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Message started by jendesigner on 08/23/04 at 06:30:13

Title: Kuryakyn grips
Post by jendesigner on 08/23/04 at 06:30:13

To all or any who have put on Kuryakyn grips is the "Universal–1 inch" the one's I should order? If I remember right this is correct. Are they the same length as our grips now? I don't have any more room to give with the bars I have. I'm guessing the throttle sleeve just fits inside without a problem, at least I hope so.
Thanks.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 08/23/04 at 06:57:51

I have an additional question. Does anyone know how much thicker they are than the original grips? Or if you have the Kuryakyns and are willing, would you measure the circumference? I can measure the original grips to compare. I am interested in these but am worried they might be too big for me because my hands are "smaller than de average bear"...

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by gitarzan on 08/23/04 at 07:46:21

You will have throttle sleeve problems.

The Savage throttle sleeve has ridges running along it. You will need to scrape, sand or file them down befire it will fit. Not an unsurmountable job, since you're dealing with plastic.

OR you can do like I did and hammer it on with a rubber mallet. Somehow the scrape, sand or file concept wasn't made clear to me before I decided the hammer was the tool for me. Needless to say, my grips are going to be on there for a long time...

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 08/23/04 at 08:54:32

I took my throttle grip to a belt sander and removed the ridges...another option would be to find a set with a new throttle sleeve.

Got to be fast and accurate with that adhesive too.

I have the part number that I used and I'll post it later.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by jendesigner on 08/23/04 at 09:09:51

Greg_650 wrote:

another option would be to find a set with a new throttle sleeve.

Do they have a throttle sleeve that will work with our bike? Or do I get one from Suzuki?

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 08/23/04 at 14:09:05

Here is the photo....

Now, these grips are wonderful...plain and simple. They are comfy and being larger they are easier to grip. You will never regret them over stock, plus they don't have that irritating (to me) end cap that is stationary. The whole grip turns on the throttle. If you forget your gloves for a short trip..."forget about it". You don't need them for anything less than 100 miles in that case.

Plus, I believe that Kuryakyn makes a "Throttle Buddy" to take care of the cruise control issue and it bolts to this.

What I meant about the throttle tube is this. The one in the Savage is used on other bikes too. How do I know? Because it is made for a push/pull cable arrangement (2 cables) but the Savage doesn't use both. So, using my kind of inverse logic, I figure that there should be another tube for another bike for a 1" bar with the same internal cable turn that DOESN'T have the grooves that must be removed....

Anyway, this is the ones that I bought. If you have a skilled friend with a belt sander, he can fix the grooves in just a few minutes. If I did, so can he.

Just remember that you must follow the instructions with the adhesive. Important! If you stop moving before you get the grip where you want it...it will be where you don't want it. That is some good adhesive and I have one grip that is about 1/16" in the wrong place :o)

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/215/215131/folders/156326/1200066NewGrip1web.jpg

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by jendesigner on 08/23/04 at 14:16:37

Thanks Greg that helps. I do woodwork so using my belt sander should not be a problem. I will order some grips today.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 08/23/04 at 14:22:38

Hey Jen, I was looking at these too. On CruiserCustomizing they list KY-6235 as the right model number for Suzuki instead of 6240. Don't know if that would make a difference or not but just thought I would mention it.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 08/23/04 at 14:38:14

There too is another interesting thing. I bought mine over a year ago on the advice of someone else. When I asked the dealer, he said there was no specific model for the Savage. So, I stubbornly ordered these anyway. They worked.

Now on the other hand, after 4 years I am noting more Savage specific stuff offered by after market companies...in '00 it was really scarce.

It is quite possible that either stuff that say was once "only for an Intruder" has been re-cataloged to show that it fitted the Savage all along, too. OR the after-market companies are paying attention to this forum, and the many others like it, and producing more for our bikes.

I'd check both part numbers out. I don't know if the other ones have the same style or not. I do know that the rubber inserts on the ones shown above are hollow and act like pillows.... ::)

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 08/23/04 at 17:58:22

Greg_650 wrote:

...I'd check both part numbers out. I don't know if the other ones have the same style or not. I do know that the rubber inserts on the ones shown above are hollow and act like pillows.... ::)

The two do look the same on the outside with the comfy rubber inserts. Whether what is on the inside is different I can't tell.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 08/24/04 at 02:00:52

Does your version come with a new throttle tube? As the package says, mine were universal fit. No tube.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by jendesigner on 08/24/04 at 06:31:02

I'm calling Kuryakyn this morning and asking all the info. I'll let everyone know later.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by jendesigner on 08/24/04 at 06:45:47

OK, I just called them and the only one's we can use are the 6240. Actually if you go to the Kuryakyn site you will notice that on the 6235 our bike is not listed. Once again we must modify. I wouldn't know what to do if I had a bike that I could just bolt something onto :) I'm ordering some for two friends also, one has a Vulcan 750, the other is a Vulcan 500. I see a Kuryakyn night in the future.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 08/24/04 at 06:51:57

Thanks for checking and sharing the information! You saved me from ordering the wrong part. On CruiserCustomizing I log in and then sort parts by what is supposed to fit the Savage. :P

I guess my mama was right when she said you can't believe everything you read. ::)

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 08/24/04 at 08:51:27

jendesigner wrote:

I see a Kuryakyn night in the future.

Sounds like a romantic evening ::)

Well, anyway, we know now.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 08/24/04 at 13:28:23

Hey Greg, Can you do me a favor and measure the circumference of your Kuryakyn grips when you get a chance? I would like to compare them to the stock ones. Am hoping they aren't too much larger...

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 08/24/04 at 13:55:47

Measured with a ruler, the chrome tube part is 1 1/2" in diameter. Measuring across the 2 sets of rubber cushions that stick out is 1 5/8", but they are hollow rubber that compresses nicely.

The stock grips are about 1 7/16".

Circumference? 1 1/2" x 3.14 = 4.71" and 1 7/16" x 3.14 = 4.51", so essentially the Kuryakyn grips are less than a 1/4" bigger around.

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 08/24/04 at 21:16:49

Thanks Greg. You rock the shade tree!

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by klx650sm2002 on 08/25/04 at 05:38:15

Nice one Greg.

Clive W :D

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 08/25/04 at 08:48:11

::) I just wish my keyboard had a key for "Pi".

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by gitarzan on 08/25/04 at 09:33:28

Mine does! p ;)

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by klx650sm2002 on 08/25/04 at 11:53:40

If I'm without calculator I use 22/7.

Clive W :D

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 08/25/04 at 14:12:06

klx650sm2002 wrote:

If I'm without calculator I use 22/7.

Clive W :D

If I'm without a calculator, I use 3 and just add "a little bit" more ::)

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Munson_kl279 on 08/31/04 at 14:02:07

Here is a link to the grips I just put on my Savage, so far they work great. They slipped right on and lined up perfect. Of cause they were made to go on the Savage.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2487145580&category=35580

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 08/31/04 at 14:33:15

Well, we can call this competition simply, "Get a grip" ::)

I don't know if I'd want a hard grip like that, but they look real nice. Add another custom look to our Savage bag.

Funny that I never heard of them before....BUT do you notice that it says they are for the Intruder and the Savage? That is what I've wondered all along. Does the Intruder have a "push/pull" cable setup? That would make the throttle tube the same, I bet. Just how many parts are interchangeable between the 2 bikes?

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 08/31/04 at 21:43:00

jendesigner wrote:

I'm ordering some for two friends also, one has a Vulcan 750, the other is a Vulcan 500. I see a Kuryakyn night in the future.

I had my Kuryakyn night tonight -- it went well. 8) My husband helped me on this project. I could have done it alone, but it was easier with two people and he was able to muscle the grips off intact -- I would probably have had to cut them. Here's what we did:

Got the Kuryakyn ISO Grips (#6240) and the ISO Throttle Boss (#6250).
Pried off the end cap of each grip with a screwdriver. Used screwdriver to lift up the ends of the left grip and sprayed silicone lubricant inside the grip to loosen the glue. Was then able to muscle the grip off without destroying it.
Cleaned the residual glue off the handlebar with a heat gun, a rag, and adhesive remover (there was quite a bit of glue).
On the right side, did not need to use the spray as the grip is resting on the throttle sleeve ridges. Was able to muscle the grip off intact. Then took off the remaining rubber and metal ring. Left the plastic throttle sleeve on the bike.
We then had to get rid of the raised ridges and rings on the plastic sleeve. The only ring we left was the one closest to the adjacent housing. We used a dremel tool with a sanding bit to smooth the plastic. It worked like a dream -- took less than 10 minutes to get the plastic ready.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Be smarter than me and cover as much of the bike as possible when sanding. I covered the tank, but the plastic dust/pieces went everywhere and I had to vacuum them up. Would have been very bad if the bike had been hot (think of little bits of plastic melting everywhere :o).
After cleaning up the bike and the grips, we then put them on (without glue) to decide on the correct position. On each side, we took two strips of masking tape, put one on the bike right by the grip and the other on the end of the grip near the bike. When I figured out exactly where I wanted the grips, we made two marks on the tape on the grip with corresponding marks on the tape on the bike. The idea was to make lining them up a cinch since others had mentioned that the glue dries super fast (instructions say this too).
Put glue on the bottom third of the handlebar and then slid the grip on. The glue moved all the way up with the grip. Used less glue on the second grip.
Installing the Throttle boss was simply a matter of taking 4 screws out, pulling off the end cap and trim piece on the grip, sliding in the Throttle boss, and putting 4 longer screws in (5 minutes tops).

Project took less than an hour including setup and cleanup. Hope this helps someone. As always, happy to answer questions.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 09/01/04 at 02:29:37

You did good. How do you like them?

How do you like the Throttle Boss?

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 09/01/04 at 12:01:46

Greg_650 wrote:

You did good. How do you like them?

How do you like the Throttle Boss?

Today is beautiful riding weather...just came in from a long ride. I have my own business and work out of my house so on days like to day I just succumb and go riding for a few hours. It doesn't really matter when I work as long as I get it done...

I LOVE the Throttle boss and the grips are cool too. The Throttle boss lets me hold pressure on the throttle while resting my throttle hand -- a great improvement. My teensy hands have been just aching after longer rides. The grips are great too. Much more comfy. For anyone who rides a mountain bike -- it is like the difference between riding a bike with suspension vs. one without. I am a happy camper today!

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 09/01/04 at 14:08:59

Just to make sure that I understand....does the Throttle Boss allow you to remove your hand from the throttle like the Vista Cruise Lock?

I had to modify my Vista Cruise to fit the larger Kuryakyn grips, but I think that the Throttle Boss looks better so I might like to get one.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 09/01/04 at 14:23:17

Greg_650 wrote:

Not sure how the Vista Cruise lock works but it sounds different. The Throttle Boss is not like cruise control. You can't set it and take your hand off for example. The Throttle Boss is just another way to throttle.

Basically it allows you to manage the throttle with the edge of your palm instead of your whole hand. What I like about it is that I can let go of the grip with my fingers (or wrap them loosely around the grip) and control the throttle by applying/releasing pressure with the edge of my palm.

Does that make sense? Is it the same or different with the Vista Cruise lock?

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 09/01/04 at 15:19:21

The Vista Cruise Lock is a spring loaded friction lock that when you flip the lever puts just enough pressure on the throttle to keep it for turning by itself. (I've seen others do the same thing by sticking something between the throotle grip anf the throttle housing.)

It isn't a real "lock" and I think that thought worries some people, but when it is ON, you can still turn it anyway. All you have to do is flip it with your thumb to turn it off. You can still take your hand off and use it for any important scratching or rearranging that you may need to do ::) I love it...this is my second bike with one.

This picture was taken to show a different place that I mounted the helmet lock (saddle bags were in the way), but it shows the Vista Cruise lock on the stock grips....

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/215/215131/folders/156030/1212905VistaCruise01web.jpg

PS - I have found 2 other places to put the helmet locks when saddle bags cover the original place.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 09/01/04 at 18:48:29

Sounds like the Throttle Boss wouldn't give you what you want. I like it but you can't take your hand completely off.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 09/02/04 at 02:32:03

Just curious because I know that some bigger bikes (a Victory, for sure) comes with a device that is an extension of the grip and acts like the Vista Cruise....and it looks like the Throttle Boss, too.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by jendesigner on 09/02/04 at 06:15:27

I got my grips yesterday and putting them on tonight. Greg, thanks for the helmeet lock idea. Where are the other two places you mentioned? I don't have one on my bike and I don't like leaving it unlocked so I carry a lock and chain but that would be easier. Thanks.

PS: I got the stilletto ends for my grips, should look great with my Z bars. Will post photos later.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 09/02/04 at 14:50:38

jendesigner wrote:

The best place that I found works great, but is useless if you have an engine guard (forward controls should be no problem).

Actually, I've gone full circle on this.... ::) I installed saddle bags so I moved it here by using one of the tapped holes for the reflectors (which I took off anyway). Then I installed the engine guard, but then a helmet wouldn't fit. So I moved it to the handlebar. Then I removed my saddle bags (gonna just throw them over the seat) so I moved it back again.

This one works good because the helmet hangs away from the engine, but it's shielded by the bike against light rain and sunshine when it's on the side stand. The other spot on the handlebar works okay, but the helmet will get rain in it upside down. A really good place would be out off the front forks, but I just haven't tried that yet.

To do this, you remove the reflector and drill a small hole for the guide pin on the back of the lock. Not too complex. To be safe, put the lock on your helmet and see if it will fit there.

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/215/215131/folders/156326/1214012Helmetlock03web.jpg

Got a good convex shot of me in there too :P

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by jendesigner on 09/07/04 at 06:15:14

OK, I got the grips on. I love them! Took longer than the "20 minutes" they have on the instructions. I put on the stilletto ends also, goes well with the Z bars and also the throttle boss. I put a link to my photo section on Yahoo.

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jendesigner/album?.tok=pherjNBB6Zmni94S&.dir=/4fb4&.src=ph

On to the next project!

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by jajke on 09/10/04 at 22:05:46

jendesigner wrote:

Jen,

I wasn't able to look at the picture (can't find file message).
Question: did you have to file/sand the groves and the rings in the plastic throtle sleeve?
I've just got my new grips, removed the old ones in about 10 minutes (I was lucky, not much glue), left one goes in easily, but the right one goes in up to the first ring and then gets stuck (also I left the chrome piece that came with the original grip just to see what it look like, should I not leave it in?)
Trying to get a picture to show you what it looks like.

Thanks!

Jaime

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by jajke on 09/10/04 at 22:13:39

jendesigner wrote:

Let's try this:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ajkej/detail?.dir=91e1&.dnm=fd85.jpg

You should be able to see the chrome ring (top left of the grip) covering the first ring, you can see part of the second ring and then the groves.

Jaime

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 09/11/04 at 02:48:08

What's the problem? Is the grip glued in that position?

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 09/11/04 at 06:37:28

jajke wrote:

...Question: did you have to file/sand the groves and the rings in the plastic throtle sleeve?
I've just got my new grips, removed the old ones in about 10 minutes (I was lucky, not much glue), left one goes in easily, but the right one goes in up to the first ring and then gets stuck (also I left the chrome piece that came with the original grip just to see what it look like, should I not leave it in?)...

Jaime -- See my detailed post above (posted 9/1) about what you need to do. You do have to take off the chrome ring and you do have to sand down the ridges and rings on the throttle sleeve. Susan

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by jajke on 09/11/04 at 20:00:32

Greg_650 wrote:

What's the problem? Is the grip glued in that position?

Greg,

Sorry forthe confusion. No, the grip is not glued in that position, I was just trying it before gluing and wasn't sure about keeping the chrome ring or not.
I ended up sanding off the groves/ridges, and the two rings before the ridges (going up from the bottom of the grip).
I re-read Susan's posting which gave me the answer I needed, also it was a great idea to use a Dremel tool, can't think of the times that little tool has come in handy.
I now have my new Kuryakyn grips (which look mighty nice) and have to stop spending so much money in accesories (at least for now :) )

Jaime

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Greg_650 on 09/12/04 at 02:34:25

jajke wrote:

Great. I'm glad that didn't happen or we'd have to start a new topic like "Removing Kuryakyn Grips" because I understand that the glue is a bear to remove :P

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Savage_Rob on 12/18/04 at 12:35:01

Well, I just got some of these beauties and I searched for this thread before installing them. I love them. They were quite easy to install and that adhesive is phenomenal stuff. I took Susan's advice and draped a dropcloth over the bike before doing any sanding of the ridges on the throttle tube. I'm quite sure that simplified cleanup a lot. Also, I was unable to locate my dremel so I just used a wood rasp to remove the ridges on the throttle tube. That actually worked very easily (maybe 7-8 minutes) and wound up with larger, less powdery filings to clean up than if I'd sanded them off. The rest went just like the instructions said. The entire thing probably took me 40 minutes including cleanup. The hardest part was removing the chrome plastic ring/band on the left side because it was glued on. The one on the right side came right off.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Susan on 12/19/04 at 17:50:54

I'm glad all the details were helpful. Aren't the grips great? I love mine. Couldn't imagine being without them! ;D

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Savage_Rob on 12/20/04 at 07:14:08

They are truly comfortable. I had a bit of a fright though. The next day my throttle was locked up completely. I had to twist it pretty hard to break it free but it turns normally now. The only remaining problem is that it doesn't snap back correctly on release. I think some of the glue probably made it between the end of the throttle tube and the bar. I intend to remove the end cap from the grip and see if I can clean anything up any better. I can't imagine actually trying to remove the grip now.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by howlit on 12/22/04 at 04:09:16

The grips look awesome and very comfortable. I think that I am going to have to add these to my christmas list, hopefully someone has some last minute shopping to do. :D I am also going to use this post when I install them.

Thanks for the information.

I am also looking at a set of side mirrors for the Handlebars.

Tim

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by gitarzan on 12/30/04 at 13:22:55

Would a 1" harley throttle tube work on the Savage? or is the part where the wire wraps going to cause a fitment issue?

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by gitarzan on 01/07/05 at 19:17:18

Bump...

Anyone know? I really wanna know. ???

I'm looking at these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4516497302&fromMakeTrack=true

Or new ones like them... 8)

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by thehoghunter on 01/08/05 at 05:03:59

It's possible that the throttle side would fit but it looks like the top one is suppose to go inside the left control box on the handlebar - not what you need. The left side should just slide upto the left control box - not go into it.

JCWhitney grips that work with stock throttle sleeve (http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/s-10101/p-2899/c-10111) 5 or 6 inch work (as long as it's for the 1 inch handlebar)

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by fsmidt on 09/28/07 at 15:11:35

a nice subject needs a fresh input.(last reply in 2005)

first of all

greg, you seriously must put youre photo`s back on the net ;)

plz give me some input about cruise control or throttle boss used on savage`s

and Kuryakyn grips is it the solution for sleeping hands?

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by islandwahine on 09/28/07 at 16:14:45

How do I know what grips I have?
The reason I ask is because I love them, but they getting pretty worn out and yucky. They are pretty thick, (can't wrap my hands around them) but that's why I like them! The foam is not really foam, but more like rubber even though it looks like foam (does that make sense?). All in all they are great.

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Trippah on 09/28/07 at 16:24:38

A quick computer question, a lot of phots are showing up as an empty box withthe little red x in upperleft hand corner. When I right click, chose the "show Picture" option, nothing happens..any ideas..thanks in advance.
Its getting to be playboy without the centerfold. >:(

Title: Re: Kuryakyn grips
Post by Strafford_Guy on 09/28/07 at 21:13:22

Trippah, The photos you are describing with the empty box and / or a red X have either been removed or the link is no longer valid.