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Message started by jbird on 08/12/04 at 16:31:37

Title: horses
Post by jbird on 08/12/04 at 16:31:37

someone tell me how much horsepower the savage has thanks

Title: Re: horses
Post by Kropatchek on 08/12/04 at 17:08:10

Normally 31 horses, but ther ara reduced power Savages that have 27 horses.
Greetz

Title: Re: horses
Post by klx650sm2002 on 08/13/04 at 09:17:02

24.6 bhp @ 5000 rpm
30.5 lb/ft @ 3700 rpm

Clive W

Title: Re: horses
Post by Greg_650 on 08/14/04 at 04:18:12

I know one guy that has done a dyno run and has nursed 32-33 bhp out of his with merely a carb change.

Title: Re: horses
Post by klx650sm2002 on 08/14/04 at 08:44:05

I have read, no snorkel + Raask pipe(+jetting I presume)=32bhp.
This gave 0-62 in 5.94 (std 8.1)

Title: Re: horses
Post by klx650sm2002 on 08/14/04 at 08:51:54

The horspower + torque figures were on post 625 of the be savage site and were posted by Greg 650 in a former life, I'm into that kind of thing. :(

Clive W

Title: Re: horses
Post by Greg_650 on 08/15/04 at 02:49:58

I installed the #160 main jet in the carb yesterday. At this point I don't know the effect of this change, because I only had time for a short ride to the car wash (I got busy doing other little things to the bike).

I also adjusted the air/fuel screw and found that 2 full turns from the bottom made the engine idle at the highest and smoothest speed.

Since you asked about access to the main jet, here is a photo....it's pretty easy.

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/215/215131/folders/156326/1187896MainJet01web.jpg

Title: Re: horses
Post by klx650sm2002 on 08/15/04 at 04:44:13

I think we have a misunderstanding, the info I needed was how accessible is the main AIR jet, not the main jet.
On the FCR it is external, you just need to remove the bellmouth (and all the bodywork!!).
Thanks in advance.
Clive W

Title: Re: horses
Post by Greg_650 on 08/15/04 at 05:02:54

Oops...and what's worse, is that it was early and I posted this photo in the wrong topic too :P Gee, now what do I do?

Anyway, there are 2 other jets...the pilot air jet and the pilot jet. The pilot air jet is accessed under the diaphram, and the pilot jet under the carb bowl. At the recommendation of the dealer (that's scary, isn't it?) I changed the pilot jet once to a larger size...not good. I still have that jet, if someone wants it :P I really think that I needed a smaller one like in the earlier Savages.

As for the pilot air jet, I pulled it out once, looked at it and put it back. Do you have a suggestion?

Title: Re: horses
Post by klx650sm2002 on 08/15/04 at 08:32:02

My FCR has a slow fuel jet, a fuel screw (on the engine side of carb) and a slow air screw (not a jet) on the filter side, there is a table that show how many turns out = what jet size.
The needle is a ocems, again there is a table telling you what the letters mean, seams pretty good though.
Then there is the main/main air jets. This started at 165 main 200 main air (main air is next to the slow air screw), I am now at 168/192 both going richer (doing that with the main air on these carbs is a bit of a no no but seems to work).
The 168 works right across the rev range at full throtle and the 192 richens things at high revs and full throtle.
The standard carb is a keihin CVK40 much like Your mikuni BS40 I presume, I had a dynojet kit on that but the FCR was much better even before I changed the jets.

Clive W :D

Title: Re: horses
Post by Mr 650 on 08/18/04 at 10:38:03

I looked at this last week, but just now got the entire photo.
There are several types of Mikuni main jets. I went to 4 closest dealers- Kawy, Yamaha, and Suzuki. The non-Suzuki deales said they could only guess at the jet, the dealer I bought the bike from was out of jets, and the new guy had the 150, not a 152. Anyway from the photo. looks like I got the right one- slotted round $1.75. thanks for the pic Greg.

Title: Re: horses
Post by Greg_650 on 08/19/04 at 02:44:37

Dealers are really ignorant sometimes....They should be able to order the jets from a catalog (as mine do). The carb is a Mikuni BS40 and oly takes one type jet...round and slotted. There are 2 size jets that fit too. One has a smaller slotted head but the threads and the orifice are the same and it works too.

Glad that it worked out for you.

Title: Re: horses
Post by Mr 650 on 08/19/04 at 20:40:05

The kid @ the new Kawy place said why should we keep our money tied up in jets @$8/ea. If elt like askin yeah how many you want @ 1/2 that price? I just left the punk there.

Title: Re: horses
Post by Greg_650 on 08/20/04 at 02:16:29

In the "old Days" a dealer kept bolts and stuff in boxes because customers actually did their own work on bikes. "Way back when" I remember digging through boxes at a dealership to find a particular bolt just for what I needed. It was kind of neat having that kind of relationship with a dealer. It also inspired dealer loyalty. Now they don't care. It's all about the dollar. Hell, I met a mechanic at my favorite dealership that said he didn't ride a bike. Go figure.

People tend not to do that anymore, and the biggest reason is that most bikes (and cars) aren't built for tinkering these days. You have to take it to someone....just take a look at crap like Orange County Choppers. People don't take the on the project (most don't :o) of chopping their bike anymore. They just buy it that way and then pose with it.

I'm done ;)