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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Savage_Rob on 12/07/04 at 07:47:15 I know there are several gel and air cushion replacements. Suzuki even offers a gel seat now. I have actually been quite satisfied with a genuine sheepskin pad/cover on mine though. There is an Australian outfit called Sheepy Hollow (http://www.sheepyhollow.com/) that offers a quality product at reasonable prices. I used the cruiser seat pad (http://www.sheepyhollow.com/seatpad/products/cruiser.htm) and like it a lot. It adds a cushion and it's cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter. Their prices are in AUS $, so check your exchange rate to be sure. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Max_Morley on 12/07/04 at 21:37:23 Medimum size AirHawk pad fixed things up for me. I'd recommend it to anyone with the 30 minute TB complaint. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/08/04 at 06:07:27 Max_Morley wrote:
That looks like it will do the trick nicely. $170 for a pad - Wow! How securley does it attach? |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Max_Morley on 12/08/04 at 09:25:52 The cover has loops for securing it on all 4 corners. I used leather lacing and/or long cable ties to run loop to loop under the seat and then reinstalled the seat. Still could be cut off but I've not had a problem in 4 seasons. If that is a concern, might consider velcro on loops and seat so it could be detached. It needs to be covered at night or it will collect dew however and be wet in the AM. Be glad they are $170, they were $200 in the beginning. :) |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Susan on 12/09/04 at 15:59:42 Don't forget about the spacer fix. I haven't done it 'cause I did another seat mod but I know lots of guys have added spacers on the front seat bolt to raise up the front of the seat. Its cheap and makes the ride more comfortable because it stops you from sliding forward onto the tank. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by sluggo on 12/11/04 at 15:53:42 here's my cure. 9 in chopper seat with springs. i did a hundred mile ride today with the springer seat. was a bit nippy but the ride was comfortable. see photo http://predator.bikepics.com/pics/suzuki-savage-04-bikepics-256854.jpg |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/12/04 at 17:59:55 Very nice seat (and rear fender)! |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by sluggo on 12/13/04 at 00:20:24 HotFix wrote:
the seat comes from here http://www.crc2onlinecatalog.com/chopper.htm they have lots of old school chopper parts. i bought my seat used from jon d. used the springs from an old bicycle seat. the fender comes from the savage's older brother, the 81 gn 400. they later updated it in the japaneese domestic market as a 400 savage chain drive. the original light mounted right in the same holes as the old light. how sweet. welcome to the community and enjoy the ride. RIDERS RIDE. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/13/04 at 04:13:16 I found a cheap 03 rear fender on ebay. ?I was thinking of Bobbing it for a similar look. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by red2k1 on 12/19/04 at 04:26:06 On my '02 Savage I finally have the seating position and ergnomics the way I want it and the ride is almost cushy. What I did: got rid of the OEM spacers/cushions from the front mounting point of the seat and replaced them with automotive shock busings. Used two bushings on each side. Each bushing was about an inch and a half high. Resecured the seat and compressed the bushings about 1/3. Also, added additional rubber shock absorbing material to the under side of the seat at the contact points to the frame. Helped a lot but wanted more. Added a driver's backrest which greatly reduced riding fatigue, but needed more. Added the Suzuki gel seat and had the comfort and control just about where I wanted it. I consider the project finished now with the addition of a fork brace and highway pegs added to the OEM engine guard. Now riding through a full tank of fuel is no problem. The Savage now rides like a much larger cruiser, but with very crisp handling and I dislike having to stop for fuel. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by thehoghunter on 12/20/04 at 11:07:39 Somone on eBay is selling a Cobra style seat for $150 - half the original cost. Tell your significant other it's not to late to Christmas shop! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4513359632&category=35589 (and no, it's not me selling it! :) or anyone I know...) |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by cphilip on 12/20/04 at 18:22:34 I was looking at that. I might go ahead and bid on it. tell me something. Can you still leave the Sissy bar and all on there? I would of course have the sissybar pad redone to match but... want to keep it. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by thehoghunter on 12/22/04 at 10:23:13 Yea, you can leave the sissy bar on with those seats as far as I know - the one I got (Toba style) was a pain but would fit on with the sissy bar. I've never heard anyone complain about the Cobra style one ever. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/26/04 at 11:20:58 Poop. Was outbided on the seat. I guess I'll keep looking. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/26/04 at 11:23:44 HotFix wrote:
You Don't Mess With GITARZAN!!!!! Buwahahahaha!!! ;D http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4513359632&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/26/04 at 11:30:48 My new seat: http://i21.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/11/0c/51_1.JPG |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/26/04 at 12:31:41 Very nice. I tried to get the "HotFix" name, but it was taken. http://offer.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=4513359632 It was my first eBay bid - almost had it. I'm such a newbie. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by cphilip on 12/26/04 at 15:00:50 gitarzan wrote:
Nice score Guitar... I decided to lay off it when I saw you had started bidding on it the other day. No need to make a fellow member of ours pay more I figure. Heck I was rooting for you to get it for the $150! Hotfix... you gave him way too much time and too much notice. Ya gotta learn to snipe. Go in with your bestest and mostest price and one time.... final minutes. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/26/04 at 16:56:26 cphilip wrote:
He bidded over me after 9 seconds and left < 5 seconds on the auction. I had no chance. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by cphilip on 12/27/04 at 07:13:33 Yea but what you did was tell him your next bid was not that much over where it was... by bidding several times trying to find his top bid. And you established that you were bidding in small increments. So he knew to just add a few bucks and snipe you back. Which he did... He put his in with no time left and he sorta knew how much to go up to get you. Because you established a pattern. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/27/04 at 08:35:45 cphilip wrote:
Wow - I guess a lot of thought goes into that eBay stuff. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by cphilip on 12/27/04 at 08:54:06 It's cutthroat.... :o |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/27/04 at 11:09:56 He cost me $58 with 3 minutes to go!!! ;D I bid the $150 about 3 days before the auction, just to "mark my territory." The min bid was $150 anyway, so I hoped it might discourage anybody here that knew me. (It didn't, completely, bot HotFix is new here and I've not been posting much lately, so I can forgive him ;) ) About 3 hours before the auction ended I thought I was going to have to leave the house for a while, so I bid up to 202.56 (If I remember right) just in case. Then I found that plans were cancelled and so I sat by the PC for the few hours, with the auction page open and pressing F5 every few minutes. I was doing other stuff in the meantime. With five minutes to go I began to give it my earnest interest. With three minutes to go HotFix began bumping it up a few bucks at a time. With about a minute to go I decided how much more I wanted to go. I tried to buy one of these at full price last spring at $300+ dollars so I decided to bid up to $250. After my bid went in, I think HF bid one more time (I'm at work and can't check it since it's blocked) and that was it. I got it for $208.00 If I hadn't thought I was going out earlier, I've have waited until 20 seconds then bid $225 and probably could have gotten it for $160. When it comes to sniping on Ebay, I'm an old hand. I've lost a few in that game, but I almost always win. 8) |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/27/04 at 11:53:18 It wasn't my intent to make you spend more gitarzan nor did I realize you had bid on it until I saw the posts here. I guess eBay lesson #2 is not to get in a bidding war with your buddy - check first. :-) |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/27/04 at 15:29:41 I'm just kidding about that stuff. I'm glad I got it of course, BUT if I didn't, I'd rather it be one of "youse" guys than anyone else. :D Besides, there is no unwritten rule here about eBay. It was fair game for all. If I'd lost, I'd haved lived. :P |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by cphilip on 12/27/04 at 16:42:43 Anything under 250 was a great deal. I woulda and did guess you would have gone 250. I woulda bid 259.99 at the last second. But since I saw you early on staking it out. I just let it go. Had it been anyone else but someone here.... I woulda gone for it. You got a good deal. Those are not available anymore from what I know. So finding a brand new one and for way under MSRP.... is a great find. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Nightrain on 12/27/04 at 16:50:43 Hey Cphillip, are you the same Cphillip that I see frequenting my 2nd favorite board, the Scooter BBS? |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/27/04 at 18:01:38 cphilip wrote:
Thank you for stepping aside. I do appreciate the consideration. Pictures in March... |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by cphilip on 12/27/04 at 18:12:40 Not a problem Guitar.... people have done it for me. And recently I might add. And thats why I always tell people to use something recognizable on all boards and ebay. So we can take care of each other. In fact a few people stepped aside on a tasty item for me a few weeks back. So we gotta watch each others back. So we don't end up paying to much. It's all for play so no need to make it expensive. I am cphilipao on eBay. close enough people recognize it. Nightrain wrote:
Thats me! I am cphilip everywhere I go? whats your nick on the Scooter BBS? |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/27/04 at 18:38:51 I've seen others here on eBay and enjoyed watching the battle. I'll see stuff that I know is going to have a bidding war and I'll just sit and watch and keep on tapping the F5 key. I've done a lot of eBaying for cameras and guitar stuff and have had my butt out-sniped several times. I remember once there was an item that I really wanted and I mistyped something at the last second... I lost. Funny thing is I don't even remember what I was bidding on now. If you don't watch out, it can have almost a gambling type of thrill to it. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/28/04 at 04:25:30 I agree gitarzan. I found myself way wrapped up in it at the time. I signed up HotMotoFix on eBay. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/28/04 at 06:33:24 FWIW I saw a seat from a newer model, the gel type 2 parter, on there last night. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Nightrain on 12/28/04 at 08:34:55 I was going by LJS or Long John SIlver on the bbs. I just sold my 70 sprint to fund the puchase of my 01 Savage. I thought I recognized the username. Thats fantastic. I got into the scooter scene by way of default. I got a sweet deal on a bike that needed a clutch side seal. I have a love for all types of small engines and I had just sold my Shadow Aero 1100 (too much bike for my skinny a**). Vespas are great if you never need to leave the town you live in but in my world they just arent practical enough. I would love to have kept it but I just couldn't afford both. I guess the world is smaller than you think. Peace!! ;D |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/28/04 at 08:46:19 gitarzan wrote:
Thanks. I picked up that 2003 seat for a song! |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/28/04 at 17:45:42 HotFix wrote:
AND, you got it with 2 seconds to spare against competition! Nice bid!!! ;D |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by cphilip on 12/28/04 at 19:10:14 I was watching! You got the hang of it now Hotfix!!! ;D |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/29/04 at 06:14:29 I thought it was a bit funny how you knew what was going on in my head on this first action. I kept that in mind this time. cphilip wrote:
That and gitarzan's last second bit. ;) |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by cphilip on 12/29/04 at 06:30:54 Your a quick learner... First off determine shipping and payment methods are acceptable to you. Double check the sellers feedback and feel comfortable with that. Research online the price of what it is and what a decent deal would be. So you can settle on a bid price. If you have any questions send them and wait on reply. Then as to bidding... Two options... bid early and establish your top bid from the research you did... All your going to pay or let it go.. to discourage anyone else. Like Guitar did. Letting people know your on it. It not only discourages anyone else... it tells your friends your on it. And they have to decide how badly they want it. Or bid late, all your willing to go and send with one minute left (depends on your connection speeds)... so it gets in with a few seconds or so to go. Sniping is whats its called. There are bidding software programs out there that will do that for you if your away or think you might forget the time. They work realy nicely. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 12/29/04 at 06:57:00 This thread should be renamed to eBay, Savages and Buddies: a how to guide ;D Or maybe this is all old news to everyone else. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/29/04 at 12:56:52 e-B-a-y is blocked here where I work. I have actually taken a sick day to stay at home and bid on a hot one. I remember losing, even though I don;t remember what it was. A guitar pedal I think. Another time I drove home on lunch, sniped my final and winning bid, and went back to work. I remember that win, an old Canon EF. The original EF. Sweeeeeeeet. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by PerrydaSavage on 12/29/04 at 16:15:33 I too recently got a sweet deal on a Nat. Cycle Flyscreen on e-bay ... actually my wife, who is a pretty adept e-bayer got it for me ... told her how much I'd be willing to go and not a cent more ... watched it for a few days to see how quickly it was climbing and she waited 'til the last couple of minutes and snicked in with my bid and nailed it! Worst thing is though, it that living here in Canada, you usually get nailed on shipping and often with customs as well ... |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gandalph40 on 12/29/04 at 19:02:40 Heck, I got my Thumper on eBay...looked for over 2 years and finally found the right one! My recommendation...if it's hi-dollar, talk to the seller! |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/30/04 at 06:27:07 My thumper was an eBay win too! |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Paladin on 12/30/04 at 06:36:25 So was mine. I was using Cycle Trader (http://www.cycletrader.com) and was looking at a 2000 offered at $2500 only about 60 miles south of me. Then the same bike showed up on eBay. My two nearest Suzuki dealers did not have any Savages in stock, and the one said they never would as the Savage leaked oil and vibrated too much for the yuppies and their puppies. The dealer in LB had a 2004 tagged at over $5K. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/30/04 at 17:40:40 FWIW there's a ton of parts on eBay at the moment. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by sluggo on 12/30/04 at 22:12:05 gitarzan wrote:
a ton of parts you say. well there was that guy that got his savage stolen a short time ago. he posts on berts forum.. intresting |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 12/30/04 at 22:17:27 I was aware of that too! :( A lot of them is from Anderson from the advert bar on the forum. The stolen bike was from Boston. I did check to see where the other sellers parts were from and they didn't seem to be from that area. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 01/03/05 at 09:46:32 Here's a link I found on Bert's: Worth a repost here, http://www.motorrad-burchard.de/pages/produkte_en.php4?produktwahl=sitzbaenke_ls_650_savage --- Off topic - Non-Butt-related: Also this is kind of spiffy... http://www.motorrad-burchard.de/images/produkte/h463-100.1_gr.jpg |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 01/03/05 at 10:35:33 Those are very nice seats! Have you got yours in yet? I should get the 03 Savage seat I got off of eBay any day now. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 01/03/05 at 11:20:44 Mine's got another few weeks. I can't ride anyway for a few more months. The seller want's MO or Cashier's Checks, so I had my Bill Pay service send him a check. He'll probably get it in a week. I hope to see it abut a week later. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 01/05/05 at 16:10:54 It's at my local UPS and has had it's destination scan done. It should on a truck before long and at my house tomorrow!! ;D |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 01/06/05 at 04:57:34 I just got my 03 Savage seat yesterday. It looks pretty rough, but it does feel softer than my 01 seat (which is in better condition). I'll try the new one out and sell the one I don't like on eBay. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 01/06/05 at 16:35:22 Mines here! ;D http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gitarzan/DSC02468.gif Those are my guitars, this time. 8) |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Savage_Rob on 01/06/05 at 20:14:58 Man, that is one beautiful seat! With regard to pads as opposed to a whole new seat, I'd seen the Travelcade and Airhawk types but this one was new to me. It looks interesting - especially since the company also makes pads for medical use. I'm using a sheepskin cover at the moment and am pleased with it. It's cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter... basically great for all seasons around town and short trips but I am looking into other possibilities for longer rides and if I can slide one under my sheepskin, so much the better. GEL TEC - CRUZER MOTORCYCLE CUSHION (http://geltecproducts.com/detail.aspx?ID=23) |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by PerrydaSavage on 01/07/05 at 00:43:42 8)Git, you are one lucky MoFo! That seat is truely gorgeous!! Make sure you post some pics after ya get 'er installed! |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by HotFix on 01/07/05 at 05:51:10 I'll through my new seat on once the weather cools back down to normal. Doesn't look anywhere as nice as that one, but my butt will be covering it! I can see how this eBay thing can be additive. I'm now bidding on a new tank! |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by lancer27 on 01/07/05 at 06:33:52 The GEl-Tec cushion is a wonderful thing. My wife has back problems, 2 bad discs in the lower lumbar, and I got her a seat cushion from the company that manufactures the Gel-Tec product...it is a medical pad made for folks who are confined to wheelchairs and is nothing short of miraculas. She can sit for hours in a chair or a car seat whereas before 30 minutes was the most she could do. The Gel-Tec product is the best gel I have ever seen. If you go to the manufacturers website you can get the gel itself for about $30, trim to fit your seat and put it in a zipper pouch. I am away from home now but when I return next week I will post the home website for the product. I was my plan to make a full one-piece seat using the Gel-tec during the winter. When complete I will post the pic's of the project. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Savage_Rob on 01/07/05 at 07:31:32 It's good to hear from someone who has some actual experience with the product (at least reliable second-hand experience, in this case). I hate thinking about buying over the web without input other than the manufacturer's claims. The only thing I saw as a bit different with this company is that they produce a lot of therapeutic pads using the same materials as are used in the motorcycle seat pad. This is the basic GEL TEC Technology (http://geltecproducts.com/our_technology.htm) page with links to their various products. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by thehoghunter on 01/07/05 at 11:16:15 Gitarzan, can you post a picture of the bottom side of the seat? I'm curious if it's set up the same as the GTS Toba. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 01/08/05 at 21:02:02 thehoghunter wrote:
Okeley Dokeley... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gitarzan/seat/seat1.gif At the top is an inset where the back bar goes. Then there's some bumpers that go against the fender. Then you got yer German sticker, I don't know what it says. Is doesn't say Verboten or have any exclamation marks or death's heads, so I'll ignore it for now. Then there's some more bumpers with a place to mount the electronic ignition module. At the bottom is the infamous steel plate. You can see the holes that bolt it to the front seat bracket assy. You can pull back the front leather part of the seat to access the bolt heads to screw it down, but I've heard how it's a good way to scratch the bejeebers out of your tank. Odar sent me a great idea how he mounted his with a homemade mounting plate and bolts that rise above it that holds it on with friction. I may well utilize his solution or my own variant of it. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by thehoghunter on 01/09/05 at 05:25:09 First suggestion: Quote:
Do NOT use that mount for the ignition module - the first thing you will do is forget you mounted it and pull to hard and break the wires - $300 new from Suzuki. You can put the module down into the air box (I think by removing the [|] rubber 'hose'). Second suggestion: Use Odar's method or one of your own - yes, that front plate will scratch your tank. Hopefully you don't have to tear it apart (although it a fun learning experience ::) ). I would like to see the instructions Odar had for you as this is the first time I have heard that that sytle seat was not mounted as is. And yes, I know about the first suggestion through experience - my seat has been a expensive lesson. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by gitarzan on 01/17/05 at 13:17:35 thehoghunter wrote:
Here's remote link to our email, with his instructions http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gitarzan/LassesFix/ |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Susan on 01/17/05 at 16:13:10 gitarzan wrote:
If you post a readable version, I bet Kropatchek could translate it for you... |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by thehoghunter on 01/17/05 at 18:56:28 or use Babelfish (http://babelfish.altavista.com/) - type in what you can and tell it to translate the language to english. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Savage_Rob on 01/18/05 at 06:08:51 I got my GEL TEC - CRUZER MOTORCYCLE CUSHION (http://geltecproducts.com/detail.aspx?ID=23) last Friday and got a chance to try it out over the weekend. That is one seriously comfortable pad, for both cushioning and vibration dampening. It's shaped like a solo seat but works just fine on the stock seat. I'm actually glad it is shaped the way it is since I intend to change my seat to a solo type similar to Sluggo's at some point in the future. |
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Title: Re: Replacement Seat to cure monkey butt Post by Savage_Rob on 01/19/05 at 14:07:13 ... and an added bonus of using the detachable pad... I can take it with me and use it when my daughter has her dance competitions and I wind up sitting on high school bleachers for hours at a time! |
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