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Message started by dadorfman on 02/23/05 at 16:59:57

Title: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by dadorfman on 02/23/05 at 16:59:57

If nothing else brands me as a newbie, this question is sure to do the job: Where can I find crash bars/engine guards for an '87 Savage?

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Savage_Rob on 02/23/05 at 21:38:39

I like the Wingerline Highwaybar (http://www.accessoryinternational.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AI&Product_Code=AUSWLS02). It's fits perfectly and is not just ornamental like the Suzuki version.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by dadorfman on 02/24/05 at 15:09:03

Thanks for the info. I thought I had entered every variant of "crash bars" into Google, and this site did not come up. I vote for naming standards!!!

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Greg_650 on 02/26/05 at 07:59:58

Savage_Rob wrote:

Hey, hey, hey. Ornamental? I have one and I think that it is a very nice little ornament It fits the bike's style (even if there wasn't a lot of thought put into the design).

Besides the Savage engine is so narrow that little of it will hit the ground in a spill anyway...the footpegs probably do just as well as anything. I know that mine did. After all, we aren't talking about a Beamer or Goldwing with engine parts hanging out.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Greg_650 on 02/26/05 at 08:02:18

dadorfman wrote:

Thanks for the info. I thought I had entered every variant of "crash bars" into Google, and this site did not come up. I vote for naming standards!!!

How about "engine crash roll-bar guard optional footpeg mount"? Try that in a Google search :o

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Savage_Rob on 02/26/05 at 21:20:27

Quote:

Hey, hey, hey. Ornamental? I have one and I think that it is a very nice little ornament It fits the bike's style (even if there wasn't a lot of thought put into the design).

I haven't actually seen one in person; just in photos. However, when I was considering buying one, I saw a number of posts on several sites stating it was only ornamental and I think the Suzuki site used to say something to that effect. Anyway, that's why I searched for another. I found the Wingerline and it looked somewhat like I remember having on my KZ750, so I bought it and have been happy with it. In fact, I don't really need foot pegs since I can just put my feet up on the bar.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Greg_650 on 02/27/05 at 09:09:30

Savage_Rob wrote:

It is ornamental :P But then again there is little to protect, IMO.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by dadorfman on 02/27/05 at 09:59:58

Suzuki might call them ornamental to protect themselves from lawsuits in the event of injuries. I would bet they are no less functional than the Wingerline.

David

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Greg_650 on 02/27/05 at 11:00:55

I just know that in my 1 spill on the Savage...where it slid on one side and flipped over to the other before stopping...that only the right footpeg, the muffler tip, the left rear turn signal, and the left side of the handle bar were damaged. Not a scratch on any engine cases or tank, and that was without an engine guard.

Anything more like an impact with something would most likely do damage in proportion with speed, and then any engine guard is useless. I imagine that only with engines that protrude outside the "frame envelope" will a guard be of any real benefit in a simple tipover or slide.

But what the hay, we gotta have our toys anyway ;D

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Savage_Rob on 02/27/05 at 11:07:14

I kinda like something that extends a bit further out too. It adds a bit more protection for my legs in a lay-down. I know my highwaybar and hard bags did for me on my KZ750.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Greg_650 on 02/27/05 at 11:16:16

Savage_Rob wrote:

I kinda like something that extends a bit further out too. It adds a bit more protection for my legs in a lay-down. I know my highwaybar and hard bags did for me on my KZ750.

Ah, but you got to remember that you never want to lay-down with your Savage (bike). You should always get off that horse in a fall.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Savage_Rob on 02/27/05 at 14:41:38

I'd rather not lay it down at all but that's not always realistic - as I found with my KZ. I'd like to think that experience has taught me some things that would decrease the probability but I'm not quite arrogant enough to believe it won't ever happen. Getting off in time would be my preference but sometimes I don't always get things my way and I'd rather hedge my bets when I can...

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Greg_650 on 02/28/05 at 05:07:20

Oh, don't I know.
:o

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by slavy on 02/28/05 at 07:11:42

In my oppinion the bars are only for looks and a good place to mount highway pegs. If You have already decided to try them , go on eBay and put search words "Suzuki LS650 bars" or just "Suzuki ls650" . I saw a set there.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Susan on 03/02/05 at 07:44:34

I have the Suzuki guard. When I got it there was a sticker on the guard or the box that said something like "For Ornamental Use Only". I just pulled out my installation instructions and they say, "Warning. This item is meant as an appearance enhancer only and does not provide any protection in a crash for the bike or rider".

As Greg points out, the engine is not the piece on the bike that sticks out the most so if you go down it probably is not in danger anyway. I've gone down three times (twice at low speeds and once at about 20 mph) and neither the engine or the engine guard was ever affected. Just the pipe, footpeg, mirrors, handlebars, tank (from the handlebar) and windshield. All the damage was pretty minor (mostly scratches) although I did break and have to replace my windshield.

Buy the guard for the way it looks or for a place to rest your feet. You don't need it for the engine...

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Greg_650 on 03/05/05 at 10:02:47

slavy wrote:

I tried footpegs on Suzuki guard....the clamp on kind....and I didn't like them. Sold them to a guy in Canada. I couldn't get them to stay tight and I didn't want to mess up the chrome either.

I also didn't like the balance with my knees as high as the tank...and geez, what a wierd feeling when you need to reach the brake. Moving my foot to grab some brake was way too slow if I needed to act quickly.

When I can afford them forward controls are my choice.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by sunny on 03/08/05 at 08:19:13

i took the guard off and i think it looks just fine without it.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by gitarzan on 03/08/05 at 10:44:10

I never said anything before, but I've never thought very highly of them.

From what I've read, you should worry about your skin and not the engine. And while crashes with an engine guard might prevent a broken ankle, it tends to tip you more and you end up grinding away a shoulder instead.

As far as looks go, I think they look about as good as nose-plugs on a swimmer.

There. >:(

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by sluggo on 03/08/05 at 11:08:09

gitarzan wrote:

ditto.

many years ago in when i was stationed in hawaii i had an old honda with crash bars. i was wiggling through traffic and caught the bar on cars bumper that had been bent somewhat. threw me right to the ground.
i went home and removed them. the bike is now like the arizona. sitting at the bottom of pearl harbor. it was a great ride off the end of the pier. quite spectacular. i made 50 bucks on the deal. not a bet, i charged money for people to watch, got them together collected the cash, then performed the stunt. it was one of several i did at pearl.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by gitarzan on 03/08/05 at 13:54:40

Quote:

then performed the stunt. it was one of several i did at pearl.

Tell them about the one with the donkey.

;D

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by sluggo on 03/08/05 at 16:36:22

gitarzan wrote:

Tell them about the one with the donkey.

;D

icks nay on the donkeynay, i didn't charge for that one, and you promised you wouldn't tell. :-[

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Savage_Rob on 03/09/05 at 05:35:41

LOL, returning to bravo piers... yup, I remember that.

Title: Re: Crash Bars/Engine Guards
Post by Greg_650 on 03/11/05 at 11:51:02

gitarzan wrote:

As far as looks go, I think they look about as good as nose-plugs on a swimmer.

There. >:(

So, you have issues with swimmers too.