to give one a try someday. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Southpaw on 04/29/10 at 10:05:25 I love my Savage, but if I had to chose again I'd pick a little longer frame to stretch my legs out. V-Star 1100, HD Sportster 1200 with the forward controls. Then I'd look for a used single for around town. Maybe the old Vulcan 500? Had an old 68 Honda 450 that came over on the Mayflower until 1988 - just got tired of not finding parts for it! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by BurnPgh on 04/29/10 at 10:28:53 I think the old vulcan 500s are twin cylinders. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by bill67 on 04/29/10 at 10:30:59 Suzuki had a 400 single I don't think any Jap company make even a 400 single beside Suzuki. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Southpaw on 04/29/10 at 10:38:54 It's been awhile, but I thought the neighbor's only had one. Just looked it up and you are correct. Still a nice little commuter though even if t has one too many cylinders... |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by BurnPgh on 04/29/10 at 11:20:54 676C69693332050 wrote:
Not on street bikes. street/trail and offroad theres a bunch of singles. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by JohnBoy on 05/01/10 at 15:27:23 072D253F242D27394C0 wrote:
AJS model 18S 1952 http://classic-motorbikes.net/images/gallery/9180.jpg My dad screwed a deal his brother was making to sell me a blue one in 1969 for 500.00. Dad lived long enough to see one sold at auction for 46,000.00. Oh, and Mick, The one I missed looked show room fresh! and had low miles. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by miker on 05/01/10 at 16:33:49 [/quote] AJS model 18S 1952 http://classic-motorbikes.net/images/gallery/9180.jpg My dad screwed a deal his brother was making to sell me a blue one in 1969 for 500.00. Dad lived long enough to see one sold at auction for 46,000.00. Oh, and Mick, The one I missed looked show room fresh! and had low miles.[/quote] That is a fine machine!! |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by miker on 05/01/10 at 16:36:08 37363E3A3D530 wrote:
I love the 4speed shovels. How about that Riviera in the background?? Do you need someone to get it out of your shop?? |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Demin on 05/03/10 at 12:31:34 No,the owner already has it back.Lol. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by John_D FSO on 05/04/10 at 06:03:31 182F28340A3D325A0 wrote:
Just took a look at the Urals, nice looking bike. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by buttgoat1 on 05/04/10 at 16:35:00 7E45484B497E594242495E1D1F2C0 wrote:
I have to admit I am interested in this one. What is the long term reliability of this? |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Trippah on 05/04/10 at 16:53:10 What memories, when stationed at Ft. Holabird (Md..now gone), I rode down from Boston on my 305 Honda supehawk. It was Feb, snow on the ground but roads clear...Somewhere around 12 hours in the saddle but she. in Feb after being put in my parent's basement in Sept) started up with one hit of the button and never skipped a beat. The dream's valenced fenders are/were too olde school for my tastes. :o |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by suzi-q on 05/05/10 at 14:41:49 always loved that bsa 441 victor |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by jef.savage on 05/05/10 at 14:47:18 If I had 8k to buy a bike tomorrow it'd be a Triumph Street Triple. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by tcreeley on 05/05/10 at 17:31:03 Suzuki Intrepid- guy I got my '87 savage from had one- '91 - more money so I didn't. Sweet looking bike. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by wingsout on 05/08/10 at 09:00:12 Kawasaki Versys. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by mick on 05/08/10 at 09:40:26 If I could ever ride again, it would be one of the bikes below,and my beloved ninja. http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr311/mickrowe37/1069_0_2_3_tu2025020xv_Submitted20b.jpg http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr311/mickrowe37/BqQk4gmkKGrHqMOKjEEuemTpdBLu91tJBg_.jpg http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr311/mickrowe37/001-Copy.jpg |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by gerald.hughes on 05/11/10 at 22:53:02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuIJRsAuCHQ |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Digger on 06/13/10 at 21:57:32 Hmmmm..... Well, I use my Savage (see my signature) as a "daily rider" - almost exclusively for urban work. I want an air-cooled single with a fairly conventional layout. Looking around out there, I guess I would opt for the Suzuki TU250. I'd have to put up with a danged chain, though (I love the almost no-maintenance belt on my Savage). |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Edgar on 06/13/10 at 22:42:13 2010 sportster 48 8-) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Duane on 06/14/10 at 01:48:10 bikes I had: 2003 LS650 1974 CB550F 1999 250 Katana would have if not the Savage: I find a Buel Blast even though they stopped making them. I like the thumper singles I guess. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Mr_You on 06/29/10 at 23:39:38 My first and current street bike is an 04 Yamaha FZ6 that I bought new and have clocked up over 11k fun filled miles. But I desire something a bit more sporty. So I've gone back and forth between a new Triumph Street Triple R or new Triumph Daytona 675. I've decided to go for the Daytona. But recently I discovered the Savage/S40 and see it as an economical mod friendly platform that could satisfy my desire to build a very light weight urban bike with cafe racer styling, experiment with mods, or any custom look I might want in the future. :) |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by JohnBoy on 07/01/10 at 11:39:55 6349415B4049435D280 wrote:
If you want low maintenance go air cooled (no water pump or plumbing) If you want durability go water cooled and shaft drive. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by BurnPgh on 07/01/10 at 12:12:13 426760664A6771080 wrote:
If you want low maintenance go air cooled (no water pump or plumbing) If you want durability go water cooled and shaft drive.[/quote] Keep in mind though, that everything breaks. Its my opinion you'll put just as much work in to fixing whatever, easy maint. just means you'll do it more often and more quickly. |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by wingsout on 07/01/10 at 16:40:56 Triumph Bonneville |
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Title: Re: What would you ride if the Savage650 didn't ex Post by Routy on 07/03/10 at 15:54:57 Seriously ?? I mite not be riding anything,....because I had about given up on finding the right lighter weight motorcycle, when my long distance brother sent me a link to the s-40. But, I mite have settled for a 250, Suzi or Yammie before I gave it up completely. |
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