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Title: "Fake" Colors?? Post by PerrydaSavage on 05/10/05 at 15:25:30 8)Hi everyone! Got a peculiar question and I'd like the opinion of some of my American friends here at suzukisavage.com on the subject ... Concerns "colors" of the type that 1% m/c Clubs wear on their jackets or cut-offs. First off, let me say that here in Newfoundland there are no 1% Clubs ... a few Riding Clubs, but no "outlaw" motorcycle gangs (nearest H.A. chapter is in Halifax, Nova Scotia). Anyhoo, a few years ago, for a bit of fun, I cut the sleeves off of an old Levis jean jacket and painted some fake "colors" on the back in honor of the bunch from my neighbourhood who sometime Ride together ... looks similar to a typical 3-piece patch ... top "scroll" rocker; white with red letters spelling the name of my street, bottom rocker white/red with name of our town and a center "shield"; white with red outline and drawing of motorcycle topped with CCRA (initials of our street Riding Association) in big black letters in the middle. This is just for fun, and I've worn it only a couple of times on Toys for Tots runs and the like. It looks pretty good if I do say so myself! Most who see it get a laugh out of it, although a "stereotypical" Harley rider once got kinda snotty with me when he saw it ... though he was 3 times my puny size, I told him to grow up and not take things so serious and that the "patch" was just for a bit of fun (isn't that what m/c Riding is supposed to be about?). Would such a fake painted on patch find me trouble in the States or Provinces with actual 1% Clubs? What are you all opinions on this? |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Paladin on 05/10/05 at 20:24:03 I think the 1%'ers are closer to 0.01% of all bikers. I've picked up the paint, I still working on the design. (http://savage.andruschak.net/Paladin/ProposedJacket.jpg) |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by WD on 05/10/05 at 23:07:28 If you go red letters on white rockers, red letters on yellow rockers, or black letters on white rockers...be ready for a butt kicking. Those are reserved schemes, in order: Hell's Angels, Banditos, Outlaws. And their approved subservient/affiliated clubs. Support your local Big Red One. ;) -WD For those who don't "get" Big Red One, or the number 81 on a street bike, they are Angels symbols. Be careful. Most are the best true bikers you could ever meet, but, some make Charles Manson look like a neophyte Cub Scout. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Red_Wine on 05/11/05 at 07:01:37 Sorry for my ignorance, pals, but does WD refer to "rockers" as in "valve rockers" or something like that? I just cann't get the picture, sorry. RW |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Paladin on 05/11/05 at 08:13:16 http://www.hamcrnv.org/HAmainlogo.jpg Red letters on white rockers -- the rockers are the curved white areas that the red letters are on. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by sunny on 05/11/05 at 13:32:14 i belong to a social riding club. all we do is ride to places and eat. (i'm actually thinking of exiting cuz i just don't have time to socialize AND ride my bike.) but for the safety of the many lone women riders in this riding club, the leader of the local chapter felt compelled to join a bandido sponsored "organization" known as the COC. confederation of clubs. you have to be very careful what you wear, and where you wear it. learn the rules and stay safe. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by gitarzan on 05/11/05 at 13:34:51 There is actually meaning to one, two or three piece patches. http://home.earthlink.net/~rcvsmc-edu/id26.html |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by PerrydaSavage on 05/11/05 at 16:25:32 Thanks for the insight folks ... as stated my painted "patch" is totally fake, only vaguely resembles the H.A. 3-piece that Paladin posted above and doesn't carry the "MC" tag at all ... Doubt if there's much to worry about around here, as I've said, there are no outlaw clubs in Nfld. Being a northeast "Bayman" (same as "Hick"), I find it very curious that in the States and parts of mainland Canada, motorcycle clubs make such a fuss over pieces of coloured cloth sewn onto a beat-up old denim vest ... maybe I'm just naive ... |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Frost on 05/11/05 at 17:56:51 I know Disciples, Angels, Red Emeralds even Hampsters and one thing I would suggest is to not make fun of anyone's colors by wearing any kind of fake colors. People around here (Massachusetts) take that kinda stuff real serious and even if you're joking, try explaining that to a bunch of drunk bikers in a bar. Just my insite on the whole thing ;) |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by WD on 05/11/05 at 21:42:16 Perry, the fuss is because of how the patch is earned. Membership isn't given away, by any means. The process can take several years for clubs like the Hamsters, which has membership exclusively for those in the high money end of the custom HD business. Think Arlen Ness or Dave Perewitz caliber customizers. The "outlaw" clubs are even tougher to "probate" into. Disrespecting a patch-holder's colors is a capitol offense. Wearing the "wrong" patch in the "wrong" territory is also a capitol offense. And it usually ends up meaning beat to death at a "stomping party", where you are worked over with steel toed logging boots and HD primary chains. If you want to ride stateside, leave the "colors" in the closet where they belong. Some COUNTIES are multi-club, and there are no "Now entering thus and such territory" signs. -WD |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by PerrydaSavage on 05/12/05 at 00:47:33 8)Points taken Frost & WD ... wouldn't be caught dead Ridin' with my fake cut-off in the States or in mainland Canada for that matter ... in fact, I don't make a habit of Ridin' with it generally, as I'm not the type who likes to draw attention ... I prefer to observe from the sidelines! Have only worn it Riding twice ... once at a local Toy Run, and one other time when I got the afore-mentioned snotty remark from the Hawg Guy ... the cut-off is mainly decoration hangin' in my shed ... |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Mr 650 on 05/12/05 at 01:21:47 I don't understand the problem, like you said Halifax is a days ride away, like in another time zone right and the U.S. is like another days ride and time zone to the Maine border from Halifax? Besides you can start your own local club and have your own colors. It is not like you copied/counterfeited some other clubs colors, but they are original right? (problem lies in your term "fake") If you have a local club and ride together, wear your colors. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by PerrydaSavage on 05/12/05 at 01:59:05 Hi 650 ... yeah, both Halifax and Maine are 2-3 saddle-days from here (St. John's) with a connecting ferry to Nova Scotia from either Port Aux Basques, or Argentia during Summer ... There are several Riding Clubs in Nfld., all with their own single-piece patch ... Newfound Riders are one that I know of and Northern Stars is another ... I'm not a member of any Riding Club ... not much of a "joiner" really ... My original questions re; the fake "patch" I have is based on a pals comment, when he saw it hangin' in my shed, "You'd get a beating if you wore that Ridin' in an area that had real motorcycle gangs." My reply to him was, "You can't be serious?" ... just curious is all ... |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Red_Wine on 05/12/05 at 08:24:41 Paladin wrote:
thanks Paladin, I got the picture now... I'd better keep my own riding colors.... full black.... RW |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Mr 650 on 05/13/05 at 02:58:15 PdS, I never rode very far east out of New Glasgow, I figured the ferry ran all year since it was Hwy 1. I checked the Hells Angels charter list and no hits for "Halifax", "Nova Scotia" , "Newfoundland", or "Labrador". http://www.hells-angels.com/charters.htm and check the, the Hells Angels FAQ: http://www.hells-angels.com/faq.htm I have not seen your design. They don't seem to have a problem just be sure, it's original. "HELLS ANGELS and the Death head logo are trademarks owned by the Hells Angels Motorcycle Corporation. Reprint or other use is prohibited", don't infringe on their "logo", man. 8) PerrydaSavage wrote:
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by PerrydaSavage on 05/13/05 at 08:17:05 Hey 650 ... the ferry connection between Port Aux Basques, Nfld. (10-12 hr. drive to St. John's) & North Sydney, NS runs 12 months/year. Ferry between Argentia, Nfld. (1 hr drive to St. John's) & North Sydney, NS runs during the Summer months. As far as the H.A. go, Ive read that there is a Chapter in Halifax ... or at least there was?? The resemblence of my fake "patch" to the one pic'd above is supeficial at best ... no death's heads, skulls or MC at all ... just top & bottom "rockers" and a centre shield ... |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by gazab44 on 05/13/05 at 09:05:38 what about Frosts aviator as colours for ss.com 8) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/craigslist781/savtshirt2.gif |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Greg_650 on 05/13/05 at 10:59:21 This topic is interesting. Some of this is news to me too. Guess that I've just never given those types of bike clubs very much thought. My leather vest is covered in patches of different types of stuff, but no "colors" by definition. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by sunny on 05/13/05 at 11:19:33 PerrydaSavage wrote:
you'd be in trouble here. the rockers are the problem. you have to have permission of the dominant club in the area to use them or there WILL be trouble. doesn't matter if they're fake. it makes it look like you have started a territorial club in THEIR territory. here it's the banditos. so the riding clubs patches that do not want to pay dues to a 1% club do NOT have rockers, either top or bottom. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by savagethumper on 05/16/05 at 17:53:42 I wear a badge now, so screw them if they can't take a joke. I mainly ride back and forth to work, so I'm in uniform. If I wear a jacket with rockers, that say for example, "Suzuki Savage" riders, or something of the like, screw them if they don't like it. They don't pay my bills, or right the laws for bikers. It sounds like a "biker mafia". "OOHhhhhh! Someone's wearing colors in our neighborhood, let's kick his butt." I'll guess I'll be sleeping with the fishes if they take it too seriously. I put up with "real" gang members everyday (Bloods, Crips, Mexican Mafia, Arian Brotherhood...) and you know, these little biker punks can't hold a candle to the murderers and child molesters behind bars where I work. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Frost on 05/16/05 at 18:52:53 "I wear a badge now, so screw them if they can't take a joke" - c.o. or not you'll walk kinda funny with that badge up you arse if you mess with real bikers. They won't be BEHIND bars..LOL p.s. Thanks Gazab44 for you input on my aviatar ;D |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by mrbusdriver on 05/16/05 at 20:21:45 "real bikers"....?? Gangsters...same thread as bloods and crips...nothing "real" about them except a criminal bondage amongst them. I went to an autopsy of one of them, they die like anyone else...cowards when alone amongst many enemys, just like so many others, but brave when it's many vs. one or an innocent. I have no idea why anyone would want to "look" like them...hardly worth emulating or satirizing (they're insecure I guess, can't take a joke). My feeling is that the 1%ers need a life beyond alcohol, drug dealing, and general meyhem when the need arises. BTW, might want to look into the various "rites of passage" it takes to join and advance in such "real" bike gangs...and lock your daughters (and sons) away shortly thereafter...they're scum of the earth. Outlaws...yes. Me, I can't afford to fly, so biking gives me that small feeling of free flight on the ground. Without the need to get nasty or make a wierd statement. Plus, I'm saving a ton on the gas card. Just my two cents Dave, 03 Savage, just riding... |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 05/16/05 at 20:43:31 savagethumper wrote:
I have to somewhat agree with you. I live in America and refuse to believe that I fought for a country made up of people that would beat someone for the cloths that they wear. If that is all that matters to someone then I really pity them they are ignorant and if they want to fight then let them fight in Iraq you will forget all about what colors and patches I am wearing when I sweep in and save you a@@! 8) |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by gazab44 on 05/17/05 at 02:05:09 Paladin wrote:
Here's one for paladin.........check well before you design your own patches http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.brooks2/p_1.3.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.brooks2/t_4.jpg |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by gazab44 on 05/17/05 at 02:11:33 and surely nobody could take offence at these :) http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.brooks2/THUMPERPATCH4.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.brooks2/THUMPERPATCH5.jpg |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by sunny on 05/17/05 at 11:34:07 famous last words... |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Mr 650 on 05/17/05 at 16:39:18 Gaz, The the 2nd one is not bad, perhaps a larger font. :) of course instead of "England", I need one that says "10-O-C". ;D |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Ed_L. on 05/17/05 at 17:00:55 Reading this thread about club colors a couple questions about what is acceptable on your leather popped into my head. If you put a patch on your leather does it need to be motorcycle related, I don't mean a Disney World patch but something different. Another thought is where should it go, right sleeve, left sleeve, seat of pants or just say f-k it and put it anywhere that it fits. Maybe a Harley patch would look good on the seat of my pants. Ride Safe, Ed L. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by rkutzner on 05/17/05 at 17:32:00 It's America, wear what you want. If they beat up this ol' Jarhead, they better kill him... ;) |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Ed_L. on 05/17/05 at 18:25:09 Yeah, nothing I've done has killed me yet, got the scars to prove it. seems most of the biker clubs just want respect and to be left alone by us. Just was curious if there are any unwritten rules about patches that would upset them. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by savagethumper on 05/17/05 at 18:33:07 I hope ya'll didn't think I was praising these "real" gang members. They're scum of the earth. I was told to treat them like everyone else in prison, but they seem to attract trouble. Just like that post about gang members being wusses when their buddies are gone, that's absolutely true. When I'm escorting a gang member by himself, he is the most obedient guy around; but when he's around his cronies, he's all "F#%k you!" and "drop dead Boss!". I take it in one ear and out the other. I've scraped better crud off my shoes than any of these lowlife. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by sunny on 05/18/05 at 07:55:21 yes, this is america. yes, many men and women have sacrificed their lives to maintain our freedom. but do you wear a red bandana in known crips territory? no. i do not even let my KIDS wear red or blue bandanas for this very reason: if you want to look like a gang/1% club member then by all means dress like one. then you should expect to be treated like one. by everyone including rival club members AND the police. i also tell my daughters that the way to ensure being treated like a prostitute is to dress like one. rockers denote the territorial nature of 1% clubs. if you wear something with rockers, you then can expect to be hassled by the other clubs through whose territories you may inadvertantly ride. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by PerrydaSavage on 05/19/05 at 14:23:15 WOW!! Go to work outa town for a few days and come home to more thought provoking comments! First off gaz ... I love your "patch" designs ... from comments above, I've learned that "Rockers" are what signify territory and what might getcha into trouble in the wrong places ... but gawddarnit rockers kinda "set off" a back patch ... gives it that "look" ... all-the-same, I'm kinda reluctant to post a pic of my fake "colours" on account of the fact that the so-called rockers contain personal info ... maybe I'm just paranoid? As I've said they have only been worn twice ... for fun at local charity Rides ... Now sunny, I can't help but agree with your comments. I have a teenage daughter and I've had the "dress like a ho, get treated like a ho" conversation, so I know where you're comin' from ... But primarily, motorcycling is all about fun ... and if some ordinary people wanna "dress-up" once-and-awhile when they Ride, I don't really see the harm in it ... it's a shame that some Riders and/or groups (gangs?) take it so seriously ... As far as "gansta's" go, those guys are just thugs ... as others here have said, their strength comes in numbers ... as individuals they're all cowards. Nflder's are known for their laid-back attitude and friendly hospitality towards strangers, but I'd be willing to bet that any one of those "gangsta's" I've seen talkin' so tough on television wouldn't last 10 minutes in a downtown St. John's pub on a Friday nite ... he'd be laughed outa the place! |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by gazab44 on 05/19/05 at 14:45:35 DITTO PERRY :) |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Ed_L. on 05/19/05 at 16:10:04 I just got a laugh out of a Geico motorcycle insurance add on TV. It showed a rider with a 3 piece patch, yellow rockers on the top and bottom with red letters throughout. Hope the Banditos don't get too upset and beat up on thier TV's. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by sluggo on 05/19/05 at 23:14:32 the issue of colors is an emotionally charged one at the least. many bikers have died for them. that is why i choose to wear only well worn black leathers with no patches, pins, or insignia's. i am bad about cleaning the bugs off. in my world bikers who wear colors, also do crime. i'd rather just ride. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Mr 650 on 05/20/05 at 00:27:18 sluggo wrote:
Amen, brother. Put that on my "rocker". |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by gazab44 on 05/20/05 at 00:33:31 sluggo wrote:
I've been riding for 20 + years now and I have never associated biking with crime.....other people have associated me with crime though.....I might be a bit simple but I don't understand why.... Its not what you wear, its the mentality of the person.. At the moment in the UK places are banning the wearing of huddies and baseball caps because of the association with crime...what next?? |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by gazab44 on 05/20/05 at 03:01:29 Talking about mentality.........in the 70s when i was a lad, the fashion/craze was to wear a denim cut-off with your favourite rock bands name embroided on the back..well one night at a "rock disco" there a few members of a local mc, bare in mind the disco was for school children, anyway...the so called "tough" bikers walked around all night insisting that all the 15 and 16 year old school children took off their denim cut-offs because they were dis-respecting the mc patches..and at 15 you do not argue. So as you can imagine i do not have much respect for this club... Don't get me wrong though, i do not put all clubs in the same basket. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Savage_Rob on 05/20/05 at 06:10:07 gazab44 wrote:
Okay, I'll ask. WTF are "huddies"? ---------------------------------- Hang on. Are we talking about "hoodies" - as in hooded sweatshirts or am I making a leap on the wrong tangent? |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by CafeTbird on 05/20/05 at 06:29:18 Quote:
It's a shame, but it's a fact. The 1%er's take their colors very seriously because some have killed and died for them. It is there flag. The thing about the rockers that makes them so territorial is the name of the city or town on the bottom rocker. That is how they claim territory. If you are concerned about trouble with a local club, put "Independant" on the bottom rocker, or don't wear one. A two piece patch can look just as cool but will not get you into trouble. If you are just talking about "fake" colors, you shouldn't have any troubles without a bottom rocker. If you truly want to start a motorcycle club, you basically need permission from the local dominant club. You should approach the club and let them know your intentions, show them your patch and make it clear that you are not a threat to there territory. It 's kind of like the godfather. He is not the only mobster in town, but all the other mobsters operate with his blessing or there is trouble. It's very easy to start a club or wear colors if you so desire, but you gotta play by the rules. It's is better safe than sorry. I have some friends that were shot by the Outlaws. They were in a clean and sober motorcycle club, but they wore a three piece patch. They did not go through the proper channels and after several warnings, they decided they would not take off there colors for anyone. Two of them were pulled over and executed on the side of the road. There colors still hang upside down on the wall at the Outlaws clubhouse. Above all else, be safe! Frank |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Diane on 05/20/05 at 06:48:11 Everybody has pretty much covered this but just to summarize....... yes, Perry you would run into trouble. The flashlights that the Bandidos carry are not for light (more like lights-out). Last Sept. in NM I spoke with a guy who had done just what you did. Created his own colors for his own amusement and he had been confronted by some Bandits over it but he was still wearing them anyway. It is the 3 piece/rocker design that is considered "outlaw". My bf's club is Harley only, police only and they fly outlaw style colors. The Bandits here still work up the nerve to f**k with them about once a year in spite of the fact that they know they are all cops. The California chapter however seems to have little or no problem with the HAs. For anyone who thinks these poor guy are getting a bad rap........ They earned their ruptation. Police depts. all over the country work them as organized crime. So, why not turn the rockers into a full circle encompasing the center patch and make it all one piece. Problem solved. If anyone wants more details or has questions about outlaw clubs all I have to do is yell the question accross the house. |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by PerrydaSavage on 05/20/05 at 09:48:53 8)Back again folks! Quote:
CafeTbird, Diane, et al ... well the bottom rocker on my hand-painted job (this is not a sewn patch folks!) does indeed state the name of my home town and the abbreviation for Newfoundland (NL) ... and in my ignorance, I did not know the serious significance of this! ... rest assured, I'll never wear it anywhere where there are 1% outlaw clubs (like mainland Canada or the U.S.) ... but to be honest, around here I'd say it's pretty safe ... doubt if any 1% clubs even know where Newfoundland is ... or give a crap at any rate! Gazab44 my man ... particularly like the Suzuki Savage Dot Com design with the Bike in the middle ... think you could replace the "England" with "Newfoundland" and forward me a copy ... that's t-shirt material! Thanks for the interesting conversation folks ... I've really enjoyed it! |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Red_Wine on 05/20/05 at 14:15:58 CafeTbird wrote:
... and what did the local police do about it? >:( they know those colors were at least stolen from their legitimate owners !!! :o >:( here, we are lucky enough our police SWAT team is prepare to storm into any place, no matter what, "shoot first, ask later, f**k you if you were in the wrong place, we will bomb you down anyway" attitude when they feel their authority is being challenged... I'm glad I'll be in the US as a tourist only, if ever... RW |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by gazab44 on 05/20/05 at 14:42:00 Savage_Rob wrote:
your correct rob...sweatshirts with hoods on :) |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 05/20/05 at 17:23:35 rkutzner wrote:
Same here buddy Ive killed a lot better people who were just doing what I was protecting there country. 8) Not saying all clubs are bad. Just saying I will not be scared into submission in a country I was just about killed for~! Ride Free or Die! 8) |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Oklahoma_Mike on 05/20/05 at 18:59:30 Oklahoma_Mike wrote:
I went and mowed my yard and thought about what Sunny, Diane and some others said and I think I will change my option on this subject here's why. When I see someone burning the American flag I want to kick their ARSE. Many of my family have lost their lives on foreign shores and others have died upholding the laws at home. I have had to take lives for that flag and have suffered for that flag. I as many, know a small portion of the great amount blood that has been given to the Earth for this flag. So I understand where they are coming from not to say I agree with it , but I understand. It is one thing to make your own flag that is all original just like all the states have there own, but they should not fly higher than Old Glory. I guess I said all that to say when blood, sweat and or tears have been given for anything It should also be given a certain amount of respect. Sorry for the long post Just wanted to state my option after some thought on the subject. 8) 8) 8) |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by WD on 05/20/05 at 20:46:33 Well after all this, those who didn't know now should. Anything else on patches or colors should be e-mailed to law enforcement personell or ex-patches on the board. -WD |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by mpescatori on 06/18/12 at 09:14:22 I would like to rejuvenate this thread for a matter of common interest. Let's assume I have a jacket, i.e. one of those heavy duty cordura jackets meant for riding and not for posing. Let's assume I start stitching my old military parches on it, and some flags of odd places I've visited, so that one would find military patches on both upper sleeves (no rank insigna of any kind) some 10-12 flags (all of the same size) and unusual patches not "relateable" to any specific Club... "things I've done"... ...possibly on the chest, but there's only so much chest area before you start stitching on the belly, and that ain't respectful, so one would have to start stitching on the upper back... How would that be seen while riding solo (=alone) anywhere, by the local club and/or gang ? ::) Would they be able to tell between a gang member and one who sews stuff like people place stickers on their RVs? Just to give you an idea... http://www.museoalpinidarfo.it/img/distintivi/Cdo%20Tr.%20Alpine%20e%20Supporti/022.%204%C2%B0%20btg.trasm.%20Gardena.JPG http://www.esercito.difesa.it/Organizzazione/Organizzazione%20Centrale/Comando%20delle%20Forze%20Operative%20Terrestri/Il%20Comando%20dei%20Supporti%20delle%20Forze%20Operative%20Terrestri/Scuola%20delle%20Trasmissioni/PublishingImages/unita_sc_trs_scuti_scudo.jpg http://flagspot.net/images/n/nat-jfcn.gif http://www.honvedelem.hu/files/9/nato0_1317906560.jpg http://www.museoalpinidarfo.it/img/distintivi/Centro%20Addestramento%20Alpino/001.Scuola%20Mil.Alp.%20da%20braccio.JPG http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!B3!+iTwCGk~$(KGrHqMOKj0E)oHz+VzSBMkp!1O7N!~~_35.JPG http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Insignia_NATO_Army_SFOR.svg/220px-Insignia_NATO_Army_SFOR.svg.png http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/n/nat-nrf.gif Just thinking... ::) :-? |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Serowbot on 06/18/12 at 09:18:46 Those are safe, anywhere... they are patches... It's the club identifying rockers that are a no-no... |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Greg on 06/18/12 at 09:23:29 It is interesting that this was rejuvenated. I have a vest with a large Eagle/Flag patch on the back and a couple small patches above the front pockets. I never figured it would be a bad thing but every now and then I wonder. Edit... This is the patch on the back: http://www.thecheapplace.com/product_images/c/225/eagle-stars-patch__19076_std.jpg |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Serowbot on 06/18/12 at 09:34:59 That's fine too... "Rockers" are the letters that go above and below a patch (like a rocking chair skid)... Putting the wrong thing on a rocker can be a challenge to some 1% types... (mostly, identifying a club or territory, ...even a fictional one, like "Wild Hogs")... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Mongols_MC_Patch.jpg/320px-Mongols_MC_Patch.jpg |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by 12Bravo on 06/18/12 at 09:49:30 I belong to Bikers Against Child Abuse and we wear a 1 piece patch. Having rockers on your vest can get you into trouble with the clubs. One does NOT just start a motorcycle club (even if its just a social club) without getting permission from the dominant MC in the area. I have even seen guys get into trouble for wearing "wild hogs" patches or "Son's of Anarchy" patches on their vests. Most religious clubs/organizations wear a 1 piece patch with "MM" (motorcycle ministry) instead of "MC". Most MC's won't say anything about owner's groups or veteran patches, or patches like Greg has. When in doubt, ask first. Asking will save you troubles and headaches. Here is a picture of my vest. One has to get permission for 1 piece patches if it is seen as a club by the MC's. http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/12Bravo10/misc/backpatch.jpg |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by Greg on 06/18/12 at 10:07:00 Well that makes me feel better. I ordered this patch yesterday: http://www.thecheapplace.com/product_images/g/711/P2761-Smiley-Patch__13243_std.jpg |
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Title: Re: "Fake" Colors?? Post by mpescatori on 06/18/12 at 15:23:12 It must be ... likem 12 or 15 inches across ? 8-) |
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