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Message started by Gregski on 06/02/04 at 09:59:43

Title: How do you break?
Post by Gregski on 06/02/04 at 09:59:43

How do you break?

When coming to a stop for example, do you step on the break while at the same time squeezing the front break [still in gear] then press in the clutch to down shift or find neutral.

OR

Do you press in the clutch to dis engage the gears first, then apply the breaks?

OR

Do you engage the breaks while simultaneously pressing in the clutch...

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by LondonThing-co-uk on 06/02/04 at 11:36:44

ALWAYS ALWAYS break when u want to come to a stop! Operating the gears and clutch u do at the same time,,,, think of them as seperate systems. i dont mean to be rude, but how long have you been riding? or have you just upgraded from a scoot?

ChrisF..

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by gitarzan on 06/02/04 at 19:59:44

Gregski,

If I am coming to a planned/anticipated stop, I usually downshift thru the gears until 1st or 2nd gear and then disengage the clutch and use the front disk brake to draw to a stop.

If I am stopping in an unanticipated or emrgency stop, I'll just pop the clutch and use the front and rear brakes in about a 70/30 ratio with the main effort being concentrated on the front brake.

If you are unsure of your braking abilities, or the bike's braking abilities, you ought to take it over to a empty parking lot or empty street and practice on it until you learn what the bike can and can't do for you.

It may save your life someday, by knowing how to brake hard and keep it up and straight.

Hang in there, and happy trails.

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=motorcycle+braking+technique&spell=1

How not to brake!!!
http://www.heise-workstations.de/ls650/fun/stoppie.mpeg

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by Gregski on 06/03/04 at 23:51:11

Chris F;

The intent of this post was to do a survey on how people come to a stop. I don't know how you got the idea that I don't know how to ride...

It was just my experience that if you ask half a dozen riders about walking you through the stopping process on a bike, they will give you six different answers, well I just think that NOT all six can be correct.

Over and out,
G

Title: :o :o[img][/img]Re: How do you break?
Post by AL_DOWN_UNDER on 06/04/04 at 12:48:22

GUYS I USALLY TRY AND STOP BEFORE I HIT ANY THING.AND I DONT CARE HOW I DO IT :

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by james may on 07/21/10 at 10:17:49

Before a turn usually light braking on front and rear no shifting or a downshift if on the edge of needing it. At a stop clutch in downshift and rear brake first then front to fully stop. Rear brake on the savage is alot weaker than on other bikes could deffinately use improvement. Other bikes I can skid out the rear tire like when riding those old reverse is brake pedal bikes. The savage the rear brake does almost nothing and front is more like 90% rather than 70% as on other vehicles. Would love a rear disc on future s40 models.

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by runwyrlph on 07/21/10 at 10:52:35

wow - who dug this up?

I think Gregski is a seasoned rider by now!

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by Nathan on 07/21/10 at 11:12:35

hahaha i just noticed that too. this is ancient!

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by Stimpy on 07/21/10 at 11:22:24

London is right, they are separate systems, one aids the other.

I don't even think about 'how' anymore, it's ALL pure instinct ALL
the time; mostly I front brake, sometimes w/clutch (for control)
and very rarely use rear, I kinda think of my rear brake as an
emergency-aid brake.

Hope this helps.

* also watch for oil, paint, gravel & wet metal lids on road when using
front brake and when coming to a stop DON"T DRAG YOUR FEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...and G, don't think, just listen, you can learn A LOT from everyone here, trust me.

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by verslagen1 on 07/21/10 at 11:36:32

When I break, Coffee and a donut. but sometimes a nap.

And I try not to break down, as it usually entails a walk.

But when I brake, I use everything available to me to stop.

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by Stimpy on 07/21/10 at 11:46:20

2004?! laugh out loud ;D

...so james, how exactly you found this jewel, bad brakes?

Over and out,
R

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by runwyrlph on 07/21/10 at 12:10:40

617265647B7670727926170 wrote:

When I break, Coffee and a donut. but sometimes a nap.

And I try not to break down, as it usually entails a walk.

But when I brake, I use everything available to me to stop.

;D

very punny!

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by james may on 07/21/10 at 13:17:31

Got bored of current events so started reading forum backwards. :)

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by Oldnewguy on 07/21/10 at 14:42:32

Doesn't he play hockey? ;D James May dug this up from 6 years ago!!
Man that's mining. ;D

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by ls650v on 07/22/10 at 17:43:38

James,
If you can't lock up the rear wheel on your bike then there is something wrong with it. I wouldn't call the rear brake weak.

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/22/10 at 20:25:18

I break for coffee, or a smoke.

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by kimchris1 on 07/22/10 at 20:40:22

I break as needed and as some others, use whatever methods I need to complete the job.. Kim ;)

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by JohnBoy on 07/23/10 at 16:30:49

I find that this bike doesn't turn over fast enough to get into too much trouble with engine braking, and dropping a gear or two will help get your speed down in a hurry. I always brake with the front first and add the rear "Gingerly". I find that you can lock the rear wheel on this bike going as slow as 25mph.
Things I learned the hard way!!! Don't shift into First in a turn! Don't shift into first in an attempt at engine braking. Both will result in a "highside" if you are not very quick or very lucky. I was neither :)

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by bill67 on 07/23/10 at 17:42:45

Both front and rear together all of the time.

Title: Re: How do you break?
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 07/23/10 at 18:11:29

I find that you can lock the rear wheel on this bike going as slow as 25mph

I got tired of how easy it is to lock up & modded the brake shoes down to about 1/2 the surface area in contact w/ the drum. Now I can modulate it & actually use it.