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Message started by anfrewo on 01/21/05 at 06:03:46

Title: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by anfrewo on 01/21/05 at 06:03:46

My search goes on, I've found another good looking savage(and no not a new girlfriend ;) ).
The bike looks great except the exhaust which is blueish/black and has bad chrome all the way back.
Is this something to be alarmed of, overheated engine?
I'll see if i can be able to add the image.
http://bilder.mobile.de/images/autos/0/11111111152796913-5273-1105459982.bild
It seems to me being a newbie among savages, the exhaust is changed on this one(not the original).

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/21/05 at 06:15:23

That's definitely not a stock exhaust but blueing is normal.

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by Gargoyle on 01/21/05 at 06:18:41

Pipe blueing is fairly common on a Savage. When I bought mine the previous owner had put on a Jardine slip on and it was only slightly discolored. The header pipe is blue on almost all Savages. So I don't think it would be a problem with the Savage you are looking at.

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by thehoghunter on 01/21/05 at 06:43:11

That sure looks like a Jardine muffler - mine turned golden brown at the start but hasn't turned at all on the end like that. It may have more miles on it then mine. Plus, it's known that the chrome on the Jardine mufflers isn't as good so it will blue after time.

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by Greg_650 on 01/21/05 at 12:05:53

I changed my header, so I don't know. But my spouses header is still just fine with a SuperTrapp. The key is doing the rejetting along with the pipe change.

Even a rejetting to stop the backfires with the stock pipe will stop the bluing.

The completely stock setup will turn blue with time.

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by Savage_Rob on 01/21/05 at 12:17:03

That must be why mine stopped (or at least slowed) at a slight amber/gold. I actually kind of like it.

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by Greg_650 on 01/21/05 at 12:21:16

The amber color is kinda nice. Shows that the engine is working. It's the blue that can get kinda ugly looking.

It might be different if the pipe was stainless steel then the blue would be expected. But a double walled chrome pipe just doesn't seem right.

Hmmm, just imagine if the pipe were single wall stainless with the same outside diameter ::)

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by Susan on 01/22/05 at 10:11:41

anfrewo wrote:

My search goes on, I've found another good looking savage...

I LOVE that color on the Savage (red not the blueing). It is so gorgeous.

As the guys have said, the blueing is normal if the jetting wasn't done. As I understand it, the engine shouldn't have been adversely affected by the lack of jetting.

Are you going to buy this one?

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by anfrewo on 02/11/05 at 05:54:33

I was to buy this one..or another savage.
Money was ready, just waiting for the right bike.
THEN my girlfriends car was stolen and wrecked and the insurance wasn't covering theft. >:(
This means we had to buy her another car instead of a bike(and yes a car is more important, especially since the bikers season here in sweden is at its best 4months). :'(
Soo the plans for a savage has to, for the moment, be put on ice.
I'll be back in a year or two when we may afford a bike again.
And yes, it WILL be a savage! ;D
Thanks for your help and advice all of you and I'll see you again.

/Tony

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by marke2571 on 02/11/05 at 06:23:33

I am almost certain that the muffler on that Savage is not a Jardine, but a slip on sold by JC Whitney or the like. The Jardine doesn't have the best chrome, but its not as bad as some of the real cheapies. I would'nt count that against the bike.

Mark

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by cphilip on 02/11/05 at 07:21:48

I wouldn't be suprised if thats just a truck exhaust tip on there. Looks like the out turn pipe for one. Someone has been creative.

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by Mr 650 on 02/12/05 at 10:27:00

Howdy,
I like the red, definite chick magnet,
If it runs good, snag it.
Then read everything on this site and the Savage-Heise site;
http://www.heise-workstations.de/ls650/LS650-e.html
Then have fun!

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by raytoews on 02/13/05 at 12:48:39

Blueing is caused by heat, I think it is a consequence of running hard and lean. Mine is hardly blue at all after 25000 km but I run it pretty easy. Some of them blue and others don't, it could be something to do with the double wall pipe, Suzuki probably went with a double wall to avoid this, maybe drilling small holes in the outer pipe to let air circulate would help.
My muffler developed a blue band near the back after about 5000km and then cracked at the mount. I got a new one on warranty and before installing it I drove a 5/8 steel rod thru from the rear. It got rid of the hissing from too much back pressure and hasn't turned blue at all.
ray

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by klx650sm2002 on 02/14/05 at 00:13:32

I use a black coating on KLX's pipe and it burns the first 6-7" off (would be blue if it was chrome), it's only a single skin pipe so I geuss I'll just have to keep redoing the coating.

Clive W :D

Title: Re: Blueish exhaust=problem??
Post by Mr 650 on 02/14/05 at 08:59:51

My ceramic-metallic coating still looks like new.
http://www.icestormcity.com/elsnod/pipe%20009.jpg
The 'Trapp is turning gold around the inlet.
I had the header coated inside & out.