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Message started by krat on 09/16/04 at 15:01:41

Title: Hard Luggage Case
Post by krat on 09/16/04 at 15:01:41

Hi everyone,

I'm new and am happy to have found this community here.

Does anyone know of a good solution for using hard luggage on the Savage? I would like to get a Givi-type case to be placed behind the back seat.

Questions:
- Any reccommendations for reasonably priced cases?
- Also, is the Savage's luggage rack (I know I can buy one for about $70)  all I need to mount the case on?

THanks!

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Kropatchek on 09/17/04 at 05:15:42

To answer your questions.
- No I don't
- Yes, you can mount the hardcase on the rack.

Greetz
Kropatchek

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/17/04 at 06:03:42

There are a number of universal trunks/topcases listed on eBay.  You might find one you like there.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Gargoyle on 09/17/04 at 06:13:13

JC Whitney has 2 hard trunk cases.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/s-10101/p-3082/c-10111

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/s-10101/p-4329/c-10111

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by krat on 09/17/04 at 10:17:15

Thanks for the reply.

Does anyone have any experience mounting those boxes? I called a couple of mbike stores here in the bay area and they said that the savage rack is too short for ANY box, and as for Givi boxes, they need a proprietary rack which Givi does not make for the savages.

I find that hard to believe, since 3 out of 3 stores said that I should give up on the idea because there is no solution for my bike. One even asked me why I bought this instead of the more popular cruisers! Or a BMW since I want a 'BOX',,,

What the nerve! I love my Savage, and am looking for a bo becuase I have had saddle bags stolen 2 times, and had to replace broken backseats. Darn, does NO ONE here use a topcase (ok I know it is uncool, but I use my bike to commute to work and need to stop taking jackets, ringear, helmets into my office...)

ANy advice would be great. Thanks!

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Petertheblacksmith on 09/17/04 at 10:25:42

I have a set of hard bags on my Savage. They are made by Kappa, and you can buy a rack for the Savage. Very easy to take on and off, allyou need is to twist the key and press a little red button, and you have two suitcases. Neat. These bags also fit the Five Stars and Givi racks.
Look for Kappa K21 Cruiser.
Good luck !
Peter the blacksmith

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/17/04 at 11:06:46

Well, I'll probably know more this weekend.  I have one I got from eBay slated to arrive today and I'll probably get to mounting it this weekend.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by domino on 09/17/04 at 13:06:31

Peter;

Any way you can post a pic of the hard bags on your savage. Would love to see what they look like. I have the same problem as Krat has. I work in a high crime area, in my cities downtown. Soft bags would last about 15 seconds, till the thugs either walked off with them, or slashed the straps. Although my office has it's own parking, people use the lot as a shortcut .....Thanks..........cheers

Michael

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Greg_650 on 09/18/04 at 06:42:22


krat wrote:
Thanks for the reply.

I called a couple of mbike stores here in the bay area and they said that the savage rack is too short for ANY box, and as for Givi boxes, they need a proprietary rack which Givi does not make for the savages.



I really don't think that you'll be mounting any serious luggage on the Savage rack.  It's barely big enough for a 6 pack, but it does make a pretty good tail light visor.

I mounted a tool bag on mine.  It's functionality is really nothing more that chrome dressing.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Paladin on 09/18/04 at 09:32:58

I'm looking at http://www.hoese.com/lealyke.htm -- hard lockable saddlebags for the Savage.  They have no picture of the bags on the bike.  Mentioned these to the wife.  I might have pictures after my birthday in November or after Christmas.  ;D

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by sandra on 09/18/04 at 10:25:36

Peter  &  Paladin (and other 'siders'):

what made you decide on hard side cases/saddlebags instead of  top cases? What  are some of the advantages (i know they  are more expensive than the  tops)?

thanks!

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by kratt on 09/18/04 at 10:35:58

Savage Rob- how did the mounting go?

What rack are you using, and what is the make and size of ur box? did you have to remove the backrest?

Good luck!

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Paladin on 09/18/04 at 11:23:20


sandra wrote:
Peter  &  Paladin (and other 'siders'):

what made you decide on hard side cases/saddlebags instead of  top cases?
Same reason I have a Savage 650 rather than a Burgman 650 (with it's 55 liters of storage under the seat) -- looks.

On the practical side there is a matter of keeping the weight low, but to be honest I don't see myself packing that much.  The saddlebags are large enough to take my laptop on one side and tools/parts on the other.
(On the side I ride to the rescue of those with computer/DSL problems.)

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/18/04 at 12:31:30

Well, just got it and I think it's really gonna look good (of course we each differ on that opinion< i'm sure) and work well.  It has no branding but is supposedly made by Emgo.  The Savage rack is definitely too short on its own to mount this but I think I can make an adaptor/extension plate to fit between the rack and the trunk fairly easily.  I'm going to draw up what I need today and maybe make it tomorrow.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by tim_savage_rider5 on 09/18/04 at 13:36:56

yeah, why anyone would want to dump a plastic box on their bike is beyond me. i know that there is a BIG bike-with-box fetish in both Europe and Asia, but it has never caught on here in  the US, and i hope it will not spread like a virus? to the savge riders trying  to  start a trend,  there must be a  good  reason  why  the  rest of us  (including  OTHER brand bikers)  don't  use boxes.  It's UGLY!

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/18/04 at 14:18:00

I guess it's all a matter of opinion but I certainly don't intend to try turning my Savage into a touring bike.  It's a light cruiser and will stay that way.  However, I like to be able to carry miscellaneous items (tools, flashlight, first aid kit, etc.) and prefer not to have to untie/unpack and carry them every time I park my bike.  Since my preference is not to use the hard side bags on this bike (though I did like them on my KZ750), I am using a medium topcase/trunk.  I tend to think it's more aerodynamic than the side bags but I'm not going to go to the extent of a wind-tunnel test to know for sure.  If I notice drag, it'll come off.  Once I get it done, I'll take a photo and try to find a way to post it.  If you like it, that's nifty.  If not, well that's just peachy too.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Paladin on 09/18/04 at 20:14:04

I live in LaLaLand, and the traffic is horrid.  One of the reasons I wanted a bike was for shopping -- bikes park near the entrance, not in the boondocks where you need to pack water for the hike to the doors.  Can't put two gallons of milk in a pocket.  To be honest, I've bookmarked the second of the J.C.Whitney boxes, above.  Will have to see how yours looks.  On the road.  Get someone to snap you as you roll past -- side, front quartering, rear quartering.  

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Greg_650 on 09/19/04 at 03:17:11

I figure that a good old milk crate tied to the luggage rack would be good  :o

Actually, I took my bags off, only for use on long trips.  In that case, I'll just throw them over the seat.

BTW - after 4 years, the straps on my leather bags were beginning to tear, so I figured that I'd put them into semi-retirement.  Took off the supports too.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by klx650sm2002 on 09/19/04 at 04:02:35

I have a small rack on KLX and have never used it yet but I keep it just in case.

Clive W  :D

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/19/04 at 15:58:52

Okay, the one I got from eBay is the same as the first JCW link above.  The only difference I can see is I paid $45 instead of $85.  I don't know how to post a pic but I guess I'll figure that out sometime soon.  In any case, I like the results with one exception... I'll be removing it sometime in the near future to primer and paint the adaptor plate I used to mount it.  I basically just used a 1/8" x 6" x 12" aluminum plate as an extension of the standard Savage rack I already had.  It was necessary to remove the pad from the sissy bar to get this trunk to fit but the trunk has a built-in backrest that's larger and higher than the one that had been on the sissy bar in the first place... not that I ever go 2-up on her.  This seems to be quite sturdy.  I'll probably make a smaller pad to fit it there just for looks though.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Greg_650 on 09/20/04 at 02:40:07

Yep, a picture would be cool.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/20/04 at 06:07:09

Let's try this.  Here's a shot of Nadine and her box. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nihndja/detail?.dir=739f&.dnm=8b1f.jpg


Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Susan on 09/20/04 at 06:45:00


Savage_Rob wrote:
Let's try this.  Here's a shot of Nadine and her box. http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/414ed455z9480fc5d/739f/__sr_/8b1f.jpg?phEktTBBU9X73dPe


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Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/20/04 at 07:15:12

I just modified the post with a different URL.  Please try that one.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Susan on 09/20/04 at 08:14:56


Savage_Rob wrote:
I just modified the post with a different URL.  Please try that one.


That worked.  Wow.  That's a big box!  Does it fit your helmet?  Your flames on the tank are cool, btw.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/20/04 at 08:17:58

Yes.  It'll easily fit a full face helmet.

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by klx650sm2002 on 09/21/04 at 05:19:37

I like flames too, want them on My KLX.

Clive W  :D

Title: Re: Hard Luggage Case
Post by Savage_Rob on 09/21/04 at 08:43:04

They are the removable reusable variety, available from Cycle Graphics at http://www.cyclegraphics.com/.  Just be sure the surface is clean, smooth and free of moisture and they work well.

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